Open Forum: April 3, 2021

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  1. JC says:

    Liz

    I’m not channeling anyone, maybe it’s your guilty conscience carrying that thought. I’m sure you’d both be very enjoyable company (to each other). 🙂

  2. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    Belgian Health Minister gets the vax.

    Weird. The plunger seemed down and a bubble of fluid leaked onto his arm.
    It’s as though there was a needle but it had detached and was left embedded.

    Strange, I do admit.

    And he’s still alive? You’d expect him to drop dead if the vax was real/sarc off

  3. JC says:

    Wrong Fred.

  4. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    I’m sure you’d both be very enjoyable company (to each other). 🙂

    Fate worse than death, JC. I didn’t think you had that degree of malevolence in ya.

  5. Knuckle Dragger says:

    ‘Jonah started telling everyone he’s white and then wrote a book about Norwegians that became part of State education curricula’

  6. Shy Ted says:

    No Lizzie, capped needle, plunger not depressed. Mobile phones should be banned. To save us.

  7. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    Three natural death, and one accidental.

    But a massive attempted coup, Occasional Cortex in high panic blocks away and this is the worst insurrection evah. National Guard (trusty ones only) called out, and eternal razor wire protection ensues. Right-o. Got that.

  8. Colonel Crispin Berka says:

    SM3

    Darn, so it’s nothing to do with Nazis? Ya sure? The Flight centre uniform is navy, but the toon-Dan’s uniform is gray like the 1936 Waffenrock.

    And no, I didn’t know any of that until I looked it up just now.
    And yes, since I have now searched Nazi terms on the Internet I am now on a list. Stoopid lists. Made once, never questioned.

  9. Shy Ted says:

    So glad I missed this. How far a certain former Foreign Minister has fallen. 2 episodes. Have to make sure I miss it again next week.

  10. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    Three natural death, and one accidental.

    If the needle was capped, what was the bubble of fluid? Just asking.

    It may well be that this was truly a false flag inoculation, with the health minister running scared.

    Mobile phones are a two-edge sword. Can be good and bad. Depends.

  11. Old School Conservative says:

    JC says:
    April 8, 2021 at 9:37 am
    From what I’m gathering about that idiot son of the sugar cane farmer (Lex Greensill), he wasn’t running an invoice factoring business.

    I’d add that the invoice factoring business was a clever cover for dodgy lending practices.
    And, until his world came crashing down, Lex was very smart.
    Perhaps he was smart enough to put some aside for a rainy day.

  12. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    argh, that blockquote was meant to be about the capped needle.

  13. Dr Faustus says:

    Improvised explosives, extremist material found as two men arrested in Adelaide

    Two men have been arrested for having explosives, weapons and extremist material in Adelaide.
    Police say the arrests were part of an investigation into ideologically motivated violent extremism.

    Garage Nasties? Most likely I would have thought.
    Or Vax Denialists with a Facebook presence?
    Possibly misogynists, or rope apologists.

    Just as well we may never need to know.

  14. Old School Conservative says:

    I am now on a list

    So are all Cat readers, posters, and commentators because of our association with you via pixels.
    (only a slight exaggeration but the future holds this for us)

  15. JC says:

    I don’t , it’s just you being all school marmish.

    But back the point, the Rones has made that very same comment or with minute variations for a past decade. We know he hates aboriginals, but why the need to remind us a few times a day?

    Lastly, I don’t see how I’m being malevolent by suggesting you’d get on like a house on fire. Should have I suggested you wouldn’t? 🙂

  16. Roger says:

    …ideologically motivated violent extremism.

    So it wasn’t mental illness motivated violent extremism then.

  17. johanna says:

    Those ‘everyday Victorians’ sound like Q&A’s famous ‘balanced’ audiences.

    Does anyone really believe that all those tradies we see driving around in trucks and 4WD variants are going to switch to electric cars? In the next decade?

    It is difficult to comprehend how detached from reality the would-be banners of ICEs are. A product with less than 1% market share is allegedly going to become 100%, in a decade or two, because The Planet.

    Petty details like what effect this would have in the real world are glossed over, including the hole that would be blasted in tax revenue without petroleum products, plus the massive cost of subsidising the changeover.

    Effect on the already struggling electricity grid? Gaia will provide.

    Destruction of hundreds of thousands of jobs in the petroleum/service station industries? It’s all in a good cause.

    These politicians can waffle away to their hearts’ content, but when the cold breath of reality via angry voters starts to blow down their necks, they will scatter like the cockroaches they are.

    As you may guess, I don’t share Arky’s pessimism about the future of the ICE. I can see a possible role for hybrids, but electric cars are an old, failed technology and that is not going to change anytime soon.

  18. Infidel Tiger says:

    *Walter Bloomberg
    @DeItaone
    · 5h
    – CANADIAN PROVINCE OF ONTARIO ANNOUNCES 4 WEEK STAY-AT-HOME ORDER FROM THURSDAY, TO CLOSE ALL RETAIL EXCEPT GROCERY AND PHARMACY -PREMIER

    You can see why folk are willing to take an unnecessary trial medicine if it stops this totalitarian hell.

  19. Top Ender says:

    Personally, I want Zulu to go on the road, stopping throughout the far parts of Oz, and having Cat gatherings beside the road next to his very expensive caravan he’d need to buy for the trip.

    Scotch could and should be liberally dispensed. Lizzie can stump up some cash to help out.

    It’s only fair.

  20. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    Electric vehicle enthusiasts like Taylors Lakes resident Chris Vanderstock hope the ideas, especially the proposed ban on new combustion engine vehicle sales, will be taken seriously.
    “If we just have policymakers, politicians and governments giving us that guidance, then I think people will actually make that jump and get on board sooner,” he said.

    This is how totalitarians are made.

    A ‘ban’ is simply ‘guidance’. Lord help us.

  21. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    Scotch could and should be liberally dispensed. Lizzie can stump up some cash to help out.

    I’m in for a bottle or two.

    I could fly to Perth and hire a car.

    I am not into investing in caravans though. 🙂

  22. Roger says:

    This is how totalitarians are made.

    A lot of them about lately.

  23. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    I am now on a list

    So are all Cat readers, posters, and commentators because of our association with you via pixels.
    (only a slight exaggeration but the future holds this for us)

    Contact tracing. They’ve been practicing it.

  24. Colonel Crispin Berka says:

    because of our association

    Yes, correct. It’s a snowball effect. Just highlights the dangers of lists being made without understanding the reality or the plausibility of alternative intentions and interpretations.

    But I was just trying to understand a political cartoon published in the Australian!
    “Da. Zat is exactly vat a Nazi collaborator would say. GULAG!”

    Can I also point out, as gently as I can, OSC, that you are kind of painting a big target on yourself with your political affiliation etched into your user name like that. You pretty much put yourself onto that list. I merely moved you up a notch. 😀

  25. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    I don’t think this lady is doing it entirely correctly somehow.

    Best-Selling Devotional Has Prayer to ‘Help Me to Hate White People’ (7 Apr)

    in the book, A Rhythm of Prayer: A Collection of Meditations for Renewal, there is a prayer called “Prayer of a Weary Black Woman” that asks God to “help me to hate white people.”

    The book, published in February, was a New York Times bestseller.

    The offending prayer was written by Chanequa Walker-Barnes, Ph.D. According to her bio, she is a “theologian and psychologist” and “her mission is to serve as a catalyst for healing, justice, and reconciliation.”

    As you can see in the above screenshots, the whole prayer is a hateful screed against white people, and even specifically calls out “Fox News-loving, Trump-supporting voters.”

    Not entirely sure how you get “healing, justice, and reconciliation” out of hating one particular demographic. Nor how it squares with Galatians 3:26-28 and Matthew 5:43-45. But I suppose if you are a lefty you can say anything you like.

  26. Dr Faustus says:

    From Cardi’s Oz piece:

    Researchers try to avoid being dragged into controversial theories that have put forward, but they say the findings open debate about the suitability of climate models and the relationship between incoming cosmic rays and clouds and precipitation over our oceans.

    An understatement’s understatement.

    Research into the historical record connecting variations in ENSO (and other ocean cycles) with climate variations was shitcanned with extreme prejudice 15-20 years ago because it annoyed the CO2 modellers.

    The NOAA kiddies doing this research know they will be off the ‘climate science’ Christmas card list.

  27. areff says:

    Re the GECH (great electric car hoax), there was a wanker purporting to represent the clean energy future on 3AW about half an hour ago. Everything he said and claimed was, at the very least, disputable and most was outright lies.

    Fair enough. Green shills have their jobs to do and lies are part of it.

    But the problem here and elsewhere is the compere, Tony Jones (not the ABC one) and others like him, who accepted as a starting premise that EVs are desirable and practical.

    One of many questions that weren’t asked: How do you safely descended a steep, muddy, slippery track without the benefit of engine-braking ?

  28. Roger says:

    Not entirely sure how you get “healing, justice, and reconciliation” out of hating one particular demographic.

    I suggest that “healing, justice and reconciliation” don’t mean what you think they mean, Bruce.

    The totalitarian Left has form in this regard.

  29. dover_beach says:

    You can see why folk are willing to take an unnecessary trial medicine if it stops this totalitarian hell.

    I’m sure they are using actual and potential lockdowns as motivation to take the vaccines. It’s sinister.

  30. Roger says:

    One of many questions that weren’t asked: How do you safely descended a steep, muddy, slippery track without the benefit of engine-braking ?

    Not a problem. Off-road driving will be banned.

  31. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    the massive cost of subsidising the changeover

    And when skint governments drop the subsidy the amazingly amazing happens!

    Germany’s Windexit…Old Wind Turbines Dismantled Without Replacement…Looming “Massive Power Outage”? (7 Apr)

    The German government loves to talk about the importance of green energies, but when it comes to their expansion, it is in fact doing the opposite: Old wind turbines are being removed without being replaced by new generation turbines.

    NDR featured the dismantling of three wind turbines in Altenstedt (Lower Saxony) after having been in operation for 20 years. “They are no longer profitable to operate” after the expiry of the 2o years of guaranteed feed-in tariffs to their operators.

    Last year, only 200 new wind turbines were built. At the current rate, more turbine capacity will be coming offline than what is being added.

    Prof. Volker Quaschning, expert on green energies, says that the dismantling of wind (and PV) plants, spurred on by the expiry of subsidies, sets back the energy turnaround by years. “If you look back, 20 years ago more was built than what we see today. There is a danger that at some point we will end up with zero new construction, or even a net reduction. – Then we won’t need to talk about climate protection in Germany any more.”

    Yet German voters are paying about 50c/kWh for electricity and the wind and solar people still can’t make themselves profitable.

  32. will says:

    feelthebern says:
    April 8, 2021 at 9:20 am
    The Oz has a great column by Adam Creighton regarding the rate with which Australia’s debt has exploded.

    please feel free to copy and paste

  33. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “Mater says:
    April 8, 2021 at 8:00 am”

    Thank you Mater.

  34. Top Ender says:

    Man of Steel!

    Warrant Officer Diver Terry Settle, expert in mine clearance – obituary

    Lauded for his coolness under pressure, he carried out lifesaving work across the globe, from the Gulf of Suez to the Mediterranean

    By Telegraph Obituaries

    Warrant Officer Diver Terry Settle, who has died aged 76, was one of Britain’s most highly decorated postwar clearance divers.

    In September 1984 Settle led a team of divers, part of an international effort known as Operation Harling, to investigate after a score of ships were mysteriously damaged by mines thought to have been laid by the Libyan ruler Muammar Gaddafi in the Gulf of Suez.

