The vaccine: not only risky but it doesn’t actually work

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77 Responses to The vaccine: not only risky but it doesn’t actually work

  1. Infidel Tiger says:

    The left want lockdowns. They need the vaccine to to fail.

  2. bollux says:

    So, doesn’t stop you catching it, doesn’t stop you spreading it, it may cause problems for you forever, could cause infertility in young women, could possibly kill you, alters DNA, forces this virus to mutate so you need boosters forever, and for 99.4% of the population who will survive this virus, makes the “vaccine” worse than the disease. And makes Fauci rich.

  3. Professor Fred Lenin says:

    The left dont have friends ,why should the Proles enjoy themselves ?
    That is only for the left “eelites” , standing smiling falsely ,back to the wall so you cant get stabbed , chatting to someone you hate and are envious of plotting to usurp his well paying job ,or just hating him because ,well because .
    Laughing falsely at pitifull clowns pretending to be comedians ,swearing and rubishing people outside the herd.
    They are having a socialist globalist “Comedy Festival” in Melbourne ,haha , a socialist wankfest , there wont be any real comedy ,but they got the festering bit right .

  4. feelthebern says:

    Fauci announces COVID vaccinations in the anus more effective.

    PS, may or may not be from the Bee.

  5. Mother Lode says:

    It would be much simpler to produce a vaccine against Fauci.

  6. Damon says:

    What is an ‘infection’? Are people sick, or just PCR positive? If the latter, does it matter?

  7. tombell says:

    Fauci announces COVID vaccinations in the anus more effective.

    Hunter recommends sticking parmesan up there.

  8. egg_ says:

    not only risky but it doesn’t actually work

    Sounds like a horse designed by a Govt committee.

  9. mh says:

    I know which ones are the crazies

    TheJokerMouce
    @TheJokerMouce
    So they’re going after the mentally disabled/housebound ppl who CAN’T fight back/aren’t allowed to say no?
    Gee, this reminds me of…🤔
    The way Nazi’s started with the mentally disabled.
    How long before we hear of these ppl dying?
    This is wrong on SO many levels!
    #BidensAmerica

    https://twitter.com/TheJokerMouce/status/1381326289890648065?s=20

  10. calli says:

    Mh, was I seeing right? Were those people forcing vaccination on the mentally disabled armed?

  11. C.L. says:

    Yes they were. It’s called “Operation Homebound” run by the LA Sheriff’s Dept.
    The mentally disabled are forcibly ‘vaccinated’ while armed police supervise.

  12. Shane says:

    ”Fauci says he personally takes 8000-9000 units of vitamin D per day ”
    so presuming he got the real vax shot, have to wonder what he knows…..

  13. feelthebern says:

    mh, that post is shocking & sickening.
    I am speechless.

  14. rich says:

    Ah shucks caught in another Kafka Trap (Fauci Trap?)

  15. H B Bear says:

    Thank God Trump’s not in charge anymore.

  16. harrys on the boat says:

    They produced a map showing the latest COVID cases in the UK recently, significantly down, but still a few concentrated areas. The authorities bizarrely said that cases generally are single figures and they could name them so people could stay clear, but wouldn’t. When you see the map of the UK and the red areas, surprise, surprise its the muslim shitholes in Birmingham, Bradford, Manchester etc.

    We’ve destroyed western civilisation because of unhygienic diseased migrants.

  17. H B Bear says:

    mh, that post is shocking & sickening.
    I am speechless.

    Adopting the devils advocate position, that reaction would be perfectly natural from someone incapable of understanding what is going on (note: not the accompanying 4-6 people). Presumably a next of kin or guardian has already provided consent. The video is just for effect and tells you nothing about what is going on.

  18. H B Bear says:

    Having been in a few rooms full of people with brain injuries it isn’t always pretty. Nurses and support workers are often required to have huge reserves of patience to keep going.

  19. Ellen of Tasmania says:

    Whatever position you have on the Rona or the vaccines, surely, this far into the movie, you’d have to be asking yourself what on earth is really going on?

    Weirder every day.

