Thank you, Catherine McGregor

This fusillade is superb. Read it all. Keep your tears to yourself, Mr Morrison. Defend our men.

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104 Responses to Thank you, Catherine McGregor

  1. Tintarella di Luna says:

    What a disgrace! The rule of law has been dismantled by politicians from the Prime Minister down.

  2. Knuckle Dragger says:

    Brilliant by McGregor. Loved every word, and in particular this nation’s lionising of not the people thrown under the bus, but of those including ‘a has-been comedienne with a battleship mouth and a rowboat brain’.

    That’s you, Szubanski.

  3. Herodotus says:

    Some of us know, and care. Thanks to you all, and thanks to Ms. McGregor for a wonderful speech.

  4. Dan4eva says:

    Thank you Ms McGregor from an ADF family

  5. candy says:

    This week I felt utter disgust at the theatrical posturing of a millionaire CEO resplendent in white crying about being sacked over Cartier watches. I’ll give you the big tip: the Taliban didn’t need watches, because they had time on their side,” she said.

    I think that is churlish silly talk. I’ve always liked Ms McGregor, a kind and dignified demeanour and quite ladylike, a supporter of her ADF mates always and pro Australia, but why say something like that. One could ask – what is Ms McGregor’s net worth?

  6. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    ‘a has-been comedienne with a battleship mouth and a rowboat brain’

    That’s Keatingesque, which I mean in a good way. I enjoyed coverage today from one of the networks of Andrew Peacock’s passing, including the fine tag “The Sunlamp Kid” from Paul Keating in the heat of battle at the time.

  7. Albatross says:

    Troon.

  8. Albatross says:

    quite ladylike

    Hahahahahaha! GROSS.

  9. Barry Bones says:

    Agreed – well said

  10. FlyingPigs says:

    C.L., thanks for posting McGregor’s comments.

  11. GE says:

    A very powerful speech by McGregor. I hope the government is listening.

  12. BrettW says:

    I must have missed the Government or AG office saying they were investigating very obvious and serious leaking in relation to evidence and phone recording of Ben RS. The leaks can only have come from the “elite” top secret investigation team.

  13. kaysee says:

    Excellent response from McGregor to the farce that has been playing out in the country. The troops feel betrayed, and rightly so, while the gutless government panders to the woke left.

  14. DM OF WA says:

    I watched Catherine McGregor’s moving commentary on Sky News this morning and was very impressed. Glad this site picked it up.

  15. Clam Chowdah says:

    I must have missed the Government or AG office saying they were investigating very obvious and serious leaking in relation to evidence and phone recording of Ben RS. The leaks can only have come from the “elite” top secret investigation team.

    The AFP. The cops all have close relationships with the press.

  16. Albatross says:

    Great stuff. A lecture from a Troon on the masculine virtues, hot on the heels of a lecture on Catechism from an abortionist:

    https://thefederalist.com/2021/04/16/vatican-invites-abortion-advocate-chelsea-clinton-to-talk-about-health-and-the-soul/

    Thanks Conservatives(tm)!

  17. MatrixTransform says:

    Well.

    a straight while male couldn’t have said it in this day and age could they

    FFS

  18. Baa Humbug says:

    I just watched that monologue by McGregor on YouTube and came to the Cat to suggest you watch it as well, but voila’ it was the top post.

    To those who are dissing that monologue…..GFY.

  19. MatrixTransform says:

    moar pantomime

    “Welcome to Australia in 2021. A nation that is now so lacking moral ballast that we believe Christine Holgate and Magda Szubanski are ‘brave’ while we vilify men who have faced a deadly enemy in extreme conditions – toxic masculinity apparently”.

    said the bloke in a dress and pumps

  20. Albatross says:

    MatrixTransform says:
    April 17, 2021 at 9:38 pm
    moar pantomime

    Yup.

  21. RobK says:

    Well said McGregor

  22. GE says:

    And qualified to say it

  23. MatrixTransform says:

    And qualified to say it

    bravest woman evah !

  24. Albatross says:

    I hope all of you are sitting your sons down, and showing them this exceptional, brave woman’s speech.

