Hearsay on parmesan

Four Corners is quoting a statement about a statement possibly regarding an official statement:

 
Good luck with that in court.

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81 Responses to Hearsay on parmesan

  1. notafan says:

    ‘For whatever reason was taken off the table’

    I don’t know.

    Maybe she changed her mind.

    I though she committed suicide on 24 June while in hotel quarantine having just returned to Adelaide from Sydney.

  2. min says:

    One reason she gave about not making a statement was that she dissociated .

  3. Infidel Tiger King says:

    Perhaps they could try a ouija board for the next stage of the investigation?

  4. duncanm says:

    Efforts to interview her in person had been delayed to that point by the COVID pandemic

    well – apart from the 35 years prior to that.

  5. duncanm says:

    Oh, and

    .. the day after the complainant requested the Skype interview, investigators spoke to her “by way of teleconference” and “options were presented to [her] in relation to obtaining her statement”.

    They say “a joint decision by all parties was made not to conduct the interview remotely“.

    “There were a number of reasons which led to this decision. The [alleged] victim was understanding and supportive of this decision.”

  6. min says:

    Listen to podcast Andrew Bolt and psychiatrist round about 8th March who looked at her diaries and circular writing that were kept before and after the alleged rape . I’m sure this will be used as evidence

  7. C.L. says:

    The report says she requested a Skype conference and got a “teleconference” the very next day. What am I missing?

    ‘For whatever reason was taken off the table’

    Those are the words of extremist Greens MP David Shoebridge. The police did not take anything “off the table.”

    I dare say making a statement alleging rape against the Attorney-General of the Commonwealth of Australia requires a bit more formality than a chat on Skype.

    This is the ABC again trying to wish into existence an official complaint that doesn’t exist and will never exist.

    I don’t know how this poor lady’s family can cope with this circus. I feel for her and them.

  8. duncanm says:

    Meanwhile,

    searching “kathy sherriff” site:abc.net.au, brings up zip, nada, zilch, nothing.

  9. JC says:

    Infidel Tiger King says:
    April 8, 2021 at 5:15 pm

    Perhaps they could try a ouija board for the next stage of the investigation?

    Very true, but they can’t be certain of making contact with a right spirit. What if say Ivan Milat gets on the ‘wire’ and begins making up bullshit. How would the ABC and Louise 7-Nilligan look then?

  10. notafan says:

    Exactly but the abc presents Shoebridge’s comments as value adding or something.

    More like water muddying.

    Porter should add this article to his claim

  11. duncanm says:

    C.L. says:
    April 8, 2021 at 5:19 pm
    The report says she requested a Skype conference and got a “teleconference” the very next day. What am I missing?

    ‘For whatever reason was taken off the table’

    Shoebridge is making shit up.

    There was mutual agreement to not proceed with an online statement. Per both the ABC, and the Guardian, which states it a bit more strongly.

    The NSW Police have also explained their controversial decision not to seek a statement from Porter, arguing without a signed statement from the victim there was no formal allegation to put to him, and revealed the [alleged] victim asked for, but then decided against giving a statement via Skype.

  12. C.L. says:

    Porter should add this article to his claim

    His legal action against Four Corners is pending but the arrogant ABC doubles down anyway – trying to build up a truth defence based on what might have happened.

    Earth to the ABC: ask Porter’s lawyers for a number and settle now.

  13. Jock says:

    What a big fat nothing burger this report was. Not an iotas of new evidence. Just discussing the contact with the NSWPF. Even the bit about the SA coroner is meaningless, at least in the context of the accused.

    Why do we have pictures of Porter, but not of the woman with mental issues.? Why is she protected but not Porter and his kids?

  14. Rich says:

    What a big fat nothing burger this report was

    On the contrary it was highly valuable journalism by our state broadcaster

    How else would we know that the day after she requested a Skype call, they spoke to her ‘by way of teleconference’, perhaps using zoom or facetime, instead of the (allegedly) requested Skype

    Truly, an insightful piece of investigative journalism

  15. Suburban Boy says:

    Those are the words of extremist Greens MP David Shoebridge.

    I don’t want to sound like a pedant, C.L., but are there any Greens MPs who are not extremists?

  16. Roger says:

    His legal action against Four Corners is pending but the arrogant ABC doubles down anyway…

    Well, it’s not as if it’s their money that’s at risk.

  17. Roger says:

    I don’t want to sound like a pedant, C.L., but are there any Greens MPs who are not extremists?