  20. Albatross says:

    Shane says:
    April 13, 2021 at 10:53 am
    ”Fauci says he personally takes 8000-9000 units of vitamin D per day ”

    He learned this trick after visiting bath-houses in the 80s for “research purposes”.

  21. Ubique says:

    Fauci: “it’s still not ok for vaccinated Americans to eat and drink indoors.”

    Ok, so we’ll have to eat and drink in the street or the backyard. How about sleeping, taking a shower, checking the email, or watching TV? Are they ok indoors? Or is it just taking sustenance that’s the problem?

  22. PaulW says:

    Now they are saying international travel will be almost non existent until 2024, and this was before the delay in the vaccine rollout. So it is not just the great and powerful Fauci constantly changing his mind through this.


    Deloitte Access Economics’ latest quarterly business outlook predicts international travel won’t fully return until 2024, as international borders open slowly until then.

    On top of that, Deloitte said quarantine for arrivals would likely remain in some form for years, as efforts continue to stop the virus being imported back into the country.

    Deloitte economist Chris Richardson said that would have a bearing on overseas travel getting back to what it was pre-COVID.

    “That keeps international travel – both inbound and outbound – pretty weak in 2022, and it may not return to pre-pandemic levels until 2024,” he said, according to 7 News.

    Deloitte’s quarterly forecast was prepared prior to Australia’s national vaccine rollout hitting a setback last week, which could further dampen expectations about the return of overseas travel.

    https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/international-travel-for-australians-likely-wont-return-until-2024/news-story/310c4c272e77e356f4e001e0a839820a?utm_source=news.com.au%20%E2%80%94%20Australia%E2%80%99s%20leading%20news%20site&utm_mediam=email&utm_campaign=editorial

  23. Professor Fred Lenin says:

    Albatross , I once asked a chemist if taking massive amounts of vitamin C would prevent colds ,he replied that the body would accept and process as much as it wanted and excrete the rest ,disclouring the urine . I take one vitamin D capsule a day thats probably all you need . Fauci is a real decromat ,from the same mold as the other geriatric crooks ,
    Sniffy ,Botox Poops nadler pencil neck and the other shit .
    America needs areal Revolution to eliminate the shit.
    Its a third world country where thieves can steal an election and get away with it unpunished .

  24. egg_ says:

    How about sleeping, taking a shower, checking the email, or watching TV? Are they ok indoors?

    Yeah – but you have to sh1t in the street – Indians are ahead of the game.

  25. Professor Fred Lenin says:

    Ubique ,got an email from one of my cousins ,who lives in Lancaster , England , the government is now allowing the punters to eat outdoors ,she said there wont be many takers as its 3 degrees there ,she is adefinite non starter .

  26. egg_ says:

    When you see the map of the UK and the red areas, surprise, surprise its the mu slim shitholes in Birmingham, Bradford, Manchester etc.

    Good – a mask might shut up Brian Cox for a few minutes.

  27. Roger says:

    When you see the map of the UK and the red areas, surprise, surprise its the muslim shitholes in Birmingham, Bradford, Manchester etc.

    The same in Sweden, apparently.

    It has skewed their numbers all along.

  28. egg_ says:

    Oh noes!!!

    Bwian Cox says we now have to watch out for “long COVID”!

    Long Covid: an unfolding story with Professor Brian Cox | The Royal Society

  29. feelthebern says:

    Is long COVID a description of people who recovered from the “treatment” they received, especially the NHS, who are struggling not with any COVID related but related to the negligence of the health workers?

  30. Arky says:

    It’s worth stating for the hundredth time: the vaccines aren’t going to do shit.

  31. feelthebern says:

    So which vaccine did you get arky?

  32. Arky says:

    We are now seeing emerge into the light the cul-de-sac that the logic of an elimination policy has driven us. There is no way out but to engage reverse.
    Which isn’t happening any time soon.

  33. Arky says:

    Bern, I’m waiting to see the long term effects on the older, catallaxy lady cruising demographic, some time in 2024/ 25.

  34. feelthebern says:

    So arky, you’re saying we need to have more stricter lock downs & forced vax jabs ?

    h/t Stupid bird that interviewed JP.

  35. feelthebern says:

    I’m just being a dick arky.
    People having the jab (any jab now) should be paid as they are participating in a stage III trial.