    “Look boys: one day you might be lucky enough to marry a woman just like this – or you might even grow up to be just like her. It’s wide open.”

    Great stuff and a great example for our sons. Absolutely stunning and brave!

  25. MatrixTransform says:

    snap

  26. MatrixTransform says:

    listen to you people fall over yourselves to endorse these words.

    that you can’t utter yourselves.

    they have to be said by a brave ‘woman’ before you bring yourselves to to speak it

    watching you all cheer and wave your virtue flags

    you may as well cut your own dicks off

    having the court jester speak for you doesn’t raise your status

  27. calli says:

    And we have finally arrived at Peak Clown.

    A man who believes he is a woman saying things that no man dare say. Because he’s a woman. But no woman dare say it either. Because they’re conservative women.

    But he can say it because he’s a conservative man who believes he’s a woman.

    Have I got that right?

  28. Clam Chowdah says:

    It’s quite the paradox. The political machine has done a lot of damage to the reputation of the SASR and Australia. Own goals to the left and right.

    On the other hand, footage of summary executions of prisoners demand investigation and trial. Without question. Anyone who disagrees with that is ethically compromised.

  29. Clam Chowdah says:

    “Look boys: one day you might be lucky enough to marry a woman just like this – or you might even grow up to be just like her. It’s wide open.”

    Marry a WOMAN like this? Are you fucking retarded?

  30. entropy says:

    A man who believes he is a woman saying things that no man dare say.

    to be fair, Calli, Ms McGregor has had the sausage and eggs removed. That is quite a massively greater bit of commitment than the usual transgender “sportswoman”.

    /crosses legs

  31. Albatross says:

    Clam, McGregor is a gorgeous woman with a feminine penis. Any man would be lucky to be married to a beautiful, strong, stunning woman like her. Wash your mouth out!

  32. C.L. says:

    I had hoped the discussion might revolve around McGregor’s arguments.

    … footage of summary executions of prisoners demand investigation and trial.

    What footage of “summary executions of prisoners”?

  33. MatrixTransform says:

    But he can say it

    truth is Calli, anybody can say it but most are too shit-scared

    another truth.
    they’re shit-scared of the the brave cross-dresser
    not the one talking today
    the other one that’s bitching and moaning about pronouns

    in a couple of years we went from same-sex plebescite to being told what to say, do and think by rainbow people

  34. MatrixTransform says:

    I had hoped the discussion might revolve around McGregor’s arguments.

    unless McGregor has a uterus she can’t be taken at her word

    what’s so difficult to get ?

  35. MatrixTransform says:

    actually, lemme tell yous what’s difficult to get …

    a uterus when your’e a biological male

    …or the moral high-ground when your’e a biological bull-shitter

  36. MatrixTransform says:

    Why do I find myself thinking about Chomsky?

  37. calli says:

    I had hoped the discussion might revolve around McGregor’s arguments.

    And it can and should.

    However, my point was that in the current climate, arguments don’t matter. Like voting ( if you believe the manipulations of Nov 2020) doesn’t matter.

    All that matters is identity. Hence Peak Clown.

  38. Louis Litt says:

    Matrix spot on. I remember seeing the McGregor exhibitionist go on about the use of Canibas – that
    S what it’s called dope – but all of my life if a policeman , priest speak about its dangers they were ridiculed .
    Wake up Oz.
    ,

  39. jupes says:

    On the other hand, footage of summary executions of prisoners demand investigation and trial.

    Clam must have a scoop!

  40. FlyingPigs says:

    C.L.

    Every Prime Minister and Minister for Defense since, and including, John Howard should apologize to every ADF person that has served in Afghanistan.

  41. jupes says:

    I had hoped the discussion might revolve around McGregor’s arguments.

    McGregor’s rant was first rate. Superb in fact.

    It is just a shame that it only comes from a tranny. Where are the current day Bruce Ruxtons?

  42. Rex Anger says:

    Thank you Catherine.

  43. The Beer whisperer says:

    Not buying it. Sounds like a strategic move to win the hearts and minds of those she hates.

    Lets see some consistency first.