    There, the minehunter Gavinton found a strange object in 23 fathoms at the exit of the Suez Canal. Despite poor underwater visibility, Settle carefully photographed and measured the mine-like object, which was clean but half-buried, nose-down in mud.
    Using airbags Settle, aware that any fuse might contain a hydrostat, towed the mine into shallower water. Surmising that this was a new type of Soviet mine, and after borrowing the correct-sized Soviet spanner from the Egyptian navy, Settle succeeded in disassembling the detonator and primer and steaming out 600 kg of explosive.
    For his remarkable courage, dedication and professionalism shown over several days, Settle was awarded the Queen’s Medal for Gallantry.

    The following year, in February in the Persian Gulf, the supertanker Fellowship L was hit by an Iraqi air-launched, French-supplied, Exocet missile, which failed to explode. Asked if he could be ready in three weeks to investigate, Settle answered, “Twelve hours max”, and he and his team flew by commercial airliner to Dubai.

    The missile had hit six feet above the waterline in the forward tank, which contained 25,000 tons of crude oil. The manufacturers declined to share the render-safe procedure, so, after the oil had been pumped out, Settle deduced from first principles how best to deal with the missile, which lay, with its warhead and some of its fuel still intact, 100 feet down at the bottom of the tank.

    In the heat and fumes, he had the Exocet lifted on to the deck and put his know-how to work: asked by an assistant: “What happens if it blows up?” he replied: “Don’t worry, you and I won’t know about it”. Eventually the remains of the Exocet were taken out into deep water and dumped.

    That same year, Settle’s Fleet Clearance Diving Team was sent to Malta to clear Grand Harbour of wartime ordnance. British forces had been banished from the island by the prime minister Dom Mintoff but, working incognito, Settle and his divers removed tons of small arms, munitions and bombs, and cut up wrecks on the seabed despite thick mud, zero visibility, numerous seabed obstructions and the constant danger of unexploded ordnance.

    During an operation to remove four live torpedoes, Settle closed the harbour, something that not even the Germans had managed in wartime. Mintoff became a regular visitor to view Settle’s progress.

    Settle was appointed MBE.

    Terence Settle was born on February 2 1945 in Epping, Essex, where his mother had been evacuated from Tottenham: his father was a naval diver who had helped clear the Suez Canal in 1942/43 and was subsequently cox’un of Landing Ship Tank 421 at Sicily, Salerno, Anzio and Normandy. Young Settle was educated at Chase Lane primary and Sidney Burnell secondary modern but “was only ever going to join the Navy”.

    He joined as a Boy Seaman in 1960. A car accident in Hong Kong threatened to end his career, but he recovered and took part in the Konfrontasi in the frigate Berwick, and in the withdrawal from Aden in the frigate Ajax.

    In a 25-year career as diver, besides his awards for major explosive ordnance disposal, Settle was three times awarded the Commander-in-Chief’s commendations for his bravery and expertise, and in 1980 the BEM.

    Before retiring from the Navy in 1995, Settle was an instructor at the Defence Explosive Ordnance Disposal School, and served six months on loan service with the Qatari Defence Forces. He founded Settle For Safety, a health and safety consultancy, and supported the Vernon Monument, recently installed at Gunwharf Quays, Portsmouth, honouring those involved in mine warfare, diving, and bomb and mine disposal.

    He is remembered equally for his cool head as for his inspirational leadership. In 1973 Settle married Margaret “Mags” Ainslie Clark, who survives him with their two sons.
    Terry Settle, born February 2 1945, died March 2 2021

  35. Snoopy says:

    Not a problem. Off-road driving will be banned.

    Genius. Think of the savings from not having off-road capable military vehicles.

  36. lotocoti says:

    …ideologically motivated violent extremism.

    Those garage nasties are weak sisters compared to the tankies
    and their AntiFa foot soldiers.
    Who are untouchable, because they don’t just LARP violent extremism.

  37. Roger says:

    Think of the savings from not having off-road capable military vehicles.

    The army will get a pass if they install solar panels on their Bushmasters.

  38. feelthebern says:

    Working capital financing for those with no working capital if you know what I mean

    Yes, JC.
    & Softbank lapped it up.
    As did CS.
    Insanity.

  39. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “But I suppose if you are a lefty you can say anything you like.”

    Correct…..and if you’re a lefty you can behave anyway you like.

  40. feelthebern says:

    & the Oz has a good column on how David Cameron is rightfully getting slammed in the UK, but Julie Bishop has not in Australia.

  41. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    I get on well with most people, JC.

  42. feelthebern says:

    Two good columns in the Oz in a single day.
    It’s been months since one could say that.
    PS, I got 3 out of 10 in their quiz today.

  43. Top Ender says:

    How do you safely descend a steep, muddy, slippery track without the benefit of engine-braking ?

    A very long snatch ‘n’ strap?

  44. feelthebern says:

    Will, here’s the Adam Creighton post.

    Australia leads world with $590bn Covid debt spike

    Australia’s public debt is on track to rise by more than any other developed nation over the three years to 2022, according to the International Monetary Fund’s latest global debt outlook that weighs the impact of a combined US$16 trillion ($20.9 trillion) in pandemic budget support.

    Australia’s combined state and federal government debts are expected to rise from the equivalent of 47.5 per cent of GDP in 2019 to 77 per cent of GDP in 2022, a bigger increase as a share of national output than any of the 35 major developed nations the IMF tracks.

    For Australia, with an annual GDP of about $2 trillion, a 29.5 per cent rise equates to about $590 billion.

    “Average public debt worldwide reached an unprecedented 97 per cent of GDP in 2020 and is projected to stabilise at around 99 per cent of GDP in 2021,” the IMF said in its latest Fiscal Monitor, calling on governments to consider increased wealth, property and make income tax more progressive to stabilise budgets into the future.

    “COVID-19 recovery contributions and ‘excess’ corporate profits taxes could be considered,” it added, in comments echoing calls by US Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen for a global minimum corporate tax rate.

    The number of advanced nations with a lower public debt burden than Australia is forecast to rise from 13 in 2019 to 18 in 2022, leaving it behind Scandinavian nations, Ireland, and Germany, for example.

    Treasurer Josh Frydenberg said the IMF report reaffirms that Australia entered this crisis from “a position of strength having returned the Budget to balance for the first time in 11 years and debt levels less than half that of the average of all advanced economies”.

    “Our actions have helped keep businesses in business and Australians in jobs through $251 billion in direct economic support,” he said.

    “We’re seeing the impact of that today, with the IMF’s new growth forecast of 4.5 per cent for Australia in 2021 confirming our economy is recovering from the crisis faster and stronger than previously expected.

    “Our spending commitments have been targeted and proportionate, appreciating that every dollar spent is a dollar borrowed.

    “While the Government’s borrowing requirements have significantly increased since the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic, the projections of debt as a share of the economy remain manageable.

    “The MYEFO showed that we expect net debt to peak at 43 per cent of GDP which is still less than half that of the average across major advanced economies today.

    “Having outperformed all major advanced economies on the economic front in the last 12 months, there is no other country you would rather be in than Australia.”

    The latest Fiscal Monitor, released at 8am Wednesday Washington DC time, found public debt rose the least over the three-year period in Norway (up 1 percentage point) Switzerland (4) and Sweden (5), and the most, apart from Australia, in the US (24) and Canada (26).

    IMF fiscal affairs department head Vitor Gaspar said the increased debt among advanced nations was “much larger than the historical norm for business cycle fluctuations [but] appropriate because COVID-19 is a health emergency”.

    While increases in debt were largest in advanced nations, the IMF warned the impact of the pandemic would fall disproportionately on poor nations, exacerbating global inequality. It estimated 95 million extra people in poor countries fell into extreme poverty last year.

    “Vaccine access is also deeply iniquitous with high-income countries, with 16 per cent of the world’s population, having pre-purchased 50 per cent of the doses,” the IMF said this week in its World Economic Outlook.

    Total per person income losses during the pandemic, compared with what was expected before the crisis, were almost twice as large, at 20 per cent, in poorer countries than they were in rich countries.

    “Once the health crisis is over, policy efforts can focus more on building resilient, inclusive, and greener economies, both to bolster the recovery and to raise potential output,” said IMF chief economist Gita Gopinath.

    The IMF, which dubbed 2020 “the Great Lockdown”, said global carbon dioxide emissions fell 4 per cent in 2020 because of the economic contraction and they would need to fall by the same proportion every year for the next 30 years to lower global emissions 80 per cent by 2050.

    “Without immediate and co-ordinated global policy action, emissions will rise again as the pandemic passes and output rises, and countries with the least capacity to absorb the costs of adaptation — small states and low-income countries — will suffer most,” Ms Gopinath said.

    “Because the crisis has accelerated the transformative forces of digitalisation and automation, many of the jobs lost are unlikely to return, requiring worker reallocation across sectors — which itself often comes with severe earnings penalties,” she added.

    The IMF lauded governments’ response to the coronavirus, suggesting the economic collapse would have been “about three times as large had it not been for the swift policy support worldwide”. “The COVID-19 recession is likely to leave smaller scars than the 2008 global financial crisis,” it said.

  45. feelthebern says:

    Geez, it’s long.

  46. Diogenes says:

    Not a problem. Off-road driving will be banned.

    Fact check – true.

    All National Parks will be closed to the public, AFTER all the State Forests & Recreation Areas are declared National Parks.

    I wonder how the Firies would feel, sheltering on a massive pile of lithium batteries when a firefront passes over them.

  47. Infidel Tiger says:

    Will, here’s the Adam Creighton post.

    Australia leads world with $590bn Covid debt spike

    Imagine what will happen when the first wave gets here.

  48. Lysander says:

    in the book, A Rhythm of Prayer: A Collection of Meditations for Renewal, there is a prayer called “Prayer of a Weary Black Woman” that asks God to “help me to hate white people.”

    What is white? There are various shades from Celtic white (as Billy Connolly calls “so white you’re blue” through to Spanish white (which is so tanned you’re brown)…? And what would Michael Jackson or Stan Grant qualify as?

  49. Lysander says:

    Sorry, I think I worked it out myself: Transwhite?

  50. Leigh Lowe says:

    JC says:

    April 8, 2021 at 9:37 am

    Bern

    From what I’m gathering about that idiot son of the sugar cane farmer (Lex Greensill), hewasn’t running an invoice factoring business. He was operating a very high risk lending operation for shonky operators unable to get finance from regular sources

    Exactly. At least factoring is lending against a third party debtor backed by an arms length sales transaction.
    Greensill was lending against all working capital (which just encourages the client to build inefficient levels of inventory to generate loan cash or, worse, just fudge their working capital numbers to get cash).
    But it gets worse.
    Then he started lending against future sales, up to three years forward.
    FMD.

    The only upside is, he was a cane farmer.
    At least he wasn’t a banana-farma.

  51. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Man of Steel!

    Great obit TE.

    RiP WO Settle. He’d be a popular man today with the current black ops war on tankers and other ships.

    On stories like WO Settle’s here’s one I saw last week:

    WW1 brigadier single-handedly held up Germans for 2 hours so troops could withdraw (3 Apr)

    Brigadier General Gerald Hunt single-handedly held up the Germans for two hours so his troops could withdraw. He ignored repeated calls from his men and Battalion HQ to fall back – and kept the enemy at bay until he was shot in the head by a sniper.

    Bgd Hunt’s soldiers demanded he receive the Victoria Cross – the highest award for bravery – as they “knew of no greater acts of heroism” than his.