    Greens-Animal Justice Party VIC MP Andy Meddick has called on his supporters to “rid the country” of “disgusting” political conservatives.

    Here, as in the US, the radical Left is issuing calls to violence against fellow citizens who disagree with them politically.

  18. Paul says:

    Very scary that the police are using the word victim to describe the complainant. Not much chance in getting a fair hearing in this country any longer.

  19. Perfidious Albino says:

    The arrogance of Shoebridge purporting to better understand appropriate investigative procedure than NSWPF…

  20. harrys on the boat says:

    Perhaps they could try a ouija board for the next stage of the investigation?

    Good to have this funny c u n t back. CL’s posts, Toms Toons and IT’s dribbling lunacy. Perfect blog.

  21. Cassie of Sydney says:

    Shoebridge is a nasty far-left totalitarian. The fact that he and the rest of the green scum are in our state and federal parliaments (apart from Western Australia..one good thing to come out of the electoral annihilation a few weeks ago) is a sad indictment on this country.

    “I don’t know how this poor lady’s family can cope with this circus. I feel for her and them.”

    You know C.L, the woman is dead…by her own hand…so please forgive me for not feeling much for her. I didn’t know her and given what has emerged it is clear that she was mentally sick and lived, for the last few years of her life, in a fantasy world. I’m not being cruel but I can’t dwell on her. Whilst I’ve never been a huge fan of Porter, I feel for him and his family, what they are going through and what they will continue to go through because it is very clear that their ABC and the progressive left, as they did with Cardinal Pell, will not ever give up. The ABC is a far-left organisation that is out of control and every conservative/right of centre person should be wary of it.

    As for this woman’s family, I strongly suspect they know the truth about her mental state, her decline and her history of fantasy. She lived in another world. Perhaps it’s time her family spoke up. I know my family would.

  22. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “I don’t want to sound like a pedant, C.L., but are there any Greens MPs who are not extremists?”

    No.

  23. Professor Fred Lenin says:

    If Porters action succeeds and he recieves a payout and costs the ” jouralists ” responsible should be liable for all costs , the alpbc should not pay aything at all after all the alpbc needs that money for promoting racist ,mizojenist groin propaganda to help destroy western civilisation . Every taxpayer dollar is a step closer to a great marxist future .

  24. David Brewer says:

    It’s just incredible that the ABC continues to abuse its power on this issue, even with a libel action pending against it.

    Legally, they have nothing on Porter, and there is nothing for an inquiry to investigate. A criminal allegation was made at some point, the police investigated, the allegation was dropped, and the person making the allegation died. In five months of non-stop rumbling the ABC has not been able to come up with a shred of evidence that would make the original allegation stand up in court, and they are now in court anyway with an opportunity to prove this wrong if they can. In these circumstances, the ABC should be respecting the presumption of innocence, and in any case it has a moral obligation to stop torturing the subject of the withdrawn allegation, his family, and the family of the complainant while the court case proceeds.

    Yet they just keep on leaking, insinuating, reporting hearsay, and publishing photos that frame the accused but hide the identity of the dead complainant from the general public, although not from anyone who knew her.

    They have obviously been dragging out the whole thing in a well-planned drip-feed of irrelevant details designed only to keep the story in the news non-stop.

    The ABC’s behaviour is disgraceful and its Director of News and possibly its Managing Director ought to be sacked.

  25. Old Lefty says:

    Shoebridge is leader of the Stalinist Rhiannion faction of the NSW Greens – the ones who disparage Bob Brown as a ‘tree Tory’.

    The ABC quotes him as adding value because it is a shrieking, sectarian propaganda organ of the Stalinist wing of the Greens.

    Meanwhile, here is another piece of Stalinist Christian-bashing from the ABC in the gay cause:

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-08/openly-gay-teacher-karen-pack-sacked-morling-college-email/100055422

    At least it’s not in Yarragrad, where they’d be jailing the principal.

  26. Roger says:

    The ABC’s behaviour is disgraceful and its Director of News and possibly its Managing Director ought to be sacked.

    I think you’ll find they have the full confidence of Ita and the Board.

  27. miltonf says:

    Anyway Buttrose has proved that she was always part of the problem going right back to Cleo.

  28. Roger says:

    Anyway Buttrose has proved that she was always part of the problem going right back to Cleo.

    And a Liberal appointment, to boot.

    You reap what you sow.

