Is China about to invade Taiwan and who cares if it does?

Tucked in amidst the important news of the day, there was also this: China arms for war, as Quad fights back. But that’s a bit challenging and what difference does it make compared with everything that really matters? You know, about Brittany, and Meaghan and Kate.

But then, of course, there’s this as well: Do They Have Teenage Girls Running the Pentagon’s News Site Now? where you find:

It finishes with this:

A quick review of the defense.gov website doesn’t turn up similar political, poorly-written, teen-rage-style headlines. It may not represent a pattern in the Pentagon’s self-reporting style, at least not yet. But it may be the leader of a trend.

Maybe. Meantime, if you are looking for teen-rage-style, the Australian media is just the place to find it.

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53 Responses to Is China about to invade Taiwan and who cares if it does?

  1. MikeS says:

    Millennials may start to notice when the supply of smartphone chips crashes. Not sure that regular ChiComs can run the semiconductor business without buggering it.

  2. Rex Mango says:

    Don’t worry about China, Biden has confirmed the Pentagon is producing maternity flying suits for the USAF.

  3. PeteD says:

    Anyone valuing democracy, entrepreneurship and national self determination should care an awful lot about this.

    As do a few other regionally significant nations who would be unlikely to merely let the CCP expand their territory.

  4. Mullumhillbilly says:

    The Pentagon is steering teeny journals away from writing about things like this..
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/war-games-showed-us-would-lose-fast-against-china-if-it-invaded-taiwan-us-general

  5. Mullumhillbilly says:

    … journos

  6. Professor Fred Lenin says:

    The Chinese socialists must not be allowed to take Taiwan by force . Just look what the socialists Hitler and Stalin did when the West let Hitler take the Rhineland , Austria and Sudetenland , it encouraged the socialist Hitler to invade Poland and share it with his fellow socialist Stalin .
    The Chinese socialists have a complacent ally they bought in the Shite House bribes from the Chinese flooded the Swamp to ensure the USAwas impotent in the Taiwan invasion . I amsure Taiwan will not be easy beaten ,and Chinas neighbours will not be pleased and want to unite for self preservation ,interesting times we live in like the 1930s again

  7. Speedbox says:

    At present, I can’t see China actually invading Taiwan as the assault will result in a bloodbath of incredible proportions resulting in a global military response.

    To be clear, I doubt the CCP are particularly interested in the bloodshed per se but would be more concerned with the images relayed to the world that will galvanise governments into action. The immediate political and economic damage (not to mention the likely military defeat) will cast China back 100 years. And for what? To assimilate Taiwan back into China?

    I think China’s actions against Taiwan will be, relatively, more subtle and will ‘chip away’ at Taiwan’s political and economic foundations. Those actions could include increasing cyber attacks, daily (hourly?) military incursions into Taiwanese airspace and sea, assassination of political leaders, fermenting unrest using local Chinese assets, sea route blockades (stepping back at the last moment), banning Taiwanese commercial/goods flights to China, telling international carriers to make a choice – serve Taiwan or the mainland, but not both.

    There are many opportunities to ramp up pressure without resorting to a military assault. I think the Chinese will play a ‘long game’.

  8. Rex Anger says:

    @ Mullumhillbilly-

    In 1991, the US Army assumed it would be fighting the Red Army when it invaded Iraq.

    It assumed that Iraq had Soviet-level equipment (T-72Bs and better, not derated export-grade T-72M1s and more numerous Chinese T-55 clones), switched-on and competent Generals likenthe Red Army would have fielded against them in Central Europe, and competent and motivated troops.

    The result of that ground war was a 3-day drubbing, that even then could have been completed faster and in more detail had the US General Staff not been paralysed by caution and permitted its commanders to exploit the opportunities they found.

    In wargaming of this nature, it is often normal to vastly overestimate the enemy, while being scrupulously limiting of one’s own capacities. This may expose flaws in existing plans and equipment to be countered, or direct policy changes to resolve an identified shortfall in furture. They can also be used to present a case for some political barrow-pusher to promote their ideas and pet projects to the Higher Ups.