    Instead, the 40-year-old’s death near Manancourt, France, on March 23, 1918 earned him a Distinguished Service Order for “devotion to duty”.

    The citation reveals Bgd Hunt’s remarkable gallantry took place during the opening skirmishes of the German Spring Offensive. Under rifle and machine gun fire, he held the line while directing his men and other units to buy them time.

    Boer War veteran Bgd Hunt already had a chest full of medals and they are expected to fetch upwards of £8,000 on Wednesday through Spink & Son in London.

    Few general officers would lay their lives down for their men at the sharpest of sharp ends like Brig. Hunt. I hope his medals found an appreciative home.

  52. Nick says:

    Imagine what will happen when the first wave gets here.

    Facilitated by our quisling class, Australian Universities

  53. calli says:

    A Rhythm of Prayer: A Collection of Meditations for Renewal, there is a prayer called “Prayer of a Weary Black Woman” that asks God to “help me to hate white people.”

    That’s just common, garden variety evil.

    How unimaginative these race baiters are.

  54. Leigh Lowe says:

    But the problem here and elsewhere is the compere, Tony Jones (not the ABC one) and others like him, who accepted as a starting premise that EVs are desirable and practical.

    Yes.
    Extremely cheap to run.
    I can go 400 kms on $8.00 worth of charge.
    Which I could comfortably do on petrol if it was tax free.

  55. Bar Beach Swimmer says:

    Broelman, Bok, Cross & Payne, today.
    Thank you,Tom.

  56. thefrollickingmole says:

    Once the health crisis is over, policy efforts can focus more on building resilient, inclusive, and greener economies, both to bolster the recovery and to raise potential output,” said IMF chief economist Gita Gopinath.

    All 3 of those terms are Woo and effectively retrograde in the economic sense.

    resilient = Appeases Gaia by not doing something “usustainable”
    inclusive = “White” nations are too rich and must be punished.
    greener = The spice must flow (spice being other peoples money)

  57. Shy Ted says:

    I’m not going to watch the next Bond movie.
    Q has become C. Which seems to be inverse. I shudder to think what they’ll name the evil villain or the love interest

  58. Mother Lode says:

    Tragedy for me – the NBN is out. Not a suburb wide outage apparently but apparently rather more narrow.

    So I am having to use my mobile as a hotspot to work – and ponder The Cat.

    My provider (TPG) tells me it could take at least 24 hours to resolve because it is not just them involved but they must work with NBNCo.

    24 hours! Unthinkable in 2021!

    If it was the days of Telecom then 24 hours would be how long it took them to get your information right and only then would they get around to asking what the problem was.

  59. feelthebern says:

    It only took 18 months, but the ABC has apologised to Jacinta Price.

  60. Bons says:

    Well done Morrisson you total moron.
    No more women hires for my little outfit and the cas will be encouraged out to be replaced by men.
    Admittedly, we have avoided young female permanents for some time

  61. Speedbox says:

    I wonder how the Firies would feel, sheltering on a massive pile of lithium batteries when a firefront passes over them.

    I know I shouldn’t have (‘cos it’s a serious subject), but that comment made me laugh out loud.

  62. Bons says:

    As a PS, we video interviews and give a copy to the applicant on advice from our IR moocher.

  63. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “feelthebern says:
    April 8, 2021 at 11:19 am
    It only took 18 months, but the ABC has apologised to Jacinta Price.”

    Yet when Mike (pour the gin) Carlton took umbrage at the ABC for referring on Insiders a few weeks ago to his putrid Q&A “strangulation” tweet of two years ago directed against Nicolle Flint, they quickly apologised to Carlton despite the fact that he did indeed tweet it.

  64. Dr Faustus says:

    Australia leads world with $590bn Covid debt spike

    Spent without a plan other than ‘Something Will Turn Up’. And now looking like the plan won’t be a National vaccination and herd immunity strategy.

    The Government has quietly moved the ‘strategy’ goalposts from ‘prevention’ to ‘harm minimisation’:

    New information from the United Kingdom for example, shows that both these vaccines significantly reduce severe COVID-19 in older adults.

    This adds to the growing evidence that shows both the Pfizer and AstraZeneca vaccines are working and are highly effective in protecting people against severe illness, hospitalisation and death.

    That is the aim of Australia’s vaccination strategy and people can be confident in either vaccine.

    Given this limited public health goal – minimising impact of the WuPox on the elderly – it’s hard to see any valid policy reason why there should be any compulsion on younger cohorts to be jabbed.

    Or how Australia is going to climb out of its lockdown debt pit.

  65. jo says:

    feelthebern says:
    April 8, 2021 at 10:43 am
    & the Oz has a good column on how David Cameron is rightfully getting slammed in the UK, but Julie Bishop has not in Australia.

    Slamming the stick insect? no thanks.

  66. Boambee John says:

    dover_beach says:
    April 8, 2021 at 9:46 am
    Reports are that Chauvin trial today even worse for prosecution than yesterday. Going to get crazy in some places. The media will hold the blame. Scum.

    At this stage, BLM is probably beginning to see the “justice” that a good Lynching would provide.

    That’s sarcasm munty, you bloated fascist fool.

  67. Top Ender says:

    The ABC and Ms Price reached a confidential, out-of-court settlement.

    When contacted, Ms Price would not say if she had been paid any financial compensation as part of that settlement.

    “The proceedings have settled on confidential terms and the parties are otherwise happy with the outcomes,” she said.

    NT News but paywalled probably

  68. Farmer Gez says:

    The Trans Tasman handicap has already hit a hurdle as a positive swab from a NZ gelding comes before the chief steward.

    Why the long face in the land of the long white cloud?

  69. feelthebern says:

    Alexander Downer can go get fucked.

  70. incoherent rambler says:

    Alexander Downer can go get fucked.

    Not without a pair of fishnets!

  71. thefrollickingmole says:

    Im likely to be stuck (haha) with getting a wu-flu jab as a health care worker & as a MSIC card holder (marine worker).

    I really dont want it

  72. The Barking Toad says:

    The proceedings have settled on confidential terms and the parties are otherwise happy with the outcomes,” she said.

    I read that as meaning she got a decent sling – good on her!

  73. Mother Lode says:

    and governments would offer generous subsidies to encourage drivers to trade in petrol-guzzling cars in favour of low or zero emission vehicles.

    Considering where subsidies come from, it would be more correct to say:

    and governments would take large sums of money from taxpayers with the warning that they will only get it back if they do as they are told and trade in petrol-driven cars in favour of less practical low or zero emission vehicles.

  74. Colonel Crispin Berka says:

    areff,

    How do you safely descended a steep, muddy, slippery track without the benefit of engine-braking ?

    The motor that drives the car forward with torque can provide torque to slow the descent. It is totally irrelevant whether the torque comes from electromagnetic repulsion or a piston crank.
    In the Jaguar I-Pace this is part of a feature called the “hill descent scanner”.
    In the Tesla vehicles there is no specific hill descent feature and taking them offroad is not recommended, but it still behaves this way when the cruise control is enabled.
    Features of electric vehicles which make hill descent control possible are:
    • Electric motors have more torque at slow speed, which is the opposite to an ICE that doesn’t hit peak torque until the revs are fairly high.
    • EVs can do their own version of “engine braking” in the form of regenerative braking, which may not be enough to stop the vehicle at slow speeds but requires the same electrics and control system that would enable slow hill descent. It’s the same functionality, it’s just whether the manufacturer enables it to work at slow speeds not just cruise. ASTERISK. The catch with EVs is that the regenerative braking charges the battery, so the battery has to be less than full and it also has to be at a temperature that enables charging, which is an issue for Teslas in cold weather.
    • EVs have no gear shift, so the perils of misjudging a hill and having to down shift gears part way (losing momentarily any advantage of engine braking) is eliminated.

    If your tyres slip on the road it does not matter what engine you have because it has no traction for braking at that point. A light car could lose grip first and spin the tyres and dig itself in, like this snow example. I guess the higher mass of the ICE may be beneficial in descent since the higher weight makes more grip for the same contact area. (But in absence of that friction the two vehicles accelerate downwards at the same rate regardless of their mass.) Better tyres or snow chains will help more than a different propulsion mechanism in that scenario.

  75. thefrollickingmole says:

    If they are running EV trucks/ Jumbos etc underground then you can bet assisted braking probably isnt an issue.

    Theres no doubt EVs have advanced a lot, off the backs of massive subsidy and government preferences.
    Im seeing the cost factor of setting up a countrywide charging capability as a show stopper at the moment.

  76. Mother Lode says:

    It only took 18 months, but the ABC has apologised to Jacinta Price.

    They are perhaps feeling a little sheepish and vulnerable right now.

    Were it not for a certain civil case they would not have apologised at all.

  77. Bar Beach Swimmer says:

    In Honour of the By-Election for The Upper Hunter

    Coal, glorious coal
    We won’t be denied it
    It’s good for our soul
    Black gold, we will mine it

    Here, up in the valley’s mines
    All pollies have sold out
    Wind turbines and solar glass
    Intermittent blowouts,

    Coal, glorious coal,
    China still buys it
    They send it back here
    In many appliance

    What no more emissions mean
    Is power is failing
    What business and workers do-
    It will not be to coding!
    Oh Coal, magical coal,
    wonderful coal, marvellous coal!

  78. Leigh Lowe says:

    On Chris Lilley and Jonah.
    How about:-

    “Jonah lost his job for quoting a passage out of the Bible, got a yuuuge wrongful dismissal payout and is now playing rugby in France”.

  79. Lysander says:

    I guess the real reason why Nilligan got the Press Freedom Medal is reporting like hers frees more people from the press?

  80. Carpe Jugulum says:

    MSIC card holder (marine worker).

    You need a card to work marine? TF.

    I checked AMSA, i can have NC1 (lolgf), WDO and Station B assigned.

    Thats ridiculous

  81. notafan says:

    According to Osman Faruqi Chris Lillie material is for the consumption of the ‘lower middle class’*.

    No wonder Twitter’s hair is on fire.

    * what’s wrong with that?

  82. sfw says:

    I can’t see anyone who lives more than an hour from a city accepting electric cars etc. You couldn’t make Melbourne to Adelaide on a single charge, who wants to hang around Kaniva for 5 or 6 hours while it charges? Sydney would be an overnight trip. The infrastructure problems are well documented and very expensive.

    Trucks, trucks that do only local deliveries may work however the extra weight of all the batteries will reduce payloads significantly. How are the interstaters going to use a truck that could take many hours to charge, if there were charging stations that could handle the massive current at suitable distances from each city, you would need many hundreds maybe thousands as no truck operator wants his very expensive truck idle for any longer than necessary, most truckies stop for their long rest around 8 hours then back on the road for another 12 to 14 hours of work. Lining up for hours or days to charge his truck enroute to wherever is going to raise freight costs by orders of magnitude.

  83. Tom says:

    Don’t fly United Airlines – it’s too dangerous. UA has stopped hiring America’s best pilots on merit and is now giving preference to women and blacks.
    Tucker Carlson Tonight.

    #SuicidalHR

  84. notafan says:

    I didn’t find the Jonah character a teensy bit funny and wondered why that blackface was acceptable at the ABC until of course it wasn’t when Jonah went back to Tonga and the NZers got toey.

    Lillie does a great job of caricaturing certain types, including his own self.
    Long may he continue.

  85. JC says:

    Infidel Tiger says:
    April 8, 2021 at 10:52 am
    Will, here’s the Adam Creighton post.

    Australia leads world with $590bn Covid debt spike

    Imagine what will happen when the first wave gets here.

    I suspect pols around the world have figured out that high debt is a problem that shows its face 20 years later with higher taxes (someone said something similar at WSJ).