  44. chrism says:

    what new further possible permutations are possible?
    the Taliban opening a centre for reproductive rights?

    a flying squad of gender diverse interpretive dancers ready to be parachuted into Afghan conflict zones to personify artistically the lived experience of victims identified by your ALPBC?

    I have a hope that perhaps Greg Domasciewicz (of the pig-head & Jayden Leskie saga) and the collective incestuous morons of their outbackistan will pop up over there, along with some cultural marxists, and take on really tearing a new one spiritually for the Taliban by replacing their monolithic cultural neanderthalism with a more viral worse set of memes, so they can suffer like the reset of us, but unfortunately I don’t think they are going to go away or lose

    I’m growing my beard & have my copy of the Q book

    allah is great

  45. Davey Boy says:

    Scotty’s feelings don’t care about Catherine’s facts

  46. Tony Rooney says:

    Great speech McGregor.

    It’s a PB.

    Way better than your previous best script. You know the one “The standards you walk past” Great speech.

    How’s that working out for Karel Dubsky?

    If anyone wants to know specifically the point when the presumption of innocence was abandoned in Australian society you only need only ask McGregor, Morrison or Karel Dubsky.

    I hope Dubsky gets a shout out on ANZAC Day from Morrison as per the current SKY directive from McGregor.

    Horribly disappointed to see in that in the Sky monologue McGregor was sans pearls. Shocked even.

    McGregor totally rocks the pearls.

  47. Albatross says:

    McGregor totally rocks the pearls.

    Jesus Christ dude. Disgusting.

  48. Rex Anger says:

    Point well made, Tony.

    I had forgotten about that.

    Broken clocks still get it right twice a day, though?

  49. BorisG says:

    they have to be said by a brave ‘woman’ before you bring yourselves to to speak it

    This isn’t fare. many people here have expressed similar views. But it is very different when said publicly by a person who has a public platform.

  50. Tony Rooney says:

    R

    ex Anger says:
    April 17, 2021 at 11:58 pm
    Point well made, Tony.

    I had forgotten about that.

    Broken clocks still get it right twice a day, though?

    That Christian Porter can be gone after or that Cardinal Pell did porridge. The genisis of that can be firmly sheeted home to Morrison’s speech that McGregor authored.

    Before Pell, and well before Porter was Dubsky.

    Great speech by McGregor on SKY. It’s all true. But McGregor can go and get well and truly fucked in his defence of BRS, because he never spoke up for Dubsky.

    BRS, Dubsky, Pell and Porter.

    Grist for the same mill.

    McGregor had a serious part to play in that.

    Great speech. Enjoy the cricket commentary also.

    First they came for Dubsky..

    But I wasn’t Dubsky…

    There’s McGregor’s problem.

  51. BorisG says:

    And I don’t care if it is man, woman, trans or whatever. But the right just engage in identity politics, just like the left. Disgusting.

    I agree with CL.

  52. C.L. says:

    That Christian Porter can be gone after or that Cardinal Pell did porridge. The genisis of that can be firmly sheeted home to Morrison’s speech that McGregor authored.

    It’s McGregor’s fault that Pell was imprisoned?
    That’s a bigger stretch than Magda Szubanski in Kylie Minogue’s hot pants.

  53. BorisG says:

    I had hoped the discussion might revolve around McGregor’s arguments.

    Had hoped… A vain hope nowadays on cat.

    Sad.

  54. Amortiser says:

    On the other hand, footage of summary executions of prisoners demand investigation and trial. Without question. Anyone who disagrees with that is ethically compromised.

    You are obviously unfamiliar with the Geneva Convention. There is no protection for un-uniformed combatants and for very good reason. David Hicks should thank his captors rather than condemn them. They could have rightfully shot him on the spot or done so after interrogation.

    War is a dirty business and it is made more so by combatants who cannot be identified as such.

    The worst thing these troops are guilty of is failure to comply with rules of engagement which are designed to make our soldiers’ survival as difficult as possible.

  55. Tony Rooney says:

    C.L. says:

    April 18, 2021 at 12:37 am
    That Christian Porter can be gone after or that Cardinal Pell did porridge. The genisis of that can be firmly sheeted home to Morrison’s speech that McGregor authored.

