Liberty Quote
It is largely because civilization enables us constantly to profit from knowledge which we individually do not possess and because each individual’s use of his particular knowledge may serve to assist others unknown to him in achieving their ends that men as members of civilized society can pursue their individual ends so much more successfully than they could alone.
— Friedrich von HayekRecent Comments
- calli on Open Forum: April 10, 2021
- Mustapha Bunn on How public health would report this statistic
- Winston Smith on Open Forum: April 10, 2021
- Mother Lode on Open Forum: April 10, 2021
- wal1957 on How public health would report this statistic
- Geriatric Mayfly on Open Forum: April 10, 2021
- pete m on Open Forum: April 10, 2021
- Zulu Kilo Two Alpha on Open Forum: April 10, 2021
- Rex Anger on Open Forum: April 10, 2021
- Rex Anger on Open Forum: April 10, 2021
- wal1957 on How public health would report this statistic
- Lodger from Oz on Open Forum: April 10, 2021
- Rex Anger on Open Forum: April 10, 2021
- Adelagado on Biden obeys Trump
- Winston Smith on Open Forum: April 10, 2021
- Bons on Open Forum: April 10, 2021
- Geriatric Mayfly on Open Forum: April 10, 2021
- calli on Open Forum: April 10, 2021
- Shy Ted on Open Forum: April 10, 2021
- H B Bear on Open Forum: April 10, 2021
- thefrollickingmole on Open Forum: April 10, 2021
- Geriatric Mayfly on Open Forum: April 10, 2021
- H B Bear on Open Forum: April 10, 2021
- thefrollickingmole on Open Forum: April 10, 2021
- jupes on Open Forum: April 10, 2021
- Rex Anger on Open Forum: April 10, 2021
- miltonf on Biden obeys Trump
- jupes on Open Forum: April 10, 2021
- miltonf on Biden obeys Trump
- feelthebern on Open Forum: April 10, 2021
-
Recent Posts
- How public health would report this statistic
- Biden obeys Trump
- Speedbox: Covid roulette – Australia lost
- Australia Post and Christine Holgate
- This is why Mount Isa roofers must continue to wear masks
- The vaccine: not only risky but it doesn’t actually work
- Luncheon of the Doting Party
- David Bidstrup guest post. Vaccinate or Perish!
- Noted sex kitten mocks Mrs M
- Queens of the Stoning Age
- Peter Campion guest post. A few plain words
- Into People’s Arms
- Returning Australia to sanity – the crucial importance of a sense of proportion
- Maybe Prince Philip did not want to come back as a deadly virus to kill people + Spectator tribute
- Jacinta is not for turning
- There ought to be a law
- Frank Brennan’s Offensive Defence
- Vikki Campion guest post. Ministry of tokenism
- How The End of History started … and how it’s going
- Democrat insurrectionists begin a long-expected siege
- Open Forum: April 10, 2021
- Philip Mountbatten 1921 – 2021
- Music Maestro: April 9, 2021
- Pyrmonter: Convince me it’s different here
- Peter Thiel on the Chinese Digital Currency
- “…we may never recover our standing as free citizens…”
- Left-wing women’s briefs
- Diggers must acknowledge ‘owners’ of the country they saved
- This is not a chicken and egg problem
- Let us give thanks to politicians for correcting our failings
Archives
Pages
Blogroll
- 38 South
- ABC The Drum
- AEI Ideas
- Alex
- all right, all right
- Andrew Bolt
- Andrew McIntyre
- Andrew Norton – New
- Andrew Norton – Old
- Arnold Kling
- Aussie Macro Moments
- Becker – Posner
- Bill Mitchell – billy blog
- Bob McGee
- Cafe Hayek
- Calculated Risk
- Calling Bullshit
- Captain Capitalism
- Carpe Diem (New)
- Carpe Diem (Old)
- Causes of the crisis
- Charles Richardson
- Chicago University – Pro Market
- Chris Snowdon