    They also make mighty good negative propaganda.

    China has been gifted a decade’s advancement (i.e. all currently proposed ship-building projects and missile modernisation, etc. are assumed complete), while the US has been likely been ‘unchanged.’

    Computer simulations only account for sheer numbers and placements. Not X factors that actually affect wars. Like the US Navy’s carrier groups being at sea, and not at Pearl Harbor on December 7th, 1941. Nor the salvage efforts that resurrected all bar 1 or 2 of the battleshios sunk there, refitted them and sent them out to batter Japan’s island fortresses down from 1943.

    They also do not account for the fact China has negligible amphibious force projection capacity (even across thebStraits of Taiwan), and has not effectively won a major land fight since Korea. In Vietnam in 1978, it raided and ran. Ditto over India. And 2 years ago, the Indians pounded them so hard up in the mountains, Chinese propaganda actually admitted to them ‘retreating,’ I.E. Running for Mummy.

    Don’t believe the brochures…

  9. Daily llama says:

    Wish I was as confident as you Rex. Hitler made it clear while in prison what he intended to do and did it. No one should have been surprised. Xi made it clear when he was made the new emperor he’d get Taiwan during his lifetime “should not be passed down from generation to generation”
    The Chinese (rightly) look upon the west as a feckless decaying culture. It won’t happen soon and hope I’m wrong, but I think catastrophe awaits

  10. Rex Anger says:

    And look where it got him, Spitter…

    Granted it could have been nipped in the bud far sooner, had Adolf not been enabled by an entire political class, agitating on one hand for stultifying decadence and pacifism, and on the other demanding the various species of ‘socialist’ nations step forward and claim their rights.

    Wind the clock forward 80 years and transpose a few names, and the situation is practically identical.

    Your hated Orangutan Bard, for all you know, may well be the Winston of this era…

  11. Judge Dredd says:

    It is likely that China will bide their time. They only need to wait until the US is; engaged in another useless war that it will lose, or the US armed forces deteriorate further, or the US goes into civil war. All of those things are likely to happen in the next decade, which means they only need to wait.
    There is no doubt that Taiwan will be a province of China in the next 10-15 years.

  12. Rex Anger says:

    It is likely that China will bide their time.

    And that tells you everything you need to know about the PLA.

    That it is only confident in its abilities when a neer-peer rival (or Coalition’s) back is turned, it does not have too far to go logistically and its target is far weaker than its own forces.

  13. Riversutra says:

    The only question is who will die in a ditch for Taiwan in the world as it is. If you actually asked Aussies if they would bleed in defence of Taiwan, well, goodbye Taiwan. In this modern world, the MSM will tell everyone to accept Taiwan was always a province of China and it’s nothing to do with them. Look ,over there, Harry and Meagan!!!!

  14. Wallace says:

    China has a long memory. She still remembers the Japanese invasion, particularly Chonchin and the massacre there.
    Power is the driving force, not economics or religion, just power.
    Look at Hong Kong, centralised power, Taiwan ditto.
    She can afford to lose one or million of the PLA and not notice it.
    It is all going to plan. The sphere of influence was the South China Sea with the six dash line, then expanded to the thirteen dash line, nearly completed.
    She has the infrastructure ready for action, transport and communication, and the hardware is nearly there.
    One problem may be if the Yanks turn off the GPS, remembering it was them that turned it on from military only, to commercial use in the first place.

  15. shatterzzz says:

    That it is only confident in its abilities when a neer-peer rival (or Coalition’s) back is turned, it does not have too far to go logistically and its target is far weaker than its own forces.

    Sounds like ideal tactics to win a war ……!

  16. shatterzzz says:

    Don’t worry about China, Biden has confirmed the Pentagon is producing maternity flying suits for the USAF.
    Not a flying expert but aren’t military plane cockpits, generally, on the tight side?

  17. Rex Anger says:

    Not a flying expert but aren’t military plane cockpits, generally, on the tight side?