    It’s McGregor’s fault that Pell was imprisoned?
    That’s a bigger stretch than Magda Szubanski in Kylie Minogue’s hot pants.

    You might be time poor. Here’s a transcript of McGregor’s second best work. It’s a transcript. I find it faster to read a transcript than sit through a video. You might be in the same boat.

    If you don’t think McGregor’s work substantially challenged ‘the presumption of innocence’ as it was previously understood. Get back to me.

    I really couldn’t give a rats arse what McGregor does with his dick on his day off.

    He screwed Dubsky.

    If you can’t see the parallels between what happened to Pell and Dubsky, you’re really not looking hard enough.

  56. C.L. says:

    I’m familiar with Morrison’s remarks.
    I can’t see any authorial reference to McGregor.

  57. FlyingPigs says:

    C.L. says:
    April 18, 2021 at 12:37 am
    That Christian Porter can be gone after or that Cardinal Pell did porridge. The genisis of that can be firmly sheeted home to Morrison’s speech that McGregor authored.

    It’s McGregor’s fault that Pell was imprisoned?
    That’s a bigger stretch than Magda Szubanski in Kylie Minogue’s hot pants.

    C.L.

    you may find Tony Rooney’s condemnation of McGregor, whilst supporting his commentary as you posted above, goes back to McGregor’s time with the other high heel wearing skunt who came after and destroyed Dubsky

    If I may venture to say Tony Rooney is merely reflecting upon the abuse that has been subjected upon some folk, “BRS, Dubsky, Pell and Porter”, by people that have, maybe, abused their position and found scapegoats to cover their position.

    Thats All.

    I think I understand what Tony Rooney is saying and if I have mistaken that then I apologize to Tony R.

  58. Tony Rooney says:

    2013.

    My Bold.

    Earlier today I addressed the media and through them and the Australian public about ongoing investigations in to a group of officers and NCO’s who’s conduct if proven, has not only brought the Australia Army into disrepute, but has let down everyone of you, and all of those who’s past service has won them the respect of our nation.

    McGregor’s work.

    Poor show.

    Unforgiveable.

  59. FlyingPigs says:

    C.L. says:
    April 18, 2021 at 1:10 am
    I’m familiar with Morrison’s remarks.
    I can’t see any authorial reference to McGregor.

    C.L.

    They were peas in a pod back then.

    The most disgraceful…….

    Lucky if we have Payne submarines in 2060.

    Cocksuckers in Parliament and control that set out to destroy.

    C.L. I also have no respect for McGregor what so ever and appreciate what you reported

    FFS

  60. Tony Rooney says:

    C.L. says:
    April 18, 2021 at 1:10 am
    I’m familiar with Morrison’s remarks.
    I can’t see any authorial reference to McGregor.

    Look harder.

  61. Rex Mango says:

    calli, you got it right.

  62. FlyingPigs says:

    That David Morrison was ever appointed as a Lieutenant-General is a fucking indictment on the rent boys in Australia’s so called Defense structure.

  63. FlyingPigs says:

    Talk to Bernard Gaynor

  64. BorisG says:

    Speechwriters usually write what they are ordered to write. When Howard or Abbott or Rudd gave a speech, and we did not like something we did not blame some speechwriter.

  65. FlyingPigs says:

    BorisG says:
    April 18, 2021 at 2:15 am
    Speechwriters usually write what they are ordered to write.

    Funny, that’s what Goebbels said.

  66. Tony Rooney says:

    BorisG says:
    April 18, 2021 at 2:15 am
    Speechwriters usually write what they are ordered to write. When Howard or Abbott or Rudd gave a speech, and we did not like something we did not blame some speechwriter.

    So the dispute regarding the authorship of the “Redfern Speech” between Don Watson and Paul Keating never happened…

    Iwill tell you for certain. McGregor was entirely responsible for the ‘standards you walk past speech’. To give him some credit. Morrison was always good for a stern expression though.

    OK.

    Thanks awfully much for your contribution Boris.

    Whatever.