- Confessions of a College Professor
- Consumer Choice Center
- Continental Telegraph
- Conversable Economist
- Coordination Problem
- Cryptoeconomics
- Dan Wang
- Daniel Greenfield
- David Hart
- Diane Coyle
- Dick Puddlecote
- Econ Journal Watch
- EconAcademics
- Econbrowser
- EconLog
- Econofact
- Econometrics Beat
- Economic Education Initiative
- Essential Hayek
- Fault Lines
- Fiscal Times
- Foundation for Economic Education
- Freedom and Prosperity Academy
- Greg Mankiw
- Grey Enlightenment
- Guido Fawkes
- Head Rambles
- Homer Paxton
- How does your MP vote
- Institutional Economics
- International Liberty
- Islam and Liberty Network
- Jim Rose
- John Cochrane
- John Lott
- John Taylor
- Journal of Economic Perspectives
- Julie Borowski
- Keith Hennessey
- Legal Insurrection
- Liberty Law Blog
- Liberty Works
- Loaded Dogma
- Macrobusiness
- Mannkal Foundation
- Marginal Revolution
- Marius Kloppers
- Mark the Ballot
- Mark the Graph
- markedlymacrotoo
- Market Urbanism
- Master Resource
- Matt Ridley
- Menzies House
- Michael Oakeshott Association
- Michael Smith
- Michel Rauchs
- Miranda Devine
- Money Illusion
- MyGovCost
- Natural Order – Christopher Lingle
- New Economist
- Notes on Liberty
- Offsetting Behaviour
- Oliver Hartwich
- On Line Opinion
- Paul Johnson Archives
- Peter Fenwick
- Peter Martin
- Philippa Martyr
- Piled Higher and Deeper
- Pointman
- Political Calculations
- Potemkin's Village
- Poverty Cure
- Prick with a fork
- Principles of Forecasting
- Quadrant Online
- Queensland Economy Watch
- Quillette
- Raph Koster
- Reflections on Liberty and Power
- Retraction Watch
- Rhino economics
- ricardian ambivalence
- Robert Murphy
- Roger Kerr (archive)
- Rosemary Fryth
- Skepticlawyer
- Sound Money
- Spiked
- Sports Economist
- Statista
- Stop Gillard's Carbon Tax
- Streetwise Professor
- Stubborn Mule
- Taking Liberties (Simon Clark)
- Tax Foundation
- Tax Rambling
- TaxProf
- The Baseline Scenario
- The Black Steam Train
- The Marcus Review
- The Moronic Lodge
- The TaxPayers' Alliance
- The Visible Hand
- The Wentworth Report
- Think Markets
- Thomas the Think Engine
- Tim Blair
- Tim Worstall
- Truth on the Market
- Vox CEPR Policy Portal
- William Briggs – Statistician
Meta
In a nutshell (or Funeral) the difference between the rich and those poor sods who have lost their businesses, livelihoods, travelling, you name it. Suck it up.
Who is this person?
Frock up suckers.
Are you against the idea of state funerals in general CL, or just for this person in particular?
Are you against the idea of state funerals in general CL, or just for this person in particular?
That’s remarkably low-energy trolling there, Benito M0ntylini. Even for your anklebiting.
Have a donut. It’ll help…
I must say, and this is nothing against Zampatti, the bar for State Funerals is getting lower.
Former PMs and war heroes sure, but that should be about it. Otherwise it risks becoming about who gets to attend.
Cite you the clowns in Western Australia who argued that Alan Bond should have been given a State funeral…
The last state funeral in Britain was Sir Winston Churchill’s in 1965.
Before that, King George’s in 1952.
Those were the only two of the twentieth century.
Churchill’s had to be approved by the Queen and the Parliament (because it was to be paid for by the people). It was a very high, rare and singular honour.
Alan Bond was not only unfairly hounded by grifters, he should have been made Governor General…and have been given a state funeral and an honorific such as “Beloved”.
Now that’s how trolling is done, Monty.