  29. Lee says:

    I don’t want to sound like a pedant, C.L., but are there any Greens MPs who are not extremists?

    No.
    And I can’t think of a current Green in the country who isn’t a nasty, abusive piece of work.

  30. JC says:

    I don’t want to sound like a pedant, C.L., but are there any Greens MPs who are not extremists?

    Is the Pope a catholic? Of course not!

  31. covid ate my homework says:

    Is the pope a pederfile?

  32. Tintarella di Luna says:

    Why is she protected but not Porter and his kids?

    Because they’ve probably already got blood on their hands due to the pressure put on the poor deceased woman and they now want to protect her privacy because of course the privacy of the dead is so much more important than the privacy of the living especially if a conservative and the children of the conservative.

  33. Roger says:

    And I can’t think of a current Green in the country who isn’t a nasty, abusive piece of work.

    The current crop of Greens make Bob Brown look like a gentleman farmer.

  34. miltonf says:

    And a Liberal appointment, to boot.

    I stopped expecting good policy from the Liberols from about 2015 onwards.

  35. Spurgeon Monkfish III says:

    they spoke to her ‘by way of teleconference’, perhaps using zoom or facetime, instead of the (allegedly) requested Skype

    I’m assuming in this instance that “teleconference” simply means a glorified telephone call involving several parties, i.e. the non complainant and possibly a confidant, with several police on the other end.

    I’m not sure, given the deceased woman’s “mental health issues”, that a video call would have resulted in a different outcome – i.e. her making a formal statement.

    Oh – the ALPBC should be nuked from orbit and every greenfilth politician chained to its various sites’ exteriors while this glorious event takes place.

  36. C.L. says:

    What is the point of publishing five pixelated photographs of this woman?

    Are we supposed to draw conclusions about her based on her upper torso?

  37. C.L. says:

    The current crop of Greens make Bob Brown look like a gentleman farmer.

    It’s funny because it’s true.

  38. Roger says:

    I stopped expecting good policy from the Liberols from about 2015 onwards.

    I stopped expecting good policy from the Liberals when John Howard disarmed law abiding citizens in reaction to the murderous acts of a schizophrenic, arrogated property rights from land owners without compensation in order to placate the Kyoto crowd and, togethyer with Peter Costello, announced the welfare dream of the baby bonus.

  39. Spurgeon Monkfish III says:

    I stopped expecting good policy from the Liberols from about 2015 onwards.

    From 2011 onwards for those living in NSW.

  40. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “The current crop of Greens make Bob Brown look like a gentleman farmer.”

    Correct…and whilst no fan of Brown, he was a true environmentalist. Shoebridge is an inner-city, venal Marxist….who lives in Woollahra, once of Sydney’s snootiest suburbs.

  41. miltonf says:

    Took me a while to stop drinking the kool-aid.

  42. Spurgeon Monkfish III says:

    I first became aware of the shoebridge creature’s existence when Bolt and Blair reported on an interview where shoebridge basically refused to admit that NSW’s coal fired power stations should be subject to ongoing maintenance and overhauls that would ensure their ongoing operation past their original lifespans.

    I knew from that point on that he was an utterly crazed misanthropic hypocritical idiot impervious to reality (BIRM).

    There is no acceptable reason for these dangerous extremists to be allowed representation in our legislatures. None.

  43. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “I stopped expecting good policy from the Liberals when John Howard disarmed law abiding citizens in reaction to the murderous acts of a schizophrenic, arrogated property rights from land owners without compensation in order to placate the Kyoto crowd and, togethyer with Peter Costello, announced the welfare dream of the baby bonus.”

    Ahhhhhh…..well said.

  44. Snoopy says:

    Christian Porter and the complainant at dinner during a high school debating competition on the night of the alleged offence.(Supplied)

    Porter couldn’t take his eyes off her.

  45. Boambee John says:

    Snoopy says:
    April 8, 2021 at 7:51 pm
    Christian Porter and the complainant at dinner during a high school debating competition on the night of the alleged offence.(Supplied)

    Porter couldn’t take his eyes off her.

    He must have eyes in the back of his head. She, OTOH …

  46. Squirrel says:

    “Mr Porter, who now holds the Industry and Science portfolio, has strenuously denied the allegation made by the woman and has sued the ABC for defamation.”

    Classic passive-aggressive snark – in a similar vein, the ABC should leave this issue alone, and let the public rely on reports from other media outlets.

  47. Joanna Smythe says:

    So Skype was around 35 years ago. They kept that quiet.