    What they left out though is my thinking. I think we’re in a new monetary regime with CBS running much weaker monetary policy and crunch time can only occur with monetary policy mismanagement. From now on we’re going to see loser monetary policy even when they tighten.

  86. feelthebern says:

    Looser or loser JC?
    Are you channelling the Trump-god?

  87. sfw says:

    Lilley didn’t make me laugh, his humour was a little too vicious for me. Mr Gormsby is the best, incredibly funny and cutting. I don’t know if Lilley has seen Gormsby but if he does he should be embarrassed by his own poor job at humour, Lilley’s concepts weren’t bad but poorly executed.

  88. feelthebern says:

    I loved it when Trump used to say “That’s loser talk”.

  89. thefrollickingmole says:

    Carpe Jugulum says:
    April 8, 2021 at 12:22 pm
    MSIC card holder (marine worker).

    You need a card to work marine? TF.

    Part of the war on terriers Carpe, its basically a police check on steroids which gets you issued a card allowing you to access a designated port or shipping area.
    Aimed at big ports not the Crayfishermen or long liner mobs (yet).

    $400+ for a 4 year card.
    https://www.msic.net.au/

  90. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    Summer Heights High is still one of the funniest and best ever Australian TV shows. ‘We can be Heroes’, which preceded it, was also pretty funny, reflecting on the time when genuinely ordinary people could become Australian of the Year and some of the nongs who applied. There was always though a kind sort of gentleness in Lillie’s approach, in both of these shows. You never ended up hating anyone.

    Chris Lillie hasn’t done much of worth since, but his masterpiece in SHH hit exactly the right note about Australian education in the early years of this new millennium. There wasn’t a character that struck a wrong note anywhere. They were all alive and working in or attending a school just down the road from anywhere in urban Australia.

  91. dover_beach says:

    I see Tucker again bashed the Arkansas Gov senseless. Oh my, the scalps he is collecting. He pointed out that Wal-Mart family supported the veto on the grounds of some limited government and individual opportunity guff. Strange game these mega corps are playing; they are cultivating a deep and abiding hatred of their ilk.

  92. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    Lilley didn’t make me laugh, his humour was a little too vicious for me.

    Gosh, how we differ. Mr. Gormsby wasn’t even half as good.

  93. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    Australia leads world with $590bn Covid debt spike

    Imagine what will happen when the first wave gets here.

    Yes. One could be seriously worried about that if Covid wasn’t such a real squib at killing people across the board. If or when we get a proper dose of Covid, strongly attenuated in population terms by vaccination, we will have to face that this thing has a death rate (same as influenza) and put up with it like the rest of the world has. It was never bad enough to warrant the long-term border closures, international and local, that it produced, nor the excessive payouts to keep people employed that these lockdowns necessitated. Because Australia has gone for an impossible eradication, we have simply put off the evil day when we have to face some level of Covid prevalence.

    If we got a truly serious virus anytime soon then there wouldn’t be enough money in the till to cope with it, certainly not in the way that we have ‘coped’ with Covid.

  94. Knuckle Dragger says:

    Trying to work an angle for a black-lipped NZ pavlova monster Raelene Castle slash Jonah from Tonga quip.

    I may be gone for some time.

  95. JC says:

    Whoops

    Looser

  96. Cardimona says:

    Just re-learned a valuable lesson.
    When cutting 200 x 75 x 5 RHS steel, and you’ve just taken your riggers gloves off, it’s important to remember which are the hot ends when moving the offcuts.
    Fvcken owwie!!!

  97. Geriatric Mayfly says:

    Don’t fly United Airlines – it’s too dangerous. UA has stopped hiring America’s best pilots on merit and is now giving preference to women and blacks.

    Word of advice on my first trip to Africa. Get off unless you see a white elbow in the cockpit. This in the day when cockpit doors were left wide open.

  98. Leigh Lowe says:

    What is RHS steel?
    Is that something you send the apprentice to get?
    “Get us three lengths of RHS steel and four lengths of LHS steel, son.”

  99. incoherent rambler says:

    More safety tips.

    Cardi. When cutting steel and you detect the smell of burning flesh. It is probably your own.

  100. Pedro the Loafer says:

    It would be interesting to know how many commercial airline pilots are ex military.

    Better training than some dodgy flying school operating on a shoestring budget.

  101. Eyrie says:

    Part of the war on terriers Carpe, its basically a police check on steroids which gets you issued a card allowing you to access a designated port or shipping area.
    Aimed at big ports not the Crayfishermen or long liner mobs (yet).
    $400+ for a 4 year card.
    https://www.msic.net.au/

    There’s an ASIC for aviation. Even private pilots need it for going to “security controlled” airports which means any where there is an airline service even though the general aviation areas are usually some distance from the airline area. $250 for 2 years. In the US you just need a photo ID of some kind like a driver’s licence.
    Australia – doing everything several degrees harder and fucking it up.

  102. thefrollickingmole says:

    Instapundit has that delightful ladies “prayer” for whites to FOAD.

    ..In the book, A Rhythm of Prayer: A Collection of Meditations for Renewal, there is a prayer called “Prayer of a Weary Black Woman” that asks God to “help me to hate white people.”

    Dear God,

    Please help me to hate white people. Or at least to want to hate them. At least, I want to stop caring about them, individually and collectively. I want to stop caring about their misguided, racist souls, to stop believing that they can be better, that they can stop being racist.

    Probably sounds better in the original.
    Shouted
    To a stadium.

    Bitte helfen Sie mir, weiße Menschen zu hassen. Oder zumindest, um sie hassen zu wollen. Zumindest möchte ich aufhören, mich individuell und gemeinsam um sie zu kümmern. Ich möchte aufhören, mich um ihre fehlgeleiteten, rassistischen Seelen zu kümmern, aufhören zu glauben, dass sie besser sein können, dass sie aufhören können, rassistisch zu sein.

  103. My provider (TPG) tells me it could take at least 24 hours to resolve because it is not just them involved but they must work with NBNCo.

    24 hours! Unthinkable in 2021!

    If it was the days of Telecom then 24 hours would be how long it took them to get your information right and only then would they get around to asking what the problem was.

    Half your luck Mother Lode.
    Recently the world’s greatest telecommunications firm dropped my internet out for more than a week.
    They were not able to provide any alternative service.
    All incoming emails during this time were deleted, with the sender having no idea we did not receive them.

    The damage (in dollars) this will have done to my busines, in the age of internet bookings, would be difficult to measure.

    They didn’t fix it either, it was done by a gig worker who was able to log in remotely & over several hours texting me instructions, between us we got it back up.

    Then the world’s greatest telecommunications firm (through an unrelated blunder) cut off my business email for several days.
    Once again fixed only through the intervention of a 3rd party contractor.
    & once again, all incoming emails for that period have gone to God.

    Thanks, Malcolm Turnbull.

  104. Fair Shake says:

    RHS : rectangle hollow section

  105. max says:

    and after borrowing the correct-sized Soviet spanner from the Egyptian navy,

    Hahaha, love that small detail. A shifter wouldn’t do it.

  106. H B Bear says:

    What is RHS steel?

    Rolled hollow steel, basically square tube. Please leave your man card on the desk on your way out.

  107. Infidel Tiger King says:

    Lilley’s Mr G character reminded me of half the teachers I have ever known.

  108. thefrollickingmole says:

    From my old apprenticeship failure days..

    More safety tips. (only the first was mine, a couple of times)

    If you are welding and your arm is hot and people are yelling at you its probably on fire.

    Dont cool down the ladle with water and drop it back into the pot of molten lead.

    You cant heat up a cast iron stove and belt parts back into shape with a sledgehammer.

  109. dover_beach says:

    Strange game these mega corps are playing; they are cultivating a deep and abiding hatred of their ilk.

    It’s worth reminding people here that the mega corporations were also central in suffocating any attempt to audit the votes after Nov 3. The TIME article is clear on this; they pressured legislatures and governors to nix any attempt to conduct meaningful audits under the guise of ‘fortifying’ the election.

  110. JC says:

    Infidel Tiger King says:
    April 8, 2021 at 1:26 pm
    https://twitter.com/jazz_zzaj_/status/485897647317086208/photo/1

    Hahaha!

    Wow, looks like some pretty decent Rocks of Gibraltar. Respect!

  111. calli says:

    Good grief, mole! Reading that, I can distinctly hear that unique, crazed voice bellowing into the mic.

    The power of words.

  112. Speedbox says:

    Regarding EVs, I thought it was time for an update…..

    Over time, forced by legislation, new ICE passenger vehicles will be progressively banned. This is a sample of current legislation in various countries:

    Britain – ban on all new new petrol and diesel cars and vans from 2030;
    USA – (California) ban on sale of new petrol passenger cars and trucks from 2035;
    Canada – (Quebec) ban on sale of new petrol passenger cars from 2035;
    France – ban on sale from 2040;
    Germany – from 2035;
    Ireland – from 2035;
    Israel – from 2030;
    Scotland – from 2032;
    Taiwan – from 2035.
    Norway – end sales of all fossil fuel-powered cars from 2025;
    Japan – is considering a ban from 2035 but not yet confirmed;
    Korea – considering a ban but govt thinks 2035 too soon. May be 2040 but that depends on industry consultations.

    Note that the EU’s Euro 7 emission standards come into effect in 2025 which is effectively tightening the garrote by a notch to the ICE. Even worse, the EU has declared that ICEs must produce a fuel efficiency of 36km/l (yep, about 90mpg in the old language) from 2030. As a response, and not surprisingly, those manufacturers who wish to sell into the European market (and elsewhere) are promptly moving away from the ICE.

    Ford – no new European ICE car sales by 2030;
    GM – from 2035 (GM brand not currently on sale in Europe, will return with EVs);
    Audi – recently announced no further ‘development’ of ICEs for Europe;
    Volvo – 100% electric cars by 2030, no ICE in lineup (global);
    Daimler Benz – currently 2039 but under review to reduce to 2035;
    Volkswagen – by 2030, no ICE in lineup (global).
    BMW – (unconfirmed) 2035;
    Hyundai – no later than 2040.

    Is the ICE dying? Yes and no. It will survive for a very long time into the future (especially in transport, equipment, mining etc in diesel format) but the ICE passenger car will effectively die out via legislation within twenty years from now. (There are reams of data on the number of EVs to be produced by every car manufacturer over the coming decade. Hundreds of models and variants).

    At the end of the day, you really won’t have much choice.

    Separately and as an aside, I doubt that our government will offer much in the way of tax concessions to get us into EVs. Why should they? The availability of new ICE passenger cars will diminish to unicorn status so you will be compelled to pay the going rate if you want a new car.

    Remember that we still have the Luxury Car Tax which was implemented in 2000 to ‘protect’ the Australian car industry. That tax currently raises about $640m per annum for government coffers and although we don’t have a car industry, we still have the tax.

  113. Infidel Tiger King says:

    Strange game these mega corps are playing; they are cultivating a deep and abiding hatred of their ilk.

    All the pressure is coming from activist pension funds.

    I have been warning you for near on a decade that the greatest evil we face is corporatism.

  114. The ABC and Ms Price reached a confidential, out-of-court settlement.
    When contacted, Ms Price would not say if she had been paid any financial compensation as part of that settlement.
    “The proceedings have settled on confidential terms and the parties are otherwise happy with the outcomes,” she said.

    Is there anybody who does not translate that as: Shedloads of cash changed hands.

  115. Infidel Tiger King says:

    Arky will like this. I read the other day that there is a huge crime wave in the US of catalytic converters being stolen from cars for the platinum.