State funerals in Australia are mawkish, feely festivals meant to reflect advantageously on the Premier who ‘offers’ them (without our permission).
Do they realize she was a Pell supporter?
Rex A
That’s remarkably low-energy trolling there, Benito M0ntylini. Even for your anklebiting.
His trolling has been very low level of late. I suspect that he has had a few moments of clarity about the senile old man whose dumping in the US Presidency he so avidly supported.
What CL says is true. But Ted Whitten still deserved his, as evidenced by the million people who turned out to watch his cortege pass by.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMK865zHg7w
A funeral of the state might be a better bet, or at least half of it.
All women should get state funerals. After all they have been repressed by the State and Men their whole lives.
I’m not sure who Fairfax’s Andrew Hornery is but I do know he’s a cock head:
Carla Zampatti’s ‘very boring’ dinner with George Pell.
As the article makes clear, she didn’t ever say that of Pell.
Bondy got a fair hand-up from all of us slogged the SGIC levy. Would’ve been nice if some of it was repaid when he (or some trust) sold his Jutland Pde pile.
“hzhousewife says:
April 4, 2021 at 3:49 pm
Do they realize she was a Pell supporter?”
Indeed…I’ve long known about their friendship. Carla was a loyal and true friend to Cardinal George Pell. RIP Carla.
I don’t know whether she warrants a state funeral…but at least she contributed to Australian society…she created beautiful clothes (all made here in Oz)….yes they were expensive clothes but less is more. She made women look and feel beautiful. And I’d rather give Carla a state funeral than some poxy mediocre ex-politician.
“According to fashion icon Carla Zampatti, dinners at her private estate in Woollahra are “all very boring”.”
She was probably taking the micky out of the journalistic mediocrity that is Hornery. And clearly Hornerly likes to engage in hyperbole…..describing Zampatti’s home in Woollahra as a “private estate” is a big laugh. Yes she lived in a beautiful home in Woollahra…as does Anita Keating…wonder if Hornery would describe Keating’s digs as a “private estate”. I doubt it but Zampatti is fair game because she had ties to the Liberal party and of course…she was a friend of George Pell’s.
Geez I loathe journalists. They’re scum.
The wrong person died from falling down the stairs …
Where’s my cats state funeral?
I could not afford to buy her clothes , not even on credit card or today’s Afterpay.
Just looked up prices $900 for a jacket $500 for pants . End of season sales prices are cheaper but still cannot afford tgem.
Alan Bond should have been hanged, drawn and quartered…
I have no problem with a state funeral for a lady who did good stuff.
Seven News had a grab of her saying this in their report last night. It should be a Liberty Quote on the Cat.
Doesn’t make a hell of a lot of sense unless, … Carla was on board with the Globohomo Agenda?
It appears Commonwealth state funerals in Australia are only a little more frequent than British state funerals, but Britain doesn’t have the concept of states and your criticism appears mostly targeted at the states. The Churchillian analogy doesn’t really hold.
I am not really sure what you are whingeing about, beyond that you want the honour of a State funeral restricted to men of what you consider to be acceptable distinction.
Doesn’t make a hell of a lot of sense unless, … Carla was on board with the Globohomo Agenda?
Get your limp innuendo out of it Grigory…
I am not really sure what you are whingeing about, beyond that you want the honour of a State funeral restricted to men of what you consider to be acceptable distinction.
Eat another donut, M0ntylini.
Your energy levels are still dangerously low…
Don’t spend too much time on this Groogs. Your insights can be put to much better use.
mUnty time to send the pussy hat to the drycleaners and put it into storage.
Damn HB,
That putdown was even crueller than mine!
State funerals in Australia are mawkish, feely festivals meant to reflect advantageously on the Premier who ‘offers’ them (without our permission).
Spot on. And Gladys B. was reportedly quite a fan of Ms. Zampatti’s clothes.
Take the politics out of it as much as we can – the only person who should be offering a state funeral is the state governor, and under stringent guidelines.