    And they seem to have a strict ‘No Passengers’policy, too…

  18. Rex Anger says:

    That it is only confident in its abilities when a neer-peer rival (or Coalition’s) back is turned, it does not have too far to go logistically and its target is far weaker than its own forces.

    Sounds like ideal tactics to win a war ……!

    It worked for dealing with Poland in 1939…

  19. Ed Case says:

    The likely scenario is U.S. proxies start a bombing campaign in crowded areas, Mainlanders are blamed, the Government on Taiwan splits, and the Splitters invite America to “save” them from China.
    The U.S. will then invade Taiwan, and as the saying went:
    We hadda destroy the village to save it.

  20. Rex Anger says:

    Spack off Grigory.

  21. Perfidious Albino says:

    More likely the Quad meeting was disinformation from ‘Biden’ on the CCP’s behalf.

    Has there been any live footage from the virtual Quad released or just still images purporting to show ‘Biden’ in action?

  22. MikeS says:

    The only question is who will die in a ditch for Taiwan

    Not much chance of Taiwan going out of their way for Australia either. Hard to get Taiwanese suppliers to even return sales enquiries from Oz lately. Not interested in “low” volumes – they know Aussie manufacturing is a joke now too.

  23. Professor Fred Lenin says:

    The Chinese actually need to wait till their paedo puppet biden has been in longer ,the left are feminising thePentagon and armed forces , these corruptions take time ,the voter insurrection was only a couple of months ago . The Chinese bribes will be flowing in to the career swampies for the mid terms which they have to win to keep the swamp from draining and the geriatrics from losing their power . They have increased the retirement age for swampies to 10 years old ,none of them are quite that age yet but well on the way there .

  24. Texas Jack says:

    Rex Anger says:
    March 13, 2021 at 1:59 pm
    @ Mullumhillbilly-

    Don’t believe the brochures…

    Spot on, Rex. I’m not concerned about US military potential if cornered over Taiwan. I’m more worried about peacenik Democrats and a p*ss-weak president offering all sorts of incentives to bad agents that only end up emboldening them.

  25. Rockdoctor says:

    Having spent a few years of my life in Asia I agree with Speedbox as the economies of China, Taiwan & Japan are so intertwined a hot shooting war would be devastating but with a caveat. IMO it is unlikely but not impossible.

    Wallace above brings up some friction points that could turn into what Kissinger (? I believe) termed unknown knowns. James Kynge has an intriguing book China shakes the world that I found in Bangkok’s Suvarnabhumi Airport Bookazine outlet, it is a bit old but even then he notes the rise of Nationalism to keep the proles under control which in itself rose out of Tianamen Square. Also the younger cadre are apparently much more hawkish than their fathers. Couple that with any sleight whether intended or not you have a dangerous powderkeg. Lets hope there’s never a spark.

  26. Professor Fred Lenin says:

    Communists and socialists always use pariotism for their own ends ,look at Hitlers Herrenvolk ,and Stalins Great Patriotic War for Mother Russia , it seems people wont fight for Marxism . This war would not be like the Korean War , China has created an aspirational middle class since then ,working with capitalists, like Hitler so they didnt go the same way as the Soviet Union which didnt have capitalists .
    A lot of this war talk is probably to distract from the fall in revenue due to the pandemicthey released to weaken the West,like allsocialist plans the didnt think it through , actions without reactions is false thinking .

  27. Wallace says:

    It seems like we need to get used to the term ‘Indo-Pacific’.
    Not Asia Pacific, not SE China, etc.
    The Indians are on our side.
    That makes four of us. Yanks, Japan, Oz, and the Indians.
    Who else can we recruit.
    NZ?
    SriLanka?
    Singapore?
    Solomon Islands?
    Timor?
    Indonesia?

  28. Graham says:

    China will invade Taiwan during the Biden/Harris presidency. The opportunity is too great, America too weak for them to not seize the opportunity.

  29. incoherent rambler says:

    The wildcard is the frogs with their New Caledonia base.

  30. vicki says:

    Yep. Everyone obsessing about the challenge of a 3rd rate US actress to the British monarchy. Meanwhile, have been watching the determined programme of the latest Chinese emperor.