  116. jupes says:

    Is there anybody who does not translate that as: Shedloads of cash changed hands.

    As if the ABC give a shit. Not their money.

  117. notafan says:

    Those bans can change.

    Perhaps there will be a political party that campaigns on such a platform.

  118. Tintarella di Luna says:

    In the Oz

    ABC issues apology to Jacinta Price for ‘hurt and distress’ over ‘defamatory’ speaking tour broadcast
    SOPHIE ELSWORTH
    MEDIA WRITER

    2 HOURS AGO APRIL 8, 2021
    The ABC has apologised to Alice Springs deputy mayor Jacinta Price for airing multiple radio segments that accused her of spreading “racist vitriol” and “hate speech”.

    Subsequent court action taken by Ms Price against the public broadcaster has also been settled between the parties.

    ABC Coffs Coast and ABC Alice Springs both aired radio segments on 11 September 2019 that included reactions to a speaking tour Ms Price conducted in Coffs Harbour in NSW.

    In the apology the public broadcaster included the damage caused by using information from a media release issued by the Coffs Harbour and District Local Aboriginal Land Council.

    “The ABC understands that the Land Council has withdrawn and apologised to Ms Price for statements contained in the media release which it accepts were false and defamatory, and which caused hurt and distress to Ms Price and her family,” the apology said.

    “The ABC did not endorse the opinions contained in the media release and apologises to Ms Price and her family for the hurt and distress caused by broadcasting those views.”

    Ms Price is a Warlpiri/Celtic woman and took legal action against ABC over the report that included nine local Aboriginal organisations to convince Coffs Harbour City Council to cancel her speaking tour, Mind The Gap.

    She toured Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney and was booked to speak at Coffs Harbour but the local council wrote to her saying she must first seek permission from the local Aboriginal community to enter their land.

    It was understood the Harbour City Council never imposed such requirements on anyone else to speak in their shire, however she did proceed with her speaking engagement.

    Ms Price, who launched the defamation proceedings in September last year, settled her claim against the Coffs Harbour and Districts Local Aboriginal Land Council in November and just last week settled her dispute with the ABC.

    Ms Price told The Australian she was “happy” with the settlement but could not disclose any details.

    In a statement of claim filed in December, Ms Price said the public broadcaster defamed her in many ways including that she “spreads racist vitriol” and “vilifies and ridicules Aboriginal people and cultures”.

  119. Fat Tony says:

    RHS = Rectangular Hollow Section
    SHS = Square Hollow Section
    CHS = Circular Hollow Section

    preferably to AS/NZS1163 in various grades/strengths etc

  120. feelthebern says:

    She toured Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney and was booked to speak at Coffs Harbour but the local council wrote to her saying she must first seek permission from the local Aboriginal community to enter their land.

    How many people at the council lost their jobs because of this?

  121. notafan says:

    None

  122. thefrollickingmole says:

    Promises, promises.
    Yet another prediction od DOOOOOM! for the property market.

    Last kick of the can’: Property market reckoning coming

    Though I found this bit a missed clue.

    As a community, Australians decided to use this increasingly cheap money to buy property rather than invest in other pursuits.

    No shit Sherlock, the government instigates a year long “we will have intercourse with your business with a napalm coated pineapple with swarf topping for a year” on top of its usual “conform” legislation designed to strangle businesses in the cradle and wonders “why are people not more innovative and agile”?

  123. notafan says:

    All long as the defamation costs come out of existing budget I say better spent than on most abc programming.

  124. So how/where does RSJ get its name?

  125. Geriatric Mayfly says:

    “The ABC did not endorse the opinions contained in the media release …

    Of course not. Only in retrospect.

  126. jo says:

    Pedro the Loafer says:
    April 8, 2021 at 1:19 pm
    It would be interesting to know how many commercial airline pilots are ex military.

    Better training than some dodgy flying school operating on a shoestring budget.

    When I was going to Fremantle Marine College, in coastal nav the guy who sat behind me used to miss every second class. We are working out a problem. He had a Dalton pattern calculator( 2 bits of plastic). Tutor was really pissed off about him missing classes, anyway he sees this thing and sez to the guy “I know what that is”. Oh you’ve done a bit of flying. Yeah I’ve got my private pilots licence. Oh good. Tutor sez ” what do you fly”? 747 to Sydney every Friday night. Clunk, tutor picks jaw off floor. Came out of the RAAF. What did you fly there. F111’s. Clunk.

  127. mindfree says:

    Test – just had Windows reloaded

  128. jupes says: April 8, 2021 at 1:36 pm
    As if the ABC give a shit. Not their money.

    Quite so.
    It won’t even be enough to mean they’ve gotta make one of their valued ‘talent’ will have to flatline on $450,000 for a couple of years.

    They can’t underpay any more set decorators or roadies, & having a blue with the holder of a victim card (Coconut/Aunty Tom though she may be) means the Pig won’t get cut (Peppa, you’re safe this time)

    Their travel budget wallet is prolly bursting at the seams, due to the past year of being grounded instead of flitting off to Euro art soirees & the like.

  129. calli says:

    Rolled steel joist?

  130. Speedbox says:

    notafan says:
    April 8, 2021 at 1:40 pm

    Those bans can change.

    hahahahahajajajahhaha

    I love that optimism Nota. I wrote this a couple of years ago and it still relevant today:

    For the manufacturers, we should acknowledge that they have not committed billions of dollars and embarked on the wholesale change in their vehicle line-up simply out of social conscience. This path is being followed in the sure and certain knowledge that all national Governments will mandate the transition to EV’s. The quid pro quo for the manufacturers is that virtually every passenger car on the planet will have to be replaced. A sales bonanza rivalling the introduction of the Model T Ford in the early 1900’s.

    Of course, there will be some transition difficulties and poorer nations will struggle to achieve any meaningful transition by say 2040, meaning some small-scale ICE manufacturers may be temporarily necessary to fill the void left by the major manufacturers. However, by 2050, virtually every ICE passenger vehicle will be banished from our global roads due to no new replacement stock (for many years previously) and existing ICE cars have worn out. Note that the Paris Agreement requirement for net zero CO2 by 2050 plays a role in this issue as it will be difficult for any modern nation to achieve net zero with ICE passenger vehicles on their roads.

    From an entrepreneurial perspective, the transition provides vast opportunities. A tsunami of change is approaching and even those who are risk adverse should see the potential of being directly involved or may choose to engage via the share market. Those who recognise the global shift and invest early will likely secure a ‘ground floor’ position that can produce very strong returns. A bit like buying Coca Cola shares in the 1920s.

    In any case, you can be certain that the fundamental decision to shift to EV’s has been made by global entities (as voted and agreed in the UN) and national governments will adopt and transition over the coming decade(s). Your opinion on the merits of that change was not required and thus it was not sought by either the UN or the respective national governments.

    The vast sums of money preclude any change. Remember: always follow the money.

  131. Carpe Jugulum says:

    Frollicking Mole

    Part of the war on terriers Carpe, its basically a police check on steroids which gets you issued a card allowing you to access a designated port or shipping area.
    Aimed at big ports not the Crayfishermen or long liner mobs (yet).

    Thats ridiculous, i can work in a marine (Civil) area with a 40 metre mothership, two 10 metre boats a barge based piling rig and 4 LUBS in pacific rim, PNG, Solomons out to Western Samoa and you don’t need sh!t apart from your international licence.

    Incredible

  132. thefrollickingmole says:

    In the apology the public broadcaster included the damage caused by using information from a media release issued by the Coffs Harbour and District Local Aboriginal Land Council.

    This could be interesting though.
    Their ABCcess has always used 3rd party statements to avoid responsibility for what are sometimes outright lies or fabrications.

    The use of Mr Rintouls statements on anything to do with refugee issues being a case in point. It doesnt matter how often he was wrong, lying or outright fabricating stuff their ABccess still used him to disseminate the most outlandish stories.

    If they are now being held as liable, and enough people hit back it will be quite crippling for their editorializing as news department.

  133. KC says:

    RSJ = Rolled steel joist. Sometimes colloquially called “I beams” because of the shape of the cross section.

  134. feelthebern says:

    RHS = Rectangular Hollow Section
    SHS = Square Hollow Section
    CHS = Circular Hollow Section

    Do they all melt in aviation fuel?

  135. Fat Tony says:

    calli says:
    April 8, 2021 at 1:55 pm
    Rolled steel joist?

    Calli (our honorary bloke) scores again!!

    We don’t normally use the term RSJ here – we have Universal Beams (UB), Universal Columns, Parallel Flange Channel (PFC) etc.

  136. Rolled Steel Joist … fits the acronym, & I suppose sorta (well, pretty much) describes the function.

    Never have I heard anybody call it an eye-beam. Never.

  137. jo says:

    RSJ Rigid Steel Joist. Shaped like an I

  138. Thanks VBM Fat Tony, now I’ve got more confusions than I began with.

  139. Carpe Jugulum says:

    Tintarella di Luna says:
    April 8, 2021 at 1:40 pm

    In the Oz

    I wonder what the local land council had to pay?

    Granted it was probably taxpayer dollars via grants.

  140. chrism says:

    the rolling electoral fraud issue in the US and A …

    Powell interviewed – many excellent points – almost all the opposite of words from our own esteemed writers for daily newspapers here in good old oz such as Greg Whatsisname

    https://rumble.com/vfgpsv-rose-tennent-sidney-powell-interview.html?mc_cid=b645b821e5&mc_eid=71f7be1ce7

  141. Fat Tony says:

    feelthebern says:
    April 8, 2021 at 1:59 pm
    RHS = Rectangular Hollow Section
    SHS = Square Hollow Section
    CHS = Circular Hollow Section
    Do they all melt in aviation fuel?

    No but they do soften and lose their structural integrity fairly quickly.

    In the 1970s, I remember reading about a paint factory, that used large laminated timber beams for its roof, having a major fire – the timber beams slowly charred and kept their strength until the fire was put out. In the same circumstances, a steel roof frame would have failed.

  142. jo says:

    I was wrong.

  143. Bar Beach Swimmer says:

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/04/07/asa-hutchinsons-trans-bill-veto-draws-scrutiny-over-special-interests-influence/

    “But we’re trying to send the signal that you can protect conscience, you can protect girls in sports, without being discriminatory, and trying to say, ‘we’re not diverse and tolerant of different lifestyles.’ That’s important for us, as a state, and what we have to achieve as a nation,” he continued

    That use of language to cover for what is or should be unpalatable in any normal society. To most people it is an abuse of the language but for a cause to advance all is needed is the “right” groups to get on board.

    I’ve just started Keith Windschuttle’s book – The Persecution of George Pell. The first chapter is entitled George Pell versus the S3xual Liberation Movement, which provides a good précis of the changing attitudes to s3x that began in the 1960s & 70s.

    What is interesting is how the town criers of what became the man-boy or intergenerational sex “liberation” front recalibrated the language to make their sexual predilections palatable to society.

    As an example Windschuttle quotes Andrew Landsdown’s 1984 book: Blatant and Proud: H0m0s3xuals on the Offensive.

    Writes Windschuttle: ‘…Landsdown described the political tactics that paed0ph1les used to gain support for their cause. Rather than advocate the rights of adults to have s3x with children, Landsdown observed, they found it more politically rewarding to advocate the right of children to have s3x with adults. This turns pa3doph1lia into an issue of ‘the s3xual rights of children’, who are portrayed as an oppressed minority group.