  67. Tony Rooney says:

    Great Don Watson speech by the way.

    It was truly aspirational. Back in 1992 we all believed in it. It’s what we all wanted.

    30 years on.

    No change.

    I think the aspiration in spite of the evidence remains undiminished.

    We’re good like that…

  68. FlyingPigs says:

    Tony Rooney says:
    April 18, 2021 at 2:48 am

    nah

    the best ccp bloke was that blf wanker in sin sity back in the 1970’s.

  69. FlyingPigs says:

    i met a bloke in kanbra who came out of redfern.

    found out he killed his missus.

    great elder

  70. egg_ says:

    MaNuEl Ute was second to comment in a military c0ck-in-a-frock thread?

    Quelle surprise.

  71. win says:

    I was struck by the contents of this speech n ot the gender of Catherine McGregor. And will be out front with a light come the 25th.

  72. Fair Shake says:

    Win @ 5:43

    Agree. The content of the speech is important and to be applauded.
    Afghanistan war was never going to be won by the US. I expect every Australian SAS soldier knew this. To do their duty repeatedly and still know this takes it another level of bravery and commitment.
    As for the Brereton report. We contributed to this shitholification. Australia not wanting to manage prisoners as we did not want an Abu Graib prison situation, handing said prisoners over to Afghan police who in turn release them back to fight again. FFS it’s no wonder some soldiers came up with more permanent solutions. The report, conducted in air conditioned isolation over a protracted period at their own pace sets a new low watermark for our Armed Services. These incidents don’t happen in a vacuum. Dutton and Hastie need to get the lead out and bring this to a conclusion.
    If it were up to me I would thank them all for their service, give them more honours and make sure we are suited up for the main game coming soon to a disputed area near you.

  73. Mater says:

    I’m familiar with Morrison’s remarks.
    I can’t see any authorial reference to McGregor.

    CL.

    Question:

    Noting you were the speech writer for every Chief of Army from 1999 to 2014, what are some of your favourite speeches from your career?

    Answer:

    Peter Leahy was the most influential mentor and leader I worked for. He delivered a speech to the Navy’s maritime conference in 2004 about the important role of land forces in littoral manoeuvre. The First Sea Lord was on the same platform and sent the boss a note saying it was the best exposition of maritime strategy he had heard from an Army officer. Of course, David Morrison’s remarks about bullying and harassment received enormous attention and went viral on YouTube. But I don’t feel any professional satisfaction about that. It was a short sharp polemic and wasn’t really a speech – more like an extended campaign commercial. I laboured over much better texts than that which are long forgotten! Such is the fate of a speech writer.

    That being said, I put Catherine’s comments as being about 95% correct.

    I take the implication that maybe, perhaps, possible people went a little bit wrong because of long deployments and a perception of pointlessness, to be rather insulting to a professional organisation such as SASR. This is the Army we are talking about. Getting fucked around and bored (in quick succession) comes with the territory. If people strayed off the reservation, even slightly, it shouldn’t be used as an excuse, especially when our best are involved. People need to stop using this as an excuse…because it isn’t.

    What he/she and Jimmy Hammett said about SF being used for Infantry roles was 100% spot on. However, if SASR was misemployed, it’s because they wanted to be, or needed to be, in order to justify their presence. Every unit wants a guernsey on a deployment, and if there isn’t a role, by God, they do their best to make one. This is universal.

    I’ll reiterate, an awful lot of what he/she said was absolutely spot on, especially in the last 3/4 of the spiel.

  74. Roger says:

    Noting you were the speech writer for every Chief of Army from 1999 to 2014, what are some of your favourite speeches from your career?

    Just a tangential thought:

    If a General can’t write his own speeches perhaps he shouldn’t be promoted to Chief of Army.

    It’s not that hard.

  75. Dot says:

    that
    S what it’s called dope – but all of my life if a policeman , priest speak about its dangers they were ridiculed .

    Neither of them knew what they were talking about. The medicinal benefits of marijuana are incredible. It is somewhat nuts it is illegal, like selective Sharia law.

  76. Dot says:

    The existence at all of Army speechwriters is absurd. It’s something that belongs in Suharto’s Indonesia.