    Fascinating to see who has been on watch, who hasn’t been, and who is subtle (& not so subtle) in defending the Middle Kingdom from the nasty words of anti-Chinese Ozzies.

    I have been conducting a personal campaign to counter the decidedly pro-Chinese opinion pieces in the prominent rural paper, “The Land”. Three letters published (at least that is consistent), but still the garbage about how badly our government is treating China, and disadvantaging our farmers, continues. Never mind, the continuing purchase of our meat and wheat by the Chinese, and the replacement of barley purchases by the Saudis, Vietnamese etc etc. Indeed, this very newspaper constantly reports the healthy rural exports.

    After reading Clive Hamilton’s “Hidden Hand” – I am dubious about many of these Sinophiles. Indeed, if the Left is getting nervous about China, you know there is cause.

  31. incoherent rambler says:

    wot Graham said.

  32. Jannie says:

    Ok so it looks like Xi the leader of China still plans on taking Taiwan, but military intervention at the moment is too expensive. The US military still has some sting, it would be to the Taiwanese and US advantage if the CCP played their hand prematurely. The US military is not completely subverted and feminised, but in three or seven years time will be much easier to beat. So it makes sense for the Chinese to wait a while, they are getting stronger and their enemy is getting weaker.

    So, no invasion, not just yet anyway.

  33. caveman says:

    One word
    ‘Semiconductors.”

  34. Chris M says:

    China has a long memory. She still remembers the Japanese invasion…

    The memory is quite selective in the usual commo way, framed by nationalistic hubris. If it wasn’t for the USA and ANZAC forces China would still be Japan today. They don’t do appreciation and tend to overlook minor details like their own weakness.

  35. Dot says:

    We would be more interested if she made a complaint and signed a witness statement.

  36. chrism says:

    The CCP won’t invade Taiwan, they will gradually encircle it and control who comes and goes until Taiwan requests re-unification

    the west should get serious about dealing with the threat that the CCP poses
    they should publicise corruption and wealth in the CCP elite
    they should give the Taiwanese starter 300-500kW lasers technology & some nukes
    they should foster diaspora safety and facilitate criticism of CCP harsh treatment of its own people

    ultimately the battle is economic & the west is currently engaged in denying itself any economic future

    does the lab at Wuhan have any more tricks up its sleeve it can accidentally leak?

  37. Rex Anger says:

    Brittany? Things that matter? We shouldn’t be interested in the allegation of rape in the office of a minister? Qates has queer priorities but this seems really bent.

    EllenG is a Chinese shill confirmed.

    Distract from the important matters by gumming everybody’s ankles over a pretty victim with a lurid story…

  38. Entropy says:

    Dot says:
    March 13, 2021 at 9:22 pm
    We would be more interested if she made a complaint and signed a witness statement

    I have come to the conclusion Ms Higgins prefers the court of public opinion rather than justice.

  39. Scott Osmond says:

    I suspect that the attack on Taiwan will look more like a siege than a full blown invasion. Problem is that China needs the Taiwan semiconductor fabbers and trained workforce which might be destroyed in an invasion. Break the navy, reduce the airforce, stop any shipping coming or leaving and use diplomatic and proxies to keep others from coming to Taiwan’s aid. Signs that China is up to something is that they are stockpiling items which might be interrupted during a naval conflict. Waiting for the US military to weaken itself further with DIE might be tempting but a window of opertunity exists. Japan and other nations are increasing military budgets and after what the dems have done they may not hold much power after the midterms. 18 months to 3 years is my bid.

  40. Rex Anger says:

    I have come to the conclusion Ms Higgins prefers the court of public opinion rather than justice.

    Of course- Swift ‘Justice,’ very low Standard of Proof, guaranteed conviction, automatic life sentences for the accused and you can make up the Rules of Evidence as you go!

  41. Rex Anger says:

    18 months to 3 years is my bid.

    We shall watch this with interest.

    Battle of Britain redux.

    (Taiwan is within flying range of Japan. And certainly refuelling range of Hawaii and Guam)

  42. Chrism:

    does the lab at Wuhan have any more tricks up its sleeve it can accidentally leak?