    This means that pa3d0philes are no longer seen simply as people who exploit children s3xually, but as those with a noble concern for, and a special insight into, the needs of children. They can thereby position themselves as the true friends of children, in opposition to the common opponents of children’s rights, their parents.’

    Times change but motives don’t- we’re seeing the same grotesque positioning in the trans space of gender reassignment for children, which have been dressed up under the diversity and inclusion banner.

    The bottom line is it’s an assault on the rights both of children to be rightly cared for and protected and parents to provide that care and protection of their children.

  144. Fat Tony says:

    jo says:
    April 8, 2021 at 2:01 pm
    RSJ Rigid Steel Joist. Shaped like an I

    The Universal Beam UB is shaped like an I – a 250UB is 248mm deep x 124mm wide (lightest version)

    The Universal Column UC is also I-shaped but more square – a 250UC is 254mm deep x 254mm wide (lightest version)

    Put simply, a UC is used like a post, whereas a UB is used like a rafter.

  145. Mother Lode says:

    Ms Price is a Warlpiri/Celtic woman

    Are they saying that all those activists who proclaim themselves to be ‘proud Warlpiri’ and ‘proud Ngarinjin’ and ‘proud Bilingara’ people are pure bloods?

    Well, perhaps it is just that Ms Price is the one who embraces both branches of her heritage rather than claiming some moral authority by dismissing the non-Indigenous part.

    When I hear someone say ‘proud Xxxxx’ I think ‘that is your attitude toward yourself. It says nothing of what I must think.’

  146. Tintarella di Luna says:

    cABC issues apology to Jacinta Price for ‘hurt and distress’ over ‘defamatory’ speaking tour broadcast
    Jacinta Price. Picture: Chloe Elrich
    Jacinta Price. Picture: Chloe Elrich
    SOPHIE ELSWORTH
    MEDIA WRITER
    @sophieelsworth
    2 HOURS AGO APRIL 8, 2021
    The ABC has apologised to Alice Springs deputy mayor Jacinta Price for airing multiple radio segments that accused her of spreading “racist vitriol” and “hate speech”.

    Subsequent court action taken by Ms Price against the public broadcaster has also been settled between the parties.

    ABC Coffs Coast and ABC Alice Springs both aired radio segments on 11 September 2019 that included reactions to a speaking tour Ms Price conducted in Coffs Harbour in NSW.

    In the apology the public broadcaster included the damage caused by using information from a media release issued by the Coffs Harbour and District Local Aboriginal Land Council.

    “The ABC understands that the Land Council has withdrawn and apologised to Ms Price for statements contained in the media release which it accepts were false and defamatory, and which caused hurt and distress to Ms Price and her family,” the apology said.

    “The ABC did not endorse the opinions contained in the media release and apologises to Ms Price and her family for the hurt and distress caused by broadcasting those views.”

    READ MORE:ABC host apologises for mum slur|Price sues ABC for ‘racist’ defamation|Left’s shameful treatment of indigenous activist|You’re not the first, Jacinta|Price lashes ‘racist’ ABC
    Ms Price is a Warlpiri/Celtic woman and took legal action against ABC over the report that included nine local Aboriginal organisations to convince Coffs Harbour City Council to cancel her speaking tour, Mind The Gap.

    She toured Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney and was booked to speak at Coffs Harbour but the local council wrote to her saying she must first seek permission from the local Aboriginal community to enter their land.

    It was understood the Harbour City Council never imposed such requirements on anyone else to speak in their shire, however she did proceed with her speaking engagement.

    Ms Price, who launched the defamation proceedings in September last year, settled her claim against the Coffs Harbour and Districts Local Aboriginal Land Council in November and just last week settled her dispute with the ABC.

    Ms Price told The Australian she was “happy” with the settlement but could not disclose any details.
    1
    In a statement of claim filed in December, Ms Price said the public broadcaster defamed her in many ways including that she “spreads racist vitriol” and “vilifies and ridicules Aboriginal people and cultures”.

    bxvcvv

  147. Bar Beach Swimmer says:

    Mole:

    If they are now being held as liable, and enough people hit back it will be quite crippling for their editorializing as news department.

    Now, that’s something to look forward to!

  148. KC says:

    Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr says:
    April 8, 2021 at 2:01 pm
    Rolled Steel Joist … fits the acronym, & I suppose sorta (well, pretty much) describes the function.

    Never have I heard anybody call it an eye-beam. Never.

    Common term when I did my trade 50 years ago in Victoria. Also term used in NSW if you refer to this website page: https://buildersbeams.com.au/

  149. Bar Beach Swimmer says:

    ML, but remember it’s only minorities that can be proud. For everyone else, well, you must be a white supremacist if you think along those lines.

  150. Geriatric Mayfly says:

    She toured Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney and was booked to speak at Coffs Harbour but the local council wrote to her saying she must first seek permission from the local Aboriginal community to enter their land.

    Is this a stunt or a sign of things to come?

  151. H B Bear says:

    Sounds like Bluey will be going hungry for a while unless Ita has something in the freezer.

  152. Cardimona says:

    Steel roof members can also cause tilt-panel concrete walls to fall outwards as they expand in the early stages of a fire, before they lose structural integrity.
    I saw a prime example at a chemical factory fire at Narangba about 20 years ago.

  153. Geriatric Mayfly says:

    Sounds like Bluey will be going hungry for a while unless Ita has something in the freezer.

    Even her wage slaves will be cutting back on the gourmet doggy bags brought in to win Bluey’s favour.

  154. Fat Tony says:

    KC says:
    April 8, 2021 at 2:16 pm

    That site uses terms from the USA
    Their W beam is our UC

    I think the term RSJ is more of a generic term for any of the hot rolled sections – not a specific profile.

  155. Bruce in WA says:

    We’re on the road — currently in Point Samson, WA — on a month-long road trip covering about 10 000 km, so my internet access is patchy. Someone (mh?) asked upthread why we had the jab. Elizabeth is partly correct; we still have a lot of places we would like to travel to when this CV 💩 has subsided enough for international travel. We possibly don’t have the luxury of much time for that anymore. Plus, at my age, with a triple CABG and two stents under my belt, plus a history of being a former heavy smoker, I just figured WTAF and decided it was worth the risk.

  156. Cardimona says:

    Investigating a fire scene at a chemical factory might be the world’s crappiest job.

  157. Bar Beach Swimmer says:

    feelthebern says:
    April 8, 2021 at 1:44 pm
    She toured Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney and was booked to speak at Coffs Harbour but the local council wrote to her saying she must first seek permission from the local Aboriginal community to enter their land

    That’s no different from every state government pinging residents from elsewhere in the country.

  158. Cardimona says:

    Half an hour with my left hand under running water, then half an hour in a bucket of water, and then an hour on a cold pack.
    I reckon I might get away with blistering just on two fingers.

  159. Tintarella di Luna says:

    She toured Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney and was booked to speak at Coffs Harbour but the local council wrote to her saying she must first seek permission from the local Aboriginal community to enter their land.

    Is this a stunt or a sign of things to come?

    They only did that to Jacinta, no-one else, so it was totally discriminatory, they discriminated against her on the grounds of reasonably held beliefs and the truth of those beliefs.

  160. Leigh Lowe says:

    And just like that, we are back to the melting point of steel beams.

  161. Fat Tony says:

    Leigh Lowe says:
    April 8, 2021 at 2:35 pm
    And just like that, we are back to the melting point of steel beams.

    Softening LL, not melting

  162. Cardimona says:

    Let’s not get started on what happens to steel beams spayed with asbestos instead of being encased in concrete when they’re exposed to burning jet fuel…

  163. incoherent rambler says:

    steel beams spayed

    Breeders eh?

  164. incoherent rambler says:

    People stampeded and cattle …

  165. Cardimona says:

    Spayed works.

  166. Cardimona says:

    The designers thought the sprayed asbestos would allow the steel to remain useful as studs.
    Sadly that was not the case.

  167. Mother Lode says:

    NBN Internet is back on!

    There was a very heavy storm last night round these parts, and there was one peal of thunder so loud and so close on the flash of lightning that preceded it that it must have been very close indeed. I wondered if that might have frazzled some bit of infrastructure or tripped some breaker somewhere.

    It was so loud (the thunder) and felt so close I physically tensed ready to move.

    There was no going straight back to sleep after that.

  168. Dr Faustus says:

    Do they all melt in aviation fuel?

    Like gypsum.
    Especially with special, sooper-secret Thermate explosives, known only to CIA operatives and people Who Know on conspiracy sites.

  169. jupes says:

    Is this a stunt or a sign of things to come?

    The sign of things to come. It is the logical end state of “Welcome to country”.

  170. incoherent rambler says:

    Sheesh Doc. Get it right.
    It is the gypsum that makes aviation fuel dissolve steel and concrete!

  171. Leigh Lowe says:

    Fat Tony says:

    April 8, 2021 at 2:43 pm

    Leigh Lowe says:
    April 8, 2021 at 2:35 pm
    And just like that, we are back to the melting point of steel beams.

    Softening LL, not melting

    No, no.
    The term is “literally exploding”.

  172. Leigh Lowe says:

    Speaking of fires, Three Corners looks like trying to fit someone up for the Luna Park ghost train fire.
    Probably running interference for a deceased “senior labour figure”.
    Anyway, people described the fire as “like a nuclear bomb”.
    Well, it wasn’t.
    But they are setting the scene for “there must have been accelerant present”.
    I am thinking there would have been no need for accelerant.
    The thing was more than fifty years old, constructed mainly of timber, with little air gaps everywhere to introduce drafts and probably with lots of painted “special effects” on dried canvas.
    Nothing further required.

  173. Dr Faustus says:

    Sheesh Doc. Get it right.
    It is the gypsum that makes aviation fuel dissolve steel and concrete!

    One Who Knows.
    Hallelujah; not everyone is a sheeple.

  174. Bons says:

    The covid nannies vid brings joy to the soul.
    Real folks are still out there just awaiting their chance to reclaim their self respect.
    The wild celebration speaks of long term repression being blown off.
    “I canna hold er no longer Capn, she’s gonna blow”.
    Should be compulsory viewing.

  175. Dr Faustus says:

    Nothing further required.

    Apart from Abe and Nifty’s little helpers.
    Oh, shit! Shit! I think that might have been a spoiler…

  176. Fat Tony says:

    Leigh Lowe says:
    April 8, 2021 at 3:16 pm
    I am thinking there would have been no need for accelerant.
    The thing was more than fifty years old, constructed mainly of timber, with little air gaps everywhere to introduce drafts and probably with lots of painted “special effects” on dried canvas.
    Nothing further required.

    LL – obviously there would have been steel there “literally exploding”.

  177. Dot:
    Tim Pool: Biden no on vaxxports, Roe v Wade already bans them:
    The Beanie has more
    This has implications for Australia, as well.
    Many thanks to the person who put up the link to “Face masks medical exemptions”.
    I’ve looked for it on the QH site but alas….

  178. Top Ender:

    CASHED-UP itinerants have been spotted playing $5000 a hand card games by Larrakia Nation patrols after remote residents visiting Darwin recently each cashed in on up to $150,000 in royalties.

    I guess the nay sayers and doubters will believe me now?

  179. Mother Lode says:

    The ABC did not endorse the opinions contained in the media release…

    That is like when Numbers copy/pastes ridiculous vicious mean-spirited dishonest calumnies, or arguments that dissolve into nothing like a boogeyman in the wardrobe when the light is turned on, and claims that he was never asserting them as true, merely that he posted it on an impish whim (or something).

    They deserve each other.

  180. Lizzie:
    The Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children
    Unfortunately it appears to have fallen under the sway of the Fascist Left.