  36. egg_ says:

    Is long COVID a description of people who recovered from the “treatment” they received, especially the NHS, who are struggling not with any COVID related but related to the negligence of the health workers?

    Symptoms over 4 weeks, particularly over 12 weeks, by UK definition – probably ‘Elf workers bombarded by the bug.

  37. Professor Fred Lenin says:

    Now let me get this clear ,you get the jab ,but you can still get the virus and spread it to others , ,in every following year you are going to have a booster, so by the end of ten yearsthe vaccine will have gone trough the period normally acceptable for vaccine trials but you have had ten in the trial period with the other mass guinea pigs .
    This must bethe biggest vaccine trial in history .
    Whatever happened to herd immunity ? Why have I only met one person with the common flu this season ? So many questions with no one to answer them .

  38. Judge Dredd says:

    In ten-to-twenty years time when there is a massive increase in certain types of cancers or immune problems this will be blamed on something else, but we will all know it was the not-vaccine.

  39. Colonel Crispin Berka says:

    Arky says: April 13, 2021 at 12:57 pm

    It’s worth stating for the hundredth time: the vaccines aren’t going to do shit.

    Cool your jets, Arky. The vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna are about 92% effective. What all the other side-effect risks are I don’t know, but you can’t say they “won’t do shit”. They do appear to achieve the stated goal of immunising someone against most strains of `rona.
    They are also exceptionally effective in allowing the patient to tick a box saying they’ve been vaccinated, which is probably their main use in a virus with a 99.7% survival rate.
    The Moderna one is probably the best, and the only reason it “won’t do shit” in Australia is because the docs seem to be hamstrung by Da Gubmint and Da Gubmint can’t/won’t order it in. Probabilistically you are still 10x safer having this vaccine (0.03% adverse reactions) than getting covid19 (0.30% IFR).

  40. Bollux:

    And makes Fauci rich.

    You noticed that too, eh bollux?

  41. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    Bern, I’m waiting to see the long term effects on the older, catallaxy lady cruising demographic, some time in 2024/ 25.

    lol. I’ll let you know, Arky. 🙂

  42. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    Wow. No international travel till 2024 for us imprisoned Aussies. And here’s me with two trips booked for 2020 still awaiting new dates and now two cruises booked for 2021 also awaiting new dates – and you can bet I am not on my voting onesome.

    Maybe I can leave these trips to my kids as part of their inheritance?
    It’s getting to look a bit like that unless they open up and at least let us return via home quarantine. The hotel system wouldn’t cope with any mass tourism returns. 🙂

  43. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    Sorry that’s for 2022 likely looking like needing new dates. We weren’t silly enough to book anything for this year of 2021, called stay at home year.

  44. m0nty says:

    Anyone who believes in the premise of the OP has shit for brains. There is no better way to put it.

    As to whether CL himself believes it or is just trying to score political points using lies… it doesn’t matter really, the effect is the same. The effect is to completely discredit Catallaxy Files as an authority on anything.

  45. luke73 says:

    Cool your jets, Arky. The vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna are about 92% effective. What all the other side-effect risks are I don’t know, but you can’t say they “won’t do shit”. They do appear to achieve the stated goal of immunising someone against most strains of `rona.
    They are also exceptionally effective in allowing the patient to tick a box saying they’ve been vaccinated, which is probably their main use in a virus with a 99.7% survival rate.
    The Moderna one is probably the best, and the only reason it “won’t do shit” in Australia is because the docs seem to be hamstrung by Da Gubmint and Da Gubmint can’t/won’t order it in. Probabilistically you are still 10x safer having this vaccine (0.03% adverse reactions) than getting covid19 (0.30% IFR).

    Thank you for this injection (no pun intended) of common sense.

    The modern trend of a convergence between many folks on the right with the new age, activated almond eating, chemtrails believing, batshit anti vax nuts is disturbing.

  46. harrys on the boat says:

    So speaks m0nty who wet his pants pleading with us to believe the Russian dossier, stormy and her deviant lawyer.

    Fuck off. Just fuck off.

  47. Fat Tony says:

    Who is this luke73 who thinks we need his advice & judgment??