  48. Ed Case says:

    Wasn’t the story that the NSW cops couldn’t send anyone over because COVID, but suggested she make a Statement to SA cops, who would then send the paperwork off to Sydney.
    She nixed that, possibly because it sounded like bullshit.
    She counter suggested a Skype Statement, the NSW cops demurred, and she suicided the next day.
    So, why couldn’t the cops in Sydney do the Skype?

  49. notafan says:

    No, it wasn’t.

  50. Viva says:

    IMO the ABC included numerous photos of the complainant to try and make her seem a real presence rather than abstraction. They must be getting desperate.

  51. Mr Bunny says:

    As a police investigator, a detailed statement from an alleged victim, for an alleged serious offence that occurred some 30 years ago, would take many hours and possibly days to complete. And there is bound to be iterations and further statements. There would be a number of drafts given the time gap and issues arising that may be at odds with the alleged victim’s memory. It cannot be done via Skype.

  52. Boambee John says:

    Just looking at that photo at the dinner (presumably the best that Their ABC could find), while it is just a moment in time, Porter seems indifferent to her, she is focused on him.

    Perhaps he was not as responsive to her charms as she thought, and much of her accounts were what might have been, rather than what actually occurred?

  53. notafan says:

    She had five or six face to face interviews with nsw police.

  54. dopey says:

    It’s always strenuously denied, or consistently, or vigorously or emphatically denied.The media’s way of saying ‘the bastard’s lying’.

  55. duncanm says:

    Head Case – go and read the news reports that have been linked.

  56. duncanm says:

    For some context… the responses to the Shorten rape allegations, by a living [alleged] victim.

    Plibersek: “.. said Mr Shorten had made a gutsy decision to speak out”
    Turnbull: “It is very, very painful to feel that you are the subject of an unjust accusation,”
    Wong: silence
    Hanson Sea Patrol: silence

    ..

    On Porter..
    Plibersek: In response to a question as to whether Mr Porter should resign, Ms Plibersek said “there needs to be answers about what happened 30 years ago”.
    “It’s completely wrong for the Prime Minister to say that an independent inquiry would be unprecedented … I think the real question is ‘why is the government so determined not to have an inquiry?’

    Turnbull:

    Wong: “bumped into” the complainant in Adelaide and facilitated her journey to reporting the [alleged] incident.

    Sea Patrol:”.. The question is whether he is a fit and proper person to be around the cabinet table with these types of allegations levelled at him.”
    .. she reiterated her call for an independent review into the matter, saying it was “difficult to see” Mr Porter returning to his role without Mr Morrison being “certain” he was fit to hold it.

    “We don’t need to talk about hypotheticals. What we have here is a very specific allegation,” she said.

    “I think an independent review, an inquiry, is really the only way a Prime Minister could properly inform himself as to whether the men that sit around his cabinet table are fit to be there.”

  57. duncanm says:

    I missed Turnbull’s acidic response to the Porter allegations.. but I think most of you know what they were. What an arse.

  58. Muddy says:

    C.L. says:
    April 8, 2021 at 5:19 pm

    the words of extremist [my bolding] Greens MP …
    Muchly approve.

    This is the [????] ABC again …
    Seems to be an adjective missing here.

  59. H B Bear says:

    Groogs back on the case. Standby.

  60. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “Joanna Smythe says:
    April 8, 2021 at 8:06 pm
    So Skype was around 35 years ago. They kept that quiet.”

    Indeed…..strange.

  61. Boambee John says:

    Cassie of Sydney says:
    April 8, 2021 at 9:18 pm
    “Joanna Smythe says:
    April 8, 2021 at 8:06 pm
    So Skype was around 35 years ago. They kept that quiet.”

    Indeed…..strange.

    The Skype business was last year, just before she killed herself.

  62. Louis Litt says:

    Oi COVID ate my homework – steady
    Dirty proddy

  63. TBH says:

    I know someone who has recently gone through the process of filing a rape complaint against someone else I (unfortunately) know. The police treated the matter absolutely seriously, assigned a female officer to interview the young woman in question as a matter courtesy and did a very thorough investigation. The matter has since gone to court, with a very high chance of conviction. I’d like to think that this is the procedure in the majority of cases.

    On that basis, I hope Porter not only wins, but doesn’t settle and that Milligan loses her fucking house as a result. Smear jobs like this diminish other more serious cases IMHO.

  64. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “The Skype business was last year, just before she killed herself.”