  181. Clam Chowdah says:

    Few MEN would lay their lives down for their men at the sharpest of sharp ends like Brig. Hunt. I hope his medals found an appreciative home.

    Fixed that for you. Bravery is not limited to the men who follow, but is distributed evenly (if in rarified quantities) around the general (sic) population.

  182. shatterzzz says:

    CASHED-UP itinerants have been spotted playing $5000 a hand card games by Larrakia Nation patrols after remote residents visiting Darwin recently each cashed in on up to $150,000 in royalties.
    So how do these folk still manage to keep claiming their CentreLink rip-off .. aren’t the Race That Stunts The Nation means tested?
    Tell me it ain’t sooo OUR gummint can’t be involved in DISCRIMINATION based on RACE, shirley!

  183. Farmer Gez says:

    Sheesh Doc. Get it right.
    It is the gypsum that makes aviation fuel dissolve steel and concrete!

    Highly refined gypsum or “Crack G” as we farmers describe it.

  184. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “Winston Smith says:
    April 8, 2021 at 3:35 pm
    Lizzie:
    The Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children
    Unfortunately it appears to have fallen under the sway of the Fascist Left”

    Name one institution that hasn’t fallen under the sway of the fascist left? I can’t think of one.

    I gave up donating to the RSPCA a few years ago….the organisation had become saturated with leftist ideology.

  185. Terry Pedersen says:

    Leak the Younger is so juvenile. Predictably stuck on the 2 east coast Labor Premiers, while the NZ tourism industry should be the focus.

  186. Fat Tony says:

    Cassie of Sydney says:
    April 8, 2021 at 3:48 pm
    Name one institution that hasn’t fallen under the sway of the fascist left? I can’t think of one.

    The Communist Party of Australia? (One would hope… )

  187. Leigh Lowe says:

    LL – obviously there would have been steel there “literally exploding”.

    Well, yeah.
    Obviously.
    Goes without saying.
    But the tinder dry timbers, paint, canvas, grease, oil, litter would have helped.

  188. Top Ender says:

    Outback report #1

    They get intoxicated and run amok’: ‘Hundreds upon hundreds’ of visitors in Karama fuelling crime woes, says MLA Ngaree Ah Kit

    Member for Karama, Ngaree Ah Kit says ‘hundreds upon hundreds’ of visitors have arrived in her electorate since last year, which has led to a spike in crime in the area.

    Natasha Emeck, NT News

    MEMBER for Karama Ngaree Ah Kit says “hundreds upon hundreds” of visitors have arrived in her electorate since last year, which has led to a spike in problems with crime in Karama.

    The MLA addressed growing concerns about crime in Karama during a radio interview on Mix 104.9 today.

    “We have been inundated with hundreds upon hundreds of visitors,” she said.

    “We have a large increase with our rough sleepers.

    “We hear a lot of Larrakia National night and day patrols are engaging with a lot of countrymen coming in from remote Aboriginal communities, which is absolutely fine.

    “As the local member, I will welcome anyone and everybody to the electorate; I just ask everyone to please be respectful and mindful.

    “If you’re not going to add value to our little community, then please don’t take any away.

    “We’ve just had an influx of a lot more people making really bad decisions with their behaviour impacting on others.”

    “The majority of people who are here visiting are here for the right reasons … it’s just a small cohort of them who often get intoxicated and run amok.”

    Ms Ah Kit said she was also extremely concerned about a spike in chroming in Karama.

  189. Top Ender:

    He is remembered equally for his cool head as for his inspirational leadership. In 1973 Settle married Margaret “Mags” Ainslie Clark, who survives him with their two sons.
    Terry Settle, born February 2 1945, died March 2 2021

    A man amongst men.
    His genes should have been preserved and used to give women who wanted superior genes for their sons a damn fine start in life.

  190. Cardimona says:

    Accumulated grease will melt out in a fire and leave floor burns remarkably similar to any other liquid accelerant.
    Same with floor polish, not that I’m suggesting they polished the ghost train floors.

  191. Top Ender says:

    Outback report #2

    Maningrida leaders call on parents to rein in ‘out of control’ teens

    Community leaders in Maningrida have called on the parents of ‘out of control’ teenagers to rein them in after a recent spate of youth crime in the region.

    Jason Walls, NT News

    COMMUNITY leaders in Maningrida have called on the parents of “out of control” teenagers to rein them in after a recent spate of youth crime in the region.

    In a video posted to Facebook, a man who identifies himself as a member of the school board and housing committee addresses the youths directly via a public address system.

    He says “the whole community it upset” after “everything’s been broken into”.

    “The main responsibility lies on parents, we need to see every parent here today to discuss this matter” he says.
    .
    “You mob don’t even listen to you mob parents, your parents are the important people in your lives, elders are the important people.”

    The man says he has lived in the community his whole life and “such behaviour wasn’t tolerated years ago”.

    “You mob make me shame, I’m a black man sitting here talking and you’re blackfellas too, blackfellas should know, we’ve got law, we’ve got restrictions, same as balanda, respect it please,” he says.

    “What if somebody came and break into your house, how would you feel? You have no right to go in there and take things or break things.”

    The man says the responsibility to keep unruly kids in line lies with their parents and urges the kids to listen to their elders.

    “They’re out of control, when you see stupidity like this it means they’re not controlled,” he said.

    “Your parents, they are your parents, mother and father or uncle or grandparents, when they tell you about what is wrong and right you listen to them.

    “You gotta be not hard but if you love your child start teaching him the right way, this mob could be our next generation.”

  192. notafan says:

    What does one mean by an accelerant anyhow?

    Someone rang around sloshing fuel out of a fifty gallon can of petrol and no-one noticed?

    All so nicely vague.

  193. JC says:

    Infidel Tiger King says:
    April 8, 2021 at 1:32 pm

    Strange game these mega corps are playing; they are cultivating a deep and abiding hatred of their ilk.

    All the pressure is coming from activist pension funds.

    Blackrock’s Leon Fink is appalling. He’s one of the worst abusers around. A total scumbag.

    Here’s the problem: When you buy into a fund under say the Blackrock umbrella, it means Blackrock has custodial rights over the stocks they buy for your portion of the fund. Blackrock are NOT the owners of the assets in the fund, but the custodians. This gives them a right to vote at general meetings and extraordinary meetings. Instead of using the custodial position to focus on improving the position of fund customers, the fucking turd is pushing his personal political positions… such global gerbiling etc.

    Funds should not be allowed to vote. Only the underlying owners should.

  194. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    Rolled steel joist?

    Big Sis’s first husband was a ‘builder’, meaning he had a bodgy builder’s license, in another name, to wit. His other job was stripping cars and working as an enforcer against the Green Ban squatters; his pic was on a poster the greenies put out as ‘watch out for these men’. He helped me out with a much needed kitchen reno when my lefty philosopher husband walked out: he called the RSJ a Retaining Steel Joist. The ceiling and floor later fell in but the joist held. He didn’t check for white ant in the bearers. 🙂

    Heart of gold though. Kith and kin, so he did it for free. Part-aboriginal as well.

    At least he didn’t do a Basil Fawlty and use a bit two by four wood. We found a bit of that holding up a supporting wall in our current art deco delight during renos two years ago.

  195. notafan says:

    There was a fire in an escalator in the London subway that was accidental.

    I think that might well have been described as a nuclear bomb.

  196. JC says:

    Name one institution that hasn’t fallen under the sway of the fascist left?

    Cassie, it’s not an institution but rather a sector. Private equity and privately owned firms. These businesses and the shareholders interest are perfectly aligned. it’s gratifying and this segment is getting bigger and bigger too.

  197. Fat Tony says:

    notafan says:
    April 8, 2021 at 4:17 pm
    What does one mean by an accelerant anyhow?
    Someone rang around sloshing fuel out of a fifty gallon can of petrol and no-one noticed?

    Structural steel, nota – it can literally explode.
    I bet they overlooked that particular accelerant…

  198. Cardimona says:

    There was a fire in an escalator in the London subway that was accidental.

    Like a lot of structural fires, poor housekeeping played a part, Nota.
    Oily chip packets accumulated in drifts will burn with a remarkably long flame and a lot of radiant heat.

  199. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    “They’re out of control, when you see stupidity like this it means they’re not controlled,” he said.

    Two things: there are no sanctions put on them for bad behaviour, and there is nothing else for them to do.

    Nor are there useful adult roles models for a lot of them. Lots of things have to change and go back to the way they used to be for these kids to have any sort of future. A lot more strictness and expectation, a lot more discipline in keeping themselves at school and their homes tidy. Picking up rubbish under community orders would be a good start as a sanction. Time to get serious, elders. Be a bit ‘harsh’; it’s needed.

  200. Cardimona says:

    Apologies if previously posted, but it’s official – coof fizzled…
    https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/health/causes-death/provisional-mortality-statistics/jan-dec-2020

  201. notafan says:

    Word BBS

  202. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    These kids need ‘tidy your room’ stuff, with inspections by serious community elders.

    Old mission style, the way it once used to be, and the elders were respected for it.

    The kids won’t get it though until the adults also shape up.

  203. Feelthebern:
    Thanks – I think – for the Adam Creighton post.
    “The Australian Newspaper has just published a review of the cost to the Australian economy of the governmental response to the WZV .
    I’ll put it in the comments, but a raw figure is $590 Billion.
    The Treasurer and government is slapping itself on the back with glee over the increase in the National debt to over half a trillion dollars.” (my FB post.)
    I nearly burst into tears as I read the deluded statements from them.

  204. Boambee John says:

    Terry Pedersen says:
    April 8, 2021 at 3:52 pm
    Leak the Younger is so juvenile. Predictably stuck on the 2 east coast Labor Premiers, while the NZ tourism industry should be the focus.

    Aww, Tewwy has the sads!

  205. Tailgunner says:

    we are back to the melting point of steel beams
    Yeah, stop that.
    Truth is dangerous

  206. Tailgunner says:

    Cardi, you should be old enough to know to leave any cut steel alone til after smoko, then clean up the offcuts.
    FFS.
    #CrazySteve

  207. notafan says:

    Cheers Cardi.

    The point of course is that there is no accelerant required to have a massive fire, as long as the materials to burn are there.

  208. Mater says:

    Aww, Tewwy has the sads!

    Potentially.

  209. Boambee John says:

    Leigh Lowe says:
    April 8, 2021 at 4:08 pm
    LL – obviously there would have been steel there “literally exploding”.

    Well, yeah.
    Obviously.
    Goes without saying.
    But the tinder dry timbers, paint, canvas, grease, oil, litter would have helped.

    Look up the English soccer stadium that went up in the mid-1980s. Timber construction, but decades worth of old chip wrappers, cigarette packets, pie packets and other inflammables were enough to cause a very rapidly spreading fire.

    Their ABC won’t know about that, it was before their “researchers” were born, therefore isn’t real.

  210. Tailgunner says:

    His other job was stripping cars and working as an enforcer against the Green Ban squatters; his pic was on a poster the greenies put out as ‘watch out for these men’.
    Respect!

  211. Bar Beach Swimmer says:

    notafan says:
    April 8, 2021 at 4:30 pm
    Word BBS

    Nota, not sure what you mean?

  212. Fat Tony says:

    Tailgunner says:
    April 8, 2021 at 4:35 pm
    Cardi, you should be old enough to know to leave any cut steel alone til after smoko, then clean up the offcuts.
    FFS.
    #CrazySteve

    TG – Cardi was wearing gloves too – gotta be a fairy or sumthink.