  77. Dot says:

    On the other hand, footage of summary executions of prisoners demand investigation and trial. Without question. Anyone who disagrees with that is ethically compromised.

    The law is not always the ethical standard a subjective observer has.

    Free shooters can be summarily killed, as others have pointed out. They don’t have rights as prisoners of war. They’re effectively outlaws.

    Furthermore, in the context of nation states and outlawing of brigandry and to promote ceasefires, the law is good.

    If Australian legislation has curtailed this operational liberty, can anyone source the legislation which is the legal authority regarding the legality of such actions?

  78. Shy Ted says:

    McGregor hasn’t said anything that isn’t said daily on the Cat by many posters who have far more longitudinal consistency. Mc just has a more visible platform which the LNP will ignore.
    Keep your tears to yourself, Mr Morrison. By the way, Marise Payne is the PM for women. Someone tell “Catherine”.

  79. Crossie says:

    Where are the current day Bruce Ruxtons?

    Looking after their own bottom lines.

  80. C.L. says:

    I take the implication that maybe, perhaps, possible people went a little bit wrong because of long deployments and a perception of pointlessness, to be rather insulting to a professional organisation such as SASR.

    Sorry, no. Not insulting but technically correct.
    The SAS doesn’t exist to fight long wars by itself.

    McGregor has a somewhat erratic history, to be sure, but if asked to write a speech for a superior, that order had to be followed. Not everyone is perfect. Being an SAS man photographed pretending to suck somebody’s cock isn’t anything to be proud of either. If you did that in the company of citizen conscripts during WWII, they’d beat you to within an inch of your life.

    Ad hominems aside, everything McGregor said is correct – bar one thing. Afghanistan wasn’t “Australia’s longest war.” It was the longest war involving Australians. Big and very consequential difference.

  81. bollux says:

    I can’t listen to a freak and take it seriously, sorry. Once we used to laugh at them, now we are supposed to take them seriously. If he wasn’t in a dress, no one would listen, unfortunately.

  82. Rex Anger says:

    Being an SAS man photographed pretending to suck somebody’s cock isn’t anything to be proud of either. If you did that in the company of citizen conscripts during WWII, they’d beat you to within an inch of your life

    Decompression and catharsis were not deemed a criminal acts at the time, CL. Though photographing every spare moment of down- and work-time was impossible and/or frowned upon.

    Remember that it is only now bad for military members to be caught ‘blowing off steam’ because the bugmen thought it beneficial to their agenda to make it so…

  83. Albatross says:

    BorisG says:
    April 18, 2021 at 12:26 am
    And I don’t care if it is man, woman, trans or whatever.

    I don’t care a fig for your opinion you big fake. Go ahead and keep worshipping your false idols for all I care.

  84. BrettW says:

    Was a good speech by McG.

    Rather pathetic that some here such as Albatross and Matrix spent multiple posts being negative about McG’s sexual identity rather than on the thoughts she so well expressed.

  85. Albatross says:

    sexual identity

    You’re part of the problem mate.

  86. BrettW says:

    Albatross,
    Why, because I am not thinking like a moron ?

    A person gives a good speach,supporting our troops, that most here praise and all you have to offer is multiple crude comments about McG being trans.

    I can clearly see the problem.

  87. Albatross says:

    most here praise

    Try thinking for yourself mate.

  88. Vicki says:

    McGregor’s comments were wisely and compassionately expressed.

    I have always argued that contemporary society does not recognise how the Geneva Conventions promulgated after the last world war have rendered it almost impossible for Special Forces to conduct search & destroy missions in combat zones such as in Afghanistan. These Conventions simply do not allow collateral damage to “civilian” populations, & “civilians” are an oxymoron in such situations.

    It beggars belief that we can celebrate the war service of our fathers and grandfathers in wars of the last century, which included wholesale destruction of civilian populations in Europe, and yet weep at the execution of suspects in the countryside of the Middle East.

    We are entering a new phase of international hostility – especially in our part of the world. We had better all understand the real nature of combat and adjust our military protocol accordingly.

