The beaten vacc

 

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42 Responses to The beaten vacc

  1. egg_ says:

    Saline solution?

  2. stackja says:

    I am skeptical about the whole Wuhan virus crisis. I will have the vaccine to protect my elderly friends. If a problem?
    Time will tell.

  3. stackja says:

    Credlin says Australia needs the vaccine to protect people from the State premiers.

  4. Albatross says:

    This is insane if true.

  5. Roger says:

    On the other hand:

    Israel’s speedy vaccination drive helps the country suppress the virus and reopen its economy.

    Something is not adding up here. Dr. Risch appears to be relying solely on anecdotal evidence.

  6. Ed Case says:

    Getting the Vax makes the person a carrier, that’s not news, so when they’re tested of course it’s going to be positive.
    The real issue around the “rollout” is that sane people aren’t volunteering.
    Sooner or later coercion is going to happen.
    I mean, if front line Doctors aren’t getiing Vaxxed, no matter what the spin, that’s gotta be a heads up.

  7. C.L. says:

    Roger, the professor discusses Israel in the linked video.

  8. C.L. says:

    …if front line Doctors aren’t getiing Vaxxed, no matter what the spin, that’s gotta be a heads up.

    ‘Dramatic’ 80pc drop in NSW’s AstraZeneca vaccinations among health workers.

    If people can’t read between these lines, they deserve to be guinea pigs.

    The vaccine is dangerous garbage.

  9. Roger says:

    Roger, the professor discusses Israel in the linked video.

    Yes, he appears to acknowledge that Israel’s Pfizer program has been effective in gaining herd immunity.

  10. Roger says:

    Unfortunately our inept government put virtually all its eggs in the AZ basket.

  11. Tel says:

    If you check out stats from India, they started rolling out both AstraZeneca’s “Covishield” and Bharat Biotech’s “Covaxin” in mid January … but they didn’t really start to achieve sizeable numbers of doses until late February and early March.

    At the same time both the infection rate and the death rates were shooting up around late March and early April … after previously those were ramping down through the second half of 2020.

    The correlation is strongly suggesting that the vaccination program aligns with the virus getting a lot worse. Doesn’t prove one causes the other, but good enough for Climate Science.

  12. mh says:

    Getting the Vax makes the person a carrier, that’s not news, so when they’re tested of course it’s going to be positive.

    Ed, enough.

  13. MPH says:

    Albatross says:

    April 25, 2021 at 10:35 am

    This is insane if true.

    Millions of people worldwide suddenly learning the difference between vaccination and immunisation…..

  14. twostix says:

    Yes, he appears to acknowledge that Israel’s Pfizer program has been effective in gaining herd immunity.

    Pfizer’s own literature on it’s “vaccine” doesn’t even pretend to say it can prevent infection or transmission, so who and why are people pretending that it can create “herd immunity”?

    The “herd immunity”, if it has occurred, has definitionally occurred because a critical mass of people with and without the Pfizer treatment have all had covid19 in Israel now.

    Maybe some old people didn’t die thanks to the pfizer treatment, but that has absolutely nothing to do what-so-ever with ‘herd-immunity’.

  15. Scott Osmond says:

    I’ve seen them refered to as the “not-vaccines.” I think they were rushed and not enough trials for efficacy were done.

  16. Professor Fred Lenin says:

    I dont think the vaccine was ever promoted as a Cure for the Chinese Virus ,what it does is lessen the severity of the infection , hopefully it willl take the media inspired fear and panic out of it and make it ,more like the common flu . This will enable people to live lives that are close to normal ,life will never be the same as the Chinese virus is here to stay .forever .
    It is a problem I admit , but contrary to the critics ,Australia has done a very good job of minimising the effect ,and had it not been for the Andrews corrupt stuff up the effects have not been anywhere near as bad as elsewhere ,except for te financial ruin we have donewell. I shudder when I think of tird rate coutries like India ! And God alone knows whats happening in Africa .

  17. Damon says:

    You couldn’t ‘suddenly’ discover that the vaccine caused blood clots if it had been tested properly in the first place. As soon as they found it worked, it was rushed out to the public.

  18. twostix says:

    Pfizer has said repeatedly that its ‘vaccine’ – which only prevents the ‘worst’ symptoms of infection (so not a vaccine at all – but a preemptive treatment) is only good for 6-12 months, and doesn’t prevent infection, nor transmission.

    When you listen they’re all saying that exact same thing – though some others more than a little hand-over-mouth.

    This is the case for all of them. Why? Because this has been the case for every single coronavirus ‘vaccine’ that has been attempted since 1950. They’ve hit the exact same problems that they’ve hit every single time they’ve tried to create a vaccine for the common cold: mutations, can’t cross the upper respiratory barrier, terrible side effects. But this time they’re simply hand waving the problems away under the cover of desperate lunatic governments, total liability protection, and populations that have the memory span (and in 2021 collective IQ) of a goldfish.

  19. mh says:

    German scientists looking at the Pfizer vaccine under a microscope.

    They seem extremely curious of what they are observing:

    https://odysee.com/@TimTruth:b/Pfizer-vaccine-zoomed:e

  20. mareeS says:

    My husband had his shot last Thursday, as he is classed as “vulnerable.”

    I spent the next 36hrs monitoring and tending to him day and night, as he couldn’t get out of bed, and I have since been told by others that this is quite a common reaction.

    At least he made ANZAC Day this morning in suit and medals.

    I am younger, I won’t be a guinea pig.