Both of them, even!
Best to sit this on out mUnty.
But!! BUT!!
This is the same government that has given Turnbull a “Net Zero Emissions” job.
When one of my mates told me, I thought it was an April Fool joke.
As I said to my lovely wife Bewilderbeest, western civilisation is doomed. Next thing we will be arrested for doing a wet fart.
Bondy should have had a state funeral in WA He finaced the building of a racing boat with some of the money he stole from investors for a bunch of rich yachties from Freo to win a cup off a bunch of US wankers. Then they lost it to NZ who lost it to the Swiss Navy . An exercise in throwing money away .
Didnt the super rich socialist Hawke get a freebie funeral ?
Clearly my sincerity needs work.
People need to remember Bondy defeated Kevin Parry. People called Kevin shouldn’t own yachts.
Although some may differ, I think I’m a pretty reasonable bloke. A dedicated reader of the Cat for a couple of years now, I have detected a sense of negativity directed towards poor Monty. May I suggest we start a collection from within our erstwhile little group enable us to provide Monty with a state funeral? We could all meet in person, (except for the deceased of course, but there’s always videos etc of his most unforgettable moments), and the excitement of his knowing he’ll be going out with great fanfare might hurry things up?
Or perhaps we see if we can get a buy one get one free with Carla
People just shouldn’t be called Kevin
Fuck me Monty, that’s mindless zombie trolling if I ever saw it.
Llama A Budget Funerals lowest cost funeral $50 down and the balace within 7days or we dig him up ?
You are bereft of reason. It’s your singular quality.
JC should really go and check on the fat fuck. If he was a racehorse you’d shoot it.
mUnty time to send the pussy hat to the drycleaners and put it into storage.
Monty claims Cats “are scared of strong women.”
I think Monty is scared of all women.
+1 Helen.
RIP Carla. You seemed like a decent stick and role model, you don’t deserve having your passing turned into a political circus.
Also, the Carla Zampatti edition Ford Laser was a 1980’s Australian style icon. Thank you for your service.
Seriously? A rebadged Mazda 323? Heroic at he very least,
I’ve been criticising state funerals for years, Monty. The only people who should be considered for such an honour are high and distinguished officials of state, lifelong servants of the public/the poor and military heroes of the Keith Payne or Weary Dunlop rank. In other words, state funerals should be exceedingly rare. More especially give that most state officials are scandalously well remunerated in the modern age (unlike most of the civil servants of old).
Zampatti was a great woman but she was not at the service of the people and she was richly rewarded for her industry. If I was a member of that family, I would consider it an insult to contaminate her obsequies with state ceremony.
May she rest in peace.
Lame brain is reaching out for friends it would seem??? Good luck scumbag.
By the way, I cannot think of any living “distinguished officials of state.”
Not one.
R.I.P. Carla…..Ends.
Better lacking in reason than a meaningless existence, ain’t that a fact
Better lacking in reason than a meaningless existence, ain’t that a fact
Meaning?
Better lacking in reason than a meaningless existence, ain’t that a fact
Meh
By the way, I cannot think of any living “distinguished officials of state.”
Not one.
Simples, C.L. There isn’t one.
C.L. says: April 4, 2021, at 5:34 pm
+1000 the whole post – an excellent summary with which I agree wholeheartedly.
You’re right Covid, I can’t think of anyone either. Maybe that blonde sheila with the ski jump eyelashes on married at first sight but that’s it
My poor mother should have had one. I was a difficult child.
I’m trying to recall the last State funeral in Western Australia?
Sounds like you’re living a rich, full life.
Charles Court?
If he didn’t get one, then who?
Cheer up – there’s always the chance that the whole thing will need to be called off due to a virus scare at an Eastern Suburbs hens’ party.
With bureaucrats and lollies routinely pulling $300k+ pa they are rewarded enough on this mortal coil.