  48. calli says:

    The modern trend of a convergence between many folks on the right with the new age, activated almond eating, chemtrails believing, batshit anti vax nuts is disturbing.

    Even more disturbing is the ease with which people have been convinced to be guinea pigs for a rapidly developed and largely untested vaccine.

    And no, Israel is not a good example. Nowhere is. Time is the factor that’s missing for long term side effects.

  49. Mark A says:

    Fat Tony says:
    April 13, 2021 at 6:09 pm

    Who is this luke73 who thinks we need his advice & judgment??

    If my memory serves me right, and it usually does, he is one from the old J Morihassy blog. Smart, but too smart and left of Mao.

  50. feelthebern says:

    No international travel till 2024 for us imprisoned Aussies.

    You can get on a plane tomorrow & fly to almost any country on earth.
    On your return, come via the west coast of the US & you’ll grab the shuttle & be even able to quarantine at home.
    You just have to pay.

  51. luke73 says:

    If my memory serves me right, and it usually does, he is one from the old J Morihassy blog. Smart, but too smart and left of Mao.

    I tried googling J Morihassy and came up blank, anyway I think on this one occasion your memory has failed you mate, I’m not particularly smart (yeh, I get you meant a smartass) and I’m not far left, in fact I consider the far left a bunch of tiresome wankers mostly.

  52. Bruce says:

    ”Fauci says he personally takes 8000-9000 units of vitamin D per day ”

    Well, if Falsi is allergic to sunlight………..that would make him a v……….

  53. Figures says:

    Sorry Monty and Luke but neither of you understand the first thing about epidemiology.

    And that thing is:
    Self-fulfilling prophecy.

    If doctors believe the vaccine works then the data will soon appear to show this even if it doesn’t work at all.

    All COVID vaccines are completely worthless. Inasmuch as they appear to work it’s only because PCR cycles will likely be done less if the patient is vaccinated.

    The tests were worthless too because of “crusader bias”.

    I’m the only one on this site that understands the whole truth of medicine because I’m the only one that understands that you *cannot* use statistics to build up a theory of medicine. Ironically, I also understand the statistics better than everyone here.

  54. Rex Anger says:

    I’m the only one on this site that understands the whole truth of medicine because I’m the only one that understands that you *cannot* use statistics to build up a theory of medicine. Ironically, I also understand the statistics better than everyone here.

    Graeme also believes the Sayeret Matkals under his bed are out to get him…

  55. Rex Anger says:

    The modern trend of a convergence between many folks on the right with the new age, activated almond eating, chemtrails believing, batshit anti vax nuts is disturbing.

    The Great Whote Moby surfaces again…

  56. Matt says:

    Figures:

    I’m the only one on this site that understands the whole truth of medicine

    Bahahahahahahahahaha.
    Ha.
    Ha.

  57. Rex Anger says:

    As to whether CL himself believes it or is just trying to score political points using lies… it doesn’t matter really, the effect is the same. The effect is to completely discredit Catallaxy Files as an authority on anything.

    Benito M0ntylini is outraged, as he perceives that the Cat’s own have achieved the purpose to which he set himself.

    (Not that anyone who he thinks ‘important’ or ‘credible’ would read the Cat anyway…)

    What is it about fascist leftwits and that miasmic aura of crippling, apoplectic envy that seems to accompany them everywhere they go?

    #ConfessionByProjection

  58. m0nty says:

    I’m the only one on this site that understands the whole truth of medicine because I’m the only one that understands that you *cannot* use statistics to build up a theory of medicine. Ironically, I also understand the statistics better than everyone here.

    Park life!

  59. Mark A says:

    luke73 says:
    April 13, 2021 at 8:02 pm

    I tried googling J Morihassy and came up blank, anyway I think on this one occasion your memory has failed you mate, I’m not particularly smart (yeh, I get you meant a smartass) and I’m not far left, in fact I consider the far left a bunch of tiresome wankers mostly.

    Apologies, misspelled her name, Marohasy.
    And I meant my remark as a compliment. Luke was/is very smart, knew his stuff, but not always right but never admitting.