    It looks like the Oinkerflu has turned up again.
    China does NOT want to see hunger in the provinces.

  43. Ed Case says:

    ***I have come to the conclusion Ms Higgins prefers the court of public opinion rather than justice.***
    You haven’t been keeping up.
    On Friday Reynolds publicly withdrew the “Lying Cow” remark of February 15, Apologised unreservedly, and paid a “sizable sum” in Damages out of her own pocket.
    The actual suspect is hiding out in a Psych Unit, and can’t be interviewed by the cops.

  44. Ed Case says:

    ***(Taiwan is within flying range of Japan. And certainly refuelling range of Hawaii and Guam)***
    Taiwan has never allowed U.S,. Bases or Troops on it’s soil.
    A wise decision.
    If the Yanks want a Taiwan War, they’re gonna hafta invade.

  45. Rex Anger says:

    Get your hand off it, Grigory.

  46. Lee says:

    If the Yanks want a Taiwan War, they’re gonna hafta invade.

    Why would they want a Taiwan war?
    What an idiotic comment.

  47. Bruce says:

    Taiwan was NOT “always” a Chinese province. It was not “always” predominantly “Han”.

    Those of us who have been there with our eyes and ears open will be aware of the substantial “minority” populations who have managed to retain some of their “old ways”. Sound familiar”

    However, the whole Han schtick of “all must pay tribute to the Emperor” is written in stone and backed up by force.

    Once “Chinese”, ALWAYS “Chinese”, REGARDLESS of where they roam and however many generations away from The Central / Pivotal Kingdom they have strayed. This appear to been the inspiration for that Magical Arab whose doctrine from on high says EXACTLY the same thing about those who follow him and the lands upon which they live.

    “Central / Pivotal Kingdom”? Yep! Look at the Chinese character for what is coyly translated as “middle” in the written name of the country. It REALLY symbolizes “Central / that around which all revolves”. It is to be seen on signs identifying the “CENTRAL Electricity Authority / Company” in Hong Kong, for starters.

  48. Tel says:

    If it wasn’t for the USA and ANZAC forces China would still be Japan today.

    If Japan had been careful and not invaded Pearl Harbor, they would have been allowed to keep they foothold in China.

  49. Rex Anger says:

    “Central / Pivotal Kingdom”? Yep! Look at the Chinese character for what is coyly translated as “middle” in the written name of the country. It REALLY symbolizes “Central / that around which all revolves”.

    Just a bit uppity, don’t you think?

  50. Publius says:

    gotta admire the left. they know how to make change stick. obama started this change in the military in his first term and its kept working away in the background. even with a republican potus!
    why doesn’t our side learn?
    #44 gave us ‘mad dog’ mattis and esper (remember him??)….both who publicly dressed down #44. also never happens with the left.
    barely 2months out from Jan 20 and there is nothing left anywhere to memorialise trump was ever president. not even his tweets left.
    what a waste of 4yrs.

  51. Rex Anger says:

    Uh-huh.

    Moby on, publius…

  52. Publius says:

    graham- you might be quite right.

    as to our response…interesting comments on this threat…though not sure protecting taiwan in and of itself is going to tip the balance to risk the lives of our soldiers. i wouldnt want anyone in my fam going to an early death to save taiwan. thats for sure. its gotta be way more visceral than that to get us involved.

    from what i can tell the taiwanese themselves seem pretty chilled. in their actions at least. with huge ‘JVs’ with chinese companies and investing billions in china. kinda strange…maybe go elsewhere in asia if they truly had an existential threat I would have thought.

  53. Mitch M. says:

    Bruce says:
    March 14, 2021 at 6:38 pm
    Taiwan was NOT “always” a Chinese province. It was not “always” predominantly “Han”.

    Those of us who have been there with our eyes and ears open will be aware of the substantial “minority” populations who have managed to retain some of their “old ways”. Sound familiar”

    There is a good movie about how the indigenous of Taiwan fought the Japanese. Warriors of the Rainbow.

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