  89. Luke73 says:

    If Sky commissioned “Latho and McGregor” (or maybe “Biff and the Tranny”) it would be the most compelling hour on Australian television by a million % and I’d watch the shit out of it. ….somebody make it happen!

  90. jupes says:

    We contributed to this shitholification. Australia not wanting to manage prisoners as we did not want an Abu Graib prison situation, handing said prisoners over to Afghan police who in turn release them back to fight again. FFS it’s no wonder some soldiers came up with more permanent solutions.

    Spot on FS.

    Releasing fighters back on to the battlefield is (or should be regarded as) the only ‘war crime’ that Australians committed in Afghanistan. Though inviting the enemy to tell “rumours” about your soldiers is just us immoral.

  91. BrettW says:

    I am guessing it is a reference to the unarmed guy being shot in the field that was shown on 4 Corners.

    “What footage of “summary executions of prisoners”?”

  92. jupes says:

    I am guessing it is a reference to the unarmed guy being shot in the field that was shown on 4 Corners.

    Except he wasn’t a prisoner and wasn’t summarily executed. He was shot in the fight through. Standard military procedure.

  93. Adam says:

    I came in here to say my bit Matrix and Albatross beat me to it.

    Well done, lads.

    To the rest of you referring to this creature as a ‘Ms’ or with the pretend fantasy name ‘Catherine’, you’re all a sad joke.

  94. Muddy says:

    Vicki says:
    April 18, 2021 at 11:35 am

    It beggars belief that we can celebrate the war service of our fathers and grandfathers in wars of the last century, which included wholesale destruction of civilian populations in Europe, and yet weep at the execution of suspects in the countryside of the Middle East.

    Information warfare now is far more complex than it was in the previous century, and arguably can influence the outcomes of armed conflict as much as, or perhaps even more effectively than, what occurs on the kinetic battlefield.

    One prominent example occurred two or three years ago when the Russians produced what they claim was footage of an armoured convoy in Syria (the exact details escape me right now), but which turned out to be graphics from a video game. By the time they were ‘fact-checked’ however, the footage had elicited political condemnation from a number of governments, and much chatter in the various western fossil media. Due to the pace of the media cycle, the ‘fact-check’ discrediting the Russians went largely unnoticed, and for all intents and purposes, the attempted deception was successful. Such incidents in the battle for influence may not achieve anything significant by themselves, however when repeated often, these minor falsehoods attain a degree of credibility.

    The concise version of what I’ve written above is that compared to a century ago, technology now not only allows more of humanity to access a greater volume and breadth of information, but via social media, also allows a degree of influence on political decision-making hitherto unimagined.

    The identity of the victims is secondary.

  95. MatrixTransform says:

    Albatross and Matrix spent multiple posts being negative about McG’s sexual identity

    There’s too much soy in your diet BWett

  96. Rex Anger says:

    The concise version of what I’ve written above is that compared to a century ago, technology now not only allows more of humanity to access a greater volume and breadth of information, but via social media, also allows a degree of influence on political decision-making hitherto unimagined.

    Also, the levels of streetwiseness and general education have been wilfully withered in the populace, in favour of indoctrination thru ‘persuasion’ and manipulation.

    If you know what propaganda is and how it presents, you learn to switch off.

    People are not taught what propaganda is any longer- The leftwits forming our Establishment now no longer stand to benefit from a ‘skeptical’ populace…

  97. Muddy says:

    The decay of analytical thought, Rex.

  98. MatrixTransform says:

    negative about McG’s sexual identity rather than on the thoughts she so well expressed.

    BrettW, don’t confuse sex, sexual identity and gender or you’ll run afoul of the social scientists, the anthro-apologists, the criminologists, the post-modernists and the lawyers.

    your problem is that you equate your tokenism with their tokenism

    but, don’t listen to me, I’m sure all your thoughts are entirely your own

    but, the fuck would I no heh?

  99. Rex Anger says:

    The decay of analytical thought, Rex.

    Yep. And the bugmen (aside from their tyrannical desires) simply cannot abide the thought anyone might possibly be wiser or brighter than them.

    Rule by tyrannical idiots. A perfect civilisational storm

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