  60. Albatross says:

    The modern trend of a convergence between many folks on the right with the new age, activated almond eating, chemtrails believing, batshit anti vax nuts is disturbing.

    Just a smear. You’re a cockhead Luke.

  61. Albatross says:

    Matt says:
    April 13, 2021 at 8:35 pm

    You’re been caught out and exposed lying about having a PhD.

    Post DOI or leave.

  62. Figures says:

    Bahahahahahahahahaha

    You’re going to start another argument with me Matt?

    They all go the same way:

    You ask for proof of my claim, I give it to you, you act obtuse, I explain it again, you say “but your position is unpopular, ergo wrong”, I say “popularity is irrelevant to truth”, you then end the discussion.

  63. Ozman says:

    People do not realize how serious this planned fake pandemic really is and why a transgene is being introduced via the injections to alter DNA. According to Californian human rights attorney Leigh Dundas, mRNA injections killed all the ferrets in a previous trial. Now the trial is every human, except for those special individuals who are to be exempted–given placebos instead.

    Bill Gates says Pandemic 2 is coming and it will get Taiwan, New Zealand and Australia, this time. Apparently, Australia was one of three countries that missed out on testing everybody with the fake PCR tests.

    Have a read of this John Hopkins preparedness report. As with Event 201, the model of the operation is explored to assess contingencies under the guise of preparedness. Once the strategies have been explored how to handle objections and push back (because the numbers don’t add up when there is no evidence of a pandemic), all the trolls and foot soldiers are informed. They can do the dirty work, by creating confusion and dissent, so people give up and submit, with the aid of fear mongering, propaganda, peer pressure and various governmental controls, dictated by WHO.

    Doctors are incentivized to not think and just do the dirty work of convincing their patients, who trust them, to take the transgene injection, even though it is a trial. These are gene altering injections, not vaccinations. There is a massive difference between trials done to prove safety on animals and injecting humans en masse as the trial.

  64. Matt says:

    The Pfizer vaccine (an mRNA vaccine) does not alter DNA.
    AstraZeneca is not an mRNA vaccine and does not alter DNA.

  65. Matt says:

    Figures, I’m not going to ask for proof of your claims that you are the only one on this site that understands the whole truth of medicine. I’m just going to assume this is part of the Melbourne International Comedy Festival.

  66. Albatross says:

    Matt says:
    April 14, 2021 at 7:14 am
    Figures, I’m not going to ask for proof of your claims

    I’m going to ask for proof of the PhD you were caught out and exposed lying about. Post DOI.

  67. Albatross says:

    Figures says:
    April 14, 2021 at 2:08 am
    Bahahahahahahahahaha

    You’re going to start another argument with me Matt?

    Matt got his shit absolutely wrecked on the Bidstrup post:

    https://catallaxyfiles.com/2021/04/12/david-bidstrup-guest-post-vaccinate-or-perish/

    Pages of lies, and he was proved absolutely wrong as a matter of fact. So he just wandered from there over to here and started his smarmy know-nothing liar schtick again.

    He’s really a POS.

  68. Shane says:

    Came across this yesterday written back in 1917 originally in german.
    https://htgraceson.com/blog/removing-the-soul-of-humanity-by-rudolf-steiner
    ” In the future, we will eliminate the soul with medicine. Under the pretext of a ‘healthy point of view’, there will be a vaccine by which the human body will be treated as soon as possible directly at birth, so that the human being cannot develop the thought of the existence of soul and Spirit.

    To materialistic doctors, will be entrusted the task of removing the soul of humanity. As today, people are vaccinated against this disease or that disease, so in the future, children will be vaccinated with a substance that can be produced precisely in such a way that people, thanks to this vaccination, will be immune to being subjected to the “madness” of spiritual life. He would be extremely smart, but he would not develop a conscience, and that is the true goal of some materialistic circles.

    With such a vaccine, you can easily make the etheric body loose in the physical body. Once the etheric body is detached, the relationship between the universe and the etheric body would become extremely unstable, and man would become an automaton, for the physical body of man must be polished on this Earth by spiritual will. So, the vaccine becomes a kind of ahrimanic force; man can no longer get rid of a given materialistic feeling. He becomes materialistic of constitution and can no longer rise to the spiritual “.