    I know…..I was being incredulous and facetious…as was Joanna.

  65. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “Smear jobs like this diminish other more serious cases IMHO.”

    Correct…they actually make a mockery of real sexual assault and wape.

  66. Up The Workers! says:

    Whaever’s up Ita’s Butt, it sure don’t smell like a rose!

  67. Boambee John says:

    Cassie of Sydney says:
    April 9, 2021 at 6:56 am
    “The Skype business was last year, just before she killed herself.”

    I know…..I was being incredulous and facetious…as was Joanna.

    Apologies to both you and Johanna. Subtle humour isn’t my strong point!

  68. Rafiki says:

    Meanwhile, the man who claims to have spoken with the “complainant” and Porter over the years has made a statement to the police, and the SA coronial is on foot.

    Porter needs a favourable outcome from a judicial inquiry into the facts to remove as far as possible the stain on his character. The defamation action is his only option. It’s risky for a number of reasons, including unconscious bias by the judge that would influence the outcome of both the liability and damages issues. If the ABC pays in an amount that’s more than any damages, Porter will be hit with heavy costs.

  69. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “Rafiki says:
    April 9, 2021 at 8:48 am”

    So sayeth the legal eagle expert Rafiki…..lawyer, QC/SC, Judge.

  70. duncanm says:

    Rafiki says:
    April 9, 2021 at 8:48 am
    Meanwhile, the man who claims to have spoken with the “complainant” and Porter over the years has made a statement to the police, and the SA coronial is on foot.

    James Hooke (alleged-rape era boyfriend) is being very careful with his words (as he should be), but my interpretation of his statements is that his discussions with police did not condemn Porter. such as here

    Hooke said he had made himself known to NSW police after his friend’s death.

    “In relation to any criminal prosecution, Christian Porter was manifestly and appropriately entitled to the presumption of innocence – it is essential to the rule of law,” he said.

    “In relation to any investigation of the important non-criminal aspects of this matter, I support an inquiry, like either that conducted by three retired eminent judges after Justice Lionel Murphy was acquitted of charges, or that conducted by Dr Vivienne Thom into allegations about Justice Heydon.

  71. Spurgeon Monkfish III says:

    In relation to any investigation of the important non-criminal aspects of this matter

    Which will be examined in Porter’s defamation action, you imbecile.

  72. duncanm says:

    Spurgeon — I think you’ll find Hooke made that statement before Porter’s defamation action was filed.

  73. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “duncanm says:
    April 9, 2021 at 9:41 am
    Spurgeon — I think you’ll find Hooke made that statement before Porter’s defamation action was filed.”

    Correct.

  74. Spurgeon Monkfish III says:

    Dunc and Cass – therefore the defamation action obviates the need for any other form of “investigation of the important non-criminal aspects of this matter”, something various f*ckwits in the meeja and legislature (and most probably Hooke as well) seem incapable of accepting.

  75. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “Spurgeon Monkfish III says:
    April 9, 2021 at 9:56 am
    Dunc and Cass – therefore the defamation action obviates the need for any other form of “investigation of the important non-criminal aspects of this matter”, something various f*ckwits in the meeja and legislature (and most probably Hooke as well) seem incapable of accepting.”

    That’s how I see it…but we should wait for our legal eagle aka Chief Justice Rafiki of the Catallaxy Supreme Court to weigh in and advise us accordingly.

  76. Notafan says:

    Oh so Porter might have said (non criminal) mean things.

  77. Notafan says:

    Which will have zero relevance to whether or not a crime was committed. Which is what the defamation defence will rely on.

    Or will the ABC run with but there were non criminal elements so calling him a wapist was okay.

  78. duncanm says:

    Notafan says:
    April 9, 2021 at 10:21 am
    Oh so Porter might have said (non criminal) mean things.

    or more likely, Hooke’s personal experiences were of a lady becoming completely unhinged.

  79. min says:

    No matter what Hooke has said and remember he was only 17 or so when he was in a relationship with her , the evidence that can point to her mental state, the food diaries and the circular writing, that were written at the time , will be analysed by psychiatrists.
    So young teenage men , or even older would be able to observe mental problems ? I know of psychologists who have missed diagnosing quite serious issues . I have also pointed out that she was given the wrong therapy for someone who dissociates . That will cause some conniptions in the court I reckon.

  80. min says:

    PS following on re Porter case , one psychiatrist has already picked up thought disorder from those diaries and circular writing .

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