Damn straight Albo. With the way of life as we know it is falling apart, ya gotta have a sense of humour. And when I dish up this vindaloo it’ll be fuller than ever. Is colo-rectal surgery painful?
Graham “Polly” Farmer, August, 2019.
You’re most tedious when you try to be amusing. You can’t even make good with a joke about shitting for Christ’s sake. I’m embarrassed for you.
How does being embarrassed for someone else work? Do you pull faces at yourself in the mirror? Does your shrink know?
Cringe.
Lame Brain you need a whole lot more help than you’ll get here, so you need to have a frank and open conversation with those close to you and get yourself committed.
Just because I care.
Heh! All part of the fun. We’ll all be glowing in the dark soon enough
To be fair – it’s only, or at least mostly, the residents of NSW paying. The UK has one less level of Government so less competition for holding minor celebrity funerals.
C.L. @ at 5:34 pm, perfect.
Bob Irwin refused a state funeral for his son Steve. I’m not aware of any others turning down the offer.
“Betty” Cuthbert’s family declined the offer of a State funeral, as did Richie Benaud’s family.
Is she not the same woman who had intercourse with her husband on his desk in Parliament House?
How does that deserve a State Funeral?
Bkelke-Petewrsen’s widow told Beattie [thru the Media] that they could have a State Funeral if they wished, but it would only be at their Church in Kingaroy.
It was another Stunt by Beattie, same as this is by Gladys.
Bjelke should never have been honoured with a State Funeral, and Glady’s reasons for honouring Carla don’t stack up either.
Fair enough, and they would be if the states did not conduct state funerals. Not sure why they do, really. I’m of a mind to agree with you on this one.
BTW I was not trolling, I was curious and wanted to clarify CL’s position in my mind.
No Mizaris, I thought so, too. I looked it up and apparently not
She’s the wife of John Spender and daughter-in-law of Percy Spender, NSW Liberal royalty.
Sir Joh was the greatest Premier we ever had. Of course he deserved a state funeral.
For that alone she deserves a state funeral. I can’t imagine the fury of the luvvies that she dared to be different.
I would love to pay for a number of state funerals. All politicians, all next week. There’s this little bit – after losing consciousness at the Opera – that’s happened to me a few times when I’ve been dragged there. PS, was she Covid tested because you have to be?
Sacré bleu – it was Jan Brown, wife of John Brown Snr.
LOL.
One of the more retarded things ever written by this cohort of sock puppets.
Well, I had never, ever, heard of this lady. I had no idea who she is or what she does. A state of affairs that caused me no pain, but change has been trust upon me and like minded.
Looking it up a bit, apparently, in her chosen line of work, which is merely clothing, she has made vast sums of money. No medical breakthroughs. No life saving research. No rescued Nuns from a burning bus. Just someone who went about their business, the same as millions of others, just a tad more rewarding, I guess.
John A says, “Zampatti was a great woman but she was not at the service of the people and she was richly rewarded for her industry.”
Admirable summation.
Didya notice that all these state funerals are merely politicians spending other peoples money for personal gain? Gain being photo ops, good feelz, another chance at a free feed and drinkies. It’s all farce.
The reality is, it’s a lot of money to spend on someone who’s dead. Far more in many, many cases, than what is spent on someone who’s alive.
I often wonder if all these celebrities and takers would do the exact same thing for just a little reward. There are many common folk who work for little reward. No state funeral for them, of course.
You know the rest of us have access to Google, right?
Groogs was having a bit of an off day yesterday. I’m assuming it was something to do with his meds and the public holidays.
***Sir Joh was the greatest Premier we ever had. Of course he deserved a state funeral.***
There are thousands of reasons why he was no good.
Here’s two:
1. He introduced the Methadone Program in Queensland, with the result that every Hospital in the State has a zombie Army of Droogs living nearby in Social Housing the last 45 years.
2. He Abolished Death Duties in Qld, removing one of the least inequitable Taxes that supported State Governments, and made them even more dependent on Federal Grants [now the GST].