    Rudolf Steiner (1861-1925)

  69. Kneel says:

    “Anyone who believes in the premise of the OP has shit for brains.”

    Clearly Fauci believes it – why else would he suggest that people who have gotten the vaccine still need to wear masks, can’t sit down at an “inside” restaurant etc etc. Surely if it “worked” it would provide immunity and hence no need to that individual to obey the restrictions?
    Which I believe was the source of the premise of the OP.

    “The effect is to completely discredit Catallaxy Files as an authority on anything.”
    I wasn’t aware that Catallaxy Files ever claimed to be authoritative on anything, let alone medicine – except perhaps the odd nut-job like yourself who seems to think that “authority beats facts”. Please feel free to cite the Cat claiming authority on COVID, or anything else really.

    It may also pay you to have a look at the Just The News link I posted in the ovva fred.

  70. Kneel says:

    “It may also pay you to have a look at the Just The News link I posted in the ovva fred.”

    Just to save you the odd mouse click…

    https://justthenews.com/accountability/media/desantis-and-doctors-accuse-media-big-tech-hiding-harm-covid-restrictions

  71. Lee says:

    Bill Gates says Pandemic 2 is coming and it will get Taiwan, New Zealand and Australia, this time.

    Is that a threat or a promise?
    What an evil old POS.

  72. DP says:

    Dear Currency Lad

    Graphs of all-cause mortality and excess mortality compared with the average of the previous 5 years for England and Wales, with the peaks for Spring 2020 and Winter 2021 aligned are at:

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/51113370899/in/dateposted-public/

    Currently they show little difference in the progress of deaths over time. 2020 benefitted from neither vaccines nor face nappies (mandated on 24 July 2020, at the height of summer) and the pretty normal progress of E & W mortality over the summer – see earlier two graphs for 2015, 18, 20 and 21 and earlier still 2010-2021. The common factors are lockups, hand washing and social distancing, but the curve of the 2021 graph for all-cause and excess mortality are similar to previous years, apart from a fairly modest rise in deaths compared with 2015 and 2018, the last two ‘bad’ ‘flu years, which suggests negligible benefit from those impositions, and the full costs, including extra deaths from existing and undiagnosed treatable conditions, and general ill-health due to the population-wide stress and reduction in incomes, have yet to be quantified.

    Last year some 75,000 extra deaths occurred compared with 2018 (including the 53rd week for 2020). Those deaths were brought forward from the future, which is now, which means we can expect there to be a lot fewer deaths (approximately 105,000, including 30,000 in winter 2021) over the coming months and years.

    The first wave of the epidemic ended in June 2020, with deaths following a normal summer pattern. The second wave started around mid-October and ended at the beginning of March this year. Absent a wuhWHOflu2 or some other catastrophe – say, fatal reactions to some vaccine or other – England and Wales deaths should follow a similar pattern to previous late springs to late autumns, probably with a minor reduction in deaths because of those 105,000 excess deaths. There should be a noticeable lack of deaths in the 2021/22 ‘flu season, as those deaths last year show up as deaths-not-happening-this-year-because-they’ve-already-happened. Doubtless this will be hailed as a victory for the government, the NHS and vaccination. Lordships, knighthoods, gongs and noble peas prizes all round.

    The 2020/21 excess deaths graph by age group shows that the 0-44 years’ group are largely unaffected, otherwise deaths stack by age in both waves, with the 85+ bearing the brunt despite comprising about 1.4 million souls, compared with 3.5 million in the 75-84 group, 5.8 million in the 65-74 group and 15.3 in the 45-64 (20 years) group.

    Excess deaths are set to plummet as the very high deaths from week 14 last year affect the 5 year average this year.

    Next week’s graph could look very interesting.

    DP

  73. rickw says:

    Bill Gates says Pandemic 2 is coming and it will get Taiwan, New Zealand and Australia, this time.

    Is that a threat or a promise?
    What an evil old POS.

    Hopefully the prick will croak soon.

  74. Lee says:

    Hopefully the prick will croak soon.

    I don’t like to wish ill of people normally, but in Gates’s case I agree.
    It would be ironic and fitting if the coronavirus did him in.

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