  213. Speedbox says:

    Winston Smith says:
    April 8, 2021 at 3:23 pm
    …..Biden no on vaxports…..this has implications for Australia, as well.

    Yes. The idea of international vaxport is in trouble without the USA being involved. Another new element is the likelihood that persons under 30 years, in particular, may not be vaccinated due to the possibility of blot clots. That change is being discussed among governments in Europe. Ditto for other ‘at risk’ groups. Will pubs/clubs still be happy to ban the under 30s who make up the bulk of their clientele? What’s next? A vaxport variant that states you cannot have the vaccine until you turn 31? Or never?

    And what of international tourists visiting Europe from America who will have no vaxport?

    The EU organisation is still very keen, as are some countries, but whether it can be rolled out in Europe before this summer remains to be seen. Think Italy, France, Spain 🙂

    Separately, I have heard that fake vaccine shot confirmations (QR code) are already available for your phone for €200 in Europe.

    Here, whilst the govt are collecting names/data on those who have the shot, it means that a downloadable ‘vaccination confirmation’ has to be made available if the vaxport eventuates. But, if its purely for domestic use, what’s the point especially when international tourism recommences and tens/hundreds of thousands of tourists begin to trickle through our gates.

    I previously thought a vaxport was 100% certain – I am less sure now.

    The gay leprechaun may have to re-think his ‘no jab, no ride’ policy.

    (pardon phrasing)

  214. Tailgunner says:

    Q’s last post, the “We’re Not Gonna Take It” clip, now banned in my country?

  215. notafan says:

    Your Windshuttle post BBS

    I admire it.

  216. Tailgunner says:

    wearing gloves too
    I thought he said he took them off… before handling hot steel.
    Riggers gloves are fine, if used as per instructions 🤣🤣
    Put on hands

  217. Dr Faustus says:

    The Grauniad tells us:

    There have been some changes in staffing in Anthony Albanese’s office that might be of interest to any political nerds out there.

    The shake-up sees the promotion of two women into Albanese’s circle of closest advisers – his so-called “leader’s executive”, which has been without a female voice since the controversial departure of Sabina Husic last year.

    A message right there about the Albanese Labor Alternative Government’s priorities for the Nation over the next 13 months.

  218. Fat Tony says:

    Tailgunner says:
    April 8, 2021 at 4:45 pm
    wearing gloves too
    I thought he said he took them off… before handling hot steel.
    Riggers gloves are fine, if used as per instructions
    Put on hands

    FFS TG – real men don’t read instructions – now go back to your play group

  219. Boambee John says:

    From Wiki, this is the fire I referred to above.

    The Bradford City stadium fire occurred during an English League Third Division match between Bradford City and Lincoln City at the Valley Parade stadium on Saturday, 11 May 1985, killing 56 spectators and injuring at least 265. The stadium, long-established home to Bradford City Football Club, was known for its antiquated design and facilities, which included the wooden roof of the main stand. Previous warnings had also been given about a major build-up of litter in the cavity below the seats in the stand. The stand had been officially condemned and was due to be replaced with a steel structure after the season ended.

  220. Boambee John says:

    More on the Bradford fire.

    One witness saw paper or debris on fire, about nine inches (230 mm) below the floor boards.[10] The stand seats did not have risers; this had allowed a large accumulation of rubbish and paper waste in the cavity space under the stand, which had not been cleared for many months.[citation needed]

    Spectators later spoke of initially feeling their feet becoming warmer; one of them ran to the back of the stand for a fire extinguisher but found none. A police officer shouted to a colleague for an extinguisher. His call was misheard, and instead the fire brigade were radioed.[10] The call was timed at 3:43 pm.[11] The fire escalated very rapidly, and flames became visible; police started to evacuate the stand. The blaze began to spread, and the roof and wooden stands were soon on fire. One eyewitness, Geoffrey Mitchell, told the BBC: “It spread like a flash. I’ve never seen anything like it. The smoke was choking. You could hardly breathe.”[16] As spectators began to cascade over the wall separating the stand from the pitch, the linesman on that side of the pitch informed match referee Norman Glover, who stopped the game with three minutes remaining before half-time. The original match referee (as named in the match programme) was Don Shaw, but he could not officiate due to an injury; Glover had been appointed to the match as replacement official. Shaw is still sometimes wrongly named as the match referee.[14]

    The stand’s wooden roof, covered with layers of highly flammable bituminous roofing felt, offered no resistance to the flames. Burning timbers and molten materials fell from the roof onto the crowd and seating below, and dense black smoke enveloped a passageway behind the stand, where many spectators were trying to escape.[10] It took less than four minutes for the entire stand to be engulfed in flames.[11]

  221. Bar Beach Swimmer says:

    notafan says:
    April 8, 2021 at 4:44 pm
    Your Windshuttle post BBS

    I admire it

    👍

  222. JC says:

    They will require less real estate space, but the idea that in future people will work primarily from home is utter nonsense.

    JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon outlines ‘serious weaknesses’ of virtual work

    While JPMorgan Chase (JPM), the largest U.S. bank by assets, quickly transitioned its operations to function virtually, CEO Jamie Dimon spotted some “serious weaknesses” in virtual work.

    “Performing jobs remotely is more successful when people know one another and already have a large body of existing work to do. It does not work as well when people don’t know one another,” Dimon wrote in his annual letter to JPMorgan shareholders.

    The 65-year-old CEO added that most people learn how to do a job “through an apprenticeship model,” which can’t be replicated over a Zoom (ZM) call.

    “Over time, this drawback could dramatically undermine the character and culture you want to promote in your company,” Dimon added.

    According to Dimon, “a heavy reliance on Zoom meetings actually slows down decision-making because there is little immediate follow-up.”

    What’s more, remote work “virtually eliminates spontaneous learning and creativity because you don’t run into people at the coffee machine, talk with clients in unplanned scenarios, or travel to meet with customers and employees for feedback on your products and services.”

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/jamie-dimon-on-virtual-work-131717513.html

    If JP requires 40% less space, I’d argue the reduced aggregate footprint will be about 30% less.

  223. Leigh Lowe says:

    Look up the English soccer stadium that went up in the mid-1980s. Timber construction, but decades worth of old chip wrappers, cigarette packets, pie packets and other inflammables were enough to cause a very rapidly spreading fire.

    Good get, BJ.
    I remember that.
    Bradford.
    I think it also had pitch in the roof.
    Not angle of pitch … actual tar pitch as water-proofing.
    But, yes, it went up like a Roman candle.

  224. lotocoti says:

    The Bradford City stadium fire …

    It was a live broadcast.
    The man walking out of the inferno was a terrible thing to see.

  225. Dover Beach:

    I see Tucker again bashed the Arkansas Gov senseless. Oh my, the scalps he is collecting. He pointed out that Wal-Mart family supported the veto on the grounds of some limited government and individual opportunity guff. Strange game these mega corps are playing; they are cultivating a deep and abiding hatred of their ilk.

    DB, I was initially a supporter of the larger Transnationals, but over the last twenty or so years I’ve realised the power they have amassed is a real and personal threat.
    The way they have interfered with the political process in Arkansas is quite insidious.
    Were President Trump to return to the Halls of Power I would support any efforts to break these large corporations up. Not because of their size, but because of the managerial abuse of their market power against the masses.

  226. Leigh Lowe says:

    Sorry, I didn’t see your later posts on the Bradford fire, BJ.
    But it illustrates how ‘normal’ stuff can go up like Guy Fawkes night without extra added ‘accelerant’.
    Reports say that the spot where the fire started on the ghost train was a ‘fake fire’, which was basically coloured streamers with a fan driving the streamers, so a ready source of airflow.
    I am not an expert on Sydney bodgies and widgies of the era (calli?), but it isn’t a stretch to suggest chaps like those might have been prone to flicking lit ciggy butts at each other.
    Or possibly 50 year old wiring with bakelite insulation might have contributed.

  227. Lizzie:

    If we got a truly serious virus anytime soon then there wouldn’t be enough money in the till to cope with it, certainly not in the way that we have ‘coped’ with Covid.

    Yes there will – our incompetent governments will just print/create it, and hope the inflation monster doesn’t kick the legs out from under the economy while they are in positions of responsibility.
    Remember that the bosses created this problem. Had they fallen asleep on 1/1/2020, and not woken up until today, literally NONE of this damage would have happened.

  228. Cardimona says:

    Some older wiring was rubber coated.
    Rats eating it away and conductors arcing was a common cause of structural fires.

  229. Leigh Lowe says:

    Someone here a while ago (nota?) mentioned a comparative site for online books, which compares prices for books from various online providers.
    Can anyone advise?

  230. notafan says:

    Booko.com.au

  231. Rockdoctor says:

    Speedbox. Tried to opt out of the vaccine register today. Don’t need it as I still have my yellow card from international forays that is much more secure than their data base ever will be. No can do, every medicare holder has one now. All you can do is stop entries into it if the medico takes notice of your request.

    I know I’ll have to get it sooner or later. Happy to put in yellow card, not on a data base.

  232. Tailgunner says:

    would support any efforts to break these large corporations up.
    Game of Thrones has lots of cool ideas on how to deal with the Traitors.

  233. Geriatric Mayfly says:

    Picking up rubbish under community orders would be a good start as a sanction.

    Yuendumu would be a good place to start. But you would need two generations of kids, at least, before the current mess would be considered under control.

  234. incoherent rambler says:

    the old wiring in this place was wrapped in some sort of black cloth.
    Never tested, but I assume it was flammable.

  235. notafan says:

    Speaking of television I’m watching Who Killed Sara, a Mexican melodrama (understatement) with English dubbing.

    Mexican elites seem to be exclusively old world Spanish.

    Its very days of our lives, except they don’t have the characters speaking to each other while both facing the camera.

    I might persevere, it can’t get any worse.

  236. Speedbox:

    Is the ICE dying? Yes and no. It will survive for a very long time into the future (especially in transport, equipment, mining etc in diesel format) but the ICE passenger car will effectively die out via legislation within twenty years from now.
    At the end of the day, you really won’t have much choice.

    Speedbox, that which cannot exist will not exist.
    The infrastructure that would support this idyllic future that has been planned for us doesn’t exist in a form that can economically continue.
    Their Utopia needs about four times the power to maintain it than exists at present. Germany and their Energiewinde disaster is proof of that.
    Boutique Electricity cannot supply the power needed. That is the problem here, and no amount of Magic Pudding pie in the sky thinking from our masters can change that very simple fact.
    What will happen is the Global economy will collapse under the weight of the Stupidium being heaped on it.
    So there is a choice – the ICE or global collapse, and the egos of our overlords will drag the last bits of benefit out of the wreckage to prop their egos before they admit they were wrong.
    /endrant

  237. Tailgunner says:

    Fire is always a good deterrent.
    The Lord of Light approved this message

  238. Tailgunner says:

    Never tested, but I assume it was flammable.
    Like Cardimona’s fingers?
    😅😅

  239. Tailgunner says:

    He’ll have his hand in a bucket of water beside the bed tonight.
    We’ve all been there, xunt

  240. incoherent rambler says:

    Traitors

    Requirements: Flammable oil, matches, trebuchet, rope, brick wall.

    OR

    Berley, rope, boat sharks.

  241. JC says:

    Can I just make a point that there’s now one thing the Demented Administration has done that is incredibly good and yuge. The admin has signed off on a gen 4 reactor. It’s going to be built.

  242. Geriatric Mayfly says:

    An oblique reference above to matters military. Normally a cue for someone to enter stage right and occupy the spotlight. Where is he lately?

  243. Roger says:

    Can anyone advise?

    booko.com.au is Australian based.

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