So, he implemented an AntiSocial solution to the Drug Issue, and he was anti State’s Rights by Abolishing a Legit source of Revenue.
I’m sure that Carla Zampatti created much more value and paid vastly more tax (both directly and indirectly via her business, payroll tax, etc) than this funeral will cost.
If Gladys gives a speech explaining that successful business provides wealth to both individuals in that business and also to many, many other members of the community in general … then I’m OK with that. And yes, it’s a fair disclaimer that business is competitive and no doubt someone missed out somewhere down the line … it happens, life is like that.
If we start hearing endless carry-on about “Altruism” then I’m going to be sick.
There are thousands of reasons why he was no good.
Here’s two:
1. He introduced the Methadone Program in Queensland, with the result that every Hospital in the State has a zombie Army of Droogs living nearby in Social Housing the last 45 years.
2. He Abolished Death Duties in Qld, removing one of the least inequitable Taxes that supported State Governments, and made them even more dependent on Federal Grants [now the GST].
So, he implemented an AntiSocial solution to the Drug Issue, and he was anti State’s Rights by Abolishing a Legit source of Revenue.
So, Grigory is pissed off because Uncle Joh made sure Queensland no longer has a guaranteed income stream from the estates of dead junkies?
How much gypsum does he think the Dead have access to? 🤣
#EdOctober
#OneSockOnly
Death duties are immoral and an attack on the nuclear family. KYS.
Also all state taxes, noticeably on smokes, grog, petrol & so on.
Plus hospitals – including outpaitent clinics – were free of charge to patients.
Protest marchers had the boot laid into them.
Three years in, a new highway section would be showing two & half years of wear, currently three years in, most of the surveying & some of the excavating is done.
In return we had to put up with no overly-saucy magazines & …er… was there a downside… at all?
Me too. Great ‘mother of the bride’ stuff if you don’t want to go the frills line of Anthea Crawford. A lot of women in the media wear Zampatti, classic power dressing. Even Rita Panahi, although I have never gone much on that bright pink jacket she wears, which was from Zampatti’s bright pink era a few years back now – you can get some of it in sales now.
I think the State funeral is because her death was such a shock to the dinner party set in the Eastern Suburbs. She was at the Premiere of La Traviata at the Opera House, ffs, where you don’t expect to go to die, especially at only 78 and in good health.
I got a severe warning from Hairy to lower the heels and hang on going down steps now. Very sweet. He doesn’t want to lose me and my terrific cooking. I am fashioning some garlic prawns for an entree tonight. Followed by sausages. 🙂
Unless the reviews of your latest products are absolutely bluddee terrible. 😟
***Plus hospitals – including outpaitent clinics – were free of charge to patients.***
Completely wrong there, bud.
The Hanlon Government introduced the Free Hospitals Scheme in 1946, long before the arrival of Petersen.
Snort.
***Plus hospitals – including outpaitent clinics – were free of charge to patients.***
Completely wrong there, bud.
The Hanlon Government introduced the Free Hospitals Scheme in 1946, long before the arrival of Petersen
How did he fund it, Grigory?
Death-taxing the junkies out of all their gypsum?
They had an Idiot Tax, rex.
People like you had to walk round with a bag over their heads to
avoid paying.
True story.
I say Beeyelkah Iampeterson’s Gypsum excise was his best policy.
So you’re saying it affected you personally? Always back a horse called Self Interest I suppose…
They had an Idiot Tax, rex.
People like you had to walk round with a bag over their heads to
avoid paying.
True story.
You’re so very cute when you get the shits, Grigory.
Never stop being butthurt when one of we lesser beings out-trolls you… 😁
It is out of control.
Carla Zampatti, Lou Richards, Michael Gudinski.
They might be solid citizens but not deserving of a state funded funeral (which really only gives sitting Premiers a chance to bathe in some reflected glory).
From my memory, I reckon the last deserving recipient of a state funeral was Weary Dunlop.
sometimes I wish I was Monty.