  21. Ed Case says:

    Not a Doctor, tho I pretend to be one on the Internet.
    Was required to have a Q-Fever vax as a condition of employment 20 years ago.
    The procedure was: Blood Test to determine antibodies, if these were present then the shot couldn’t be administered, for safety reasons, plus the person would be immune anyway.
    The issue for me in particular was, my test was indeterminate, so they wanted to vax me anyway.
    Here’s where it relates to the CovidVax:
    If the test doesn’t come up positive, they administer The Vax.
    What if the test is less than perfectly accurate and people who are really Covid-Positive are getting Vaxxed?

  22. Roger says:

    Pfizer’s own literature on it’s “vaccine” doesn’t even pretend to say it can prevent infection or transmission, so who and why are people pretending that it can create “herd immunity”?

    You may want to direct that question to Dr. Risch, as he’s the one who made the statement.

  23. Ed Case says:

    Pfizer’s own literature on it’s “vaccine” doesn’t even pretend to say it can prevent infection or transmission, so who and why are people pretending that it can create “herd immunity”?

    Is Pfizer the “leaky” one?
    The deal there is that those who have had it become carriers, so, one way or another, Herd Immunity is inevitable

  24. ArthurB says:

    I have to say that I am sceptical about a vaccine for the WuFlu. I fear that the cure will be worse than the disease itself, and that the so-called “experts” who have been advising state premiers to lock their states down have made a colossal mistake.

    The attached is a video of an eminent Dutch virologist, who says that the vaccines may bring about a total catastrophe.

    https://centipedenation.com/first-column/virologist-and-vaccine-expert-geert-vanden-bossche-risks-reputation-and-career-by-speaking-out-against-administration-of-covid19-vaccines/

  25. Ed Case says:

    Don’t know about other States, but the Qld Government has unleashed a massive building program in and around Brisbane, and while building doesn’t generate much employment afterwards, it’s better than nothing.
    We’re hearing much bleating from the Tourism Lobby, including demands to freeze Wage Rises, but outside landlords, and low wage serfs who are probably getting Benefits anyway, who’s losing out?

  26. Biota says:

    mh says:
    April 25, 2021 at 12:19 pm
    German scientists looking at the Pfizer vaccine under a microscope.
    Looks like Brownian Motion to me.

  27. Andre S says:

    Expensive tokenism

  28. Ed Case says:

    They’re keeping men in work and doing things that probably shoulda bin built decades ago, and it still beats the half century or more of pouring Government money into Tourism, for very little if any return.

  29. BorisG says:

    I will suggest to Sinc to rename the Catallaxy ‘Australia’s leading conspiracy theory blog’.

  30. Leo G says:

    The correlation is strongly suggesting that the vaccination program aligns with the virus getting a lot worse.

    Dr Risch also appears to be suggesting that some proportion of the vaccinated (in Israel?) have become highly susceptible to COVID infection as a consequence of the vaccination.

  31. Gorilla Dance Party says:

    Won’t be taking the not-vax and sorry for anyone who does. The fact that they’re seriously toying with forcing people to take it makes me even more reluctant. The other day I saw Tony Blair trotted out to encourage people take it as if anyone would trust that utter scumbag.

  32. Ed Case says:

    Can a person who has already [possibly unknowingly] contracted and subsequently
    recovered from Disease X, be later safely vaxxed inoculated/immunised against
    Disease X?
    As far as Q-Fever goes, the answer is No.
    If so for other Diseases X, Y, Z, etc. then it follows that:
    If the Covid-19 testing is not 99.99% accurate, then it’s a Scandal, and the Rollout must be halted.

  33. Ed Case says:

    Flu vaxes hurt like hell, yet Scotty and the old lady who got Shots #1 & #2 didn’t flinch at all when the needle went in.
    So either they were numbed up beforehand or it was a hoax.

  34. Rex Anger says:

    Or they aren’t pissweak like you, Grigory?

  35. Ozman says:

    Harvey Risch might be recounting anecdotal information, but he is not pushing propaganda.

    Anecdotal evidence has a lot of merit. An 89 year old told me on Friday that he is not getting the injection, even though his son, a microbiologist, is going to have the experimental shot.

    89 year old’s reason for not taking the experimental gene injection: three weeks ago, a male whom he knows got the injection and was immediately hospitalized.

    Man Injected With Experimental Vaccine Hospitalized…. Remember those headlines? Of course not. Silence is golden, golden…. Especially for the criminals not informing the public that these are experimental gene manipulation injections…. but my eyes still see.

    Apparently, the victim took two weeks to recover from the experience.

    In early 2020, when the false tests didn’t show much evidence of the manufactured gene sequence for the fake COVID-19 among the Mumbai Dharavi slum population and people weren’t dying, this demonstrated the farcical pandemic is a con. Maybe an exaggeration, but I have been told plaquenil (hydroxychloroquine) is handed out like lollies to that community to prevent malaria; this must interfere with the gene sequence sought by the tests.

    Tel’s observation about India warrants major consideration: The correlation is strongly suggesting that the vaccination program aligns with the virus getting a lot worse. This is an appropriate epidemiological correlation, except it is not an epidemic, rather an indication of cause and effect; much to the chagrin of those pushing injections for profit and without liability. Silence might be golden, but not for potential victims.

  36. Ozman says:

    BorisG says:
    April 25, 2021 at 2:28 pm

    I will suggest to Sinc to rename the Catallaxy ‘Australia’s leading conspiracy theory blog’.

    What’s the conspiracy Boris? Greg Hunt and his cronies mandating experimental vaccines upon people, contrary to the Nuremberg Code.
    The leading scientists admit that none of you has isolated a virus!
    Award-winning journalist Torsten Engelbrecht (4) and independent researcher Konstantin Demeter (5) have asked the scientific teams of the relevant papers referred to in connection with SARS-CoV-2 to prove whether the electron microscope images shown in their in vitro experiments show purified viruses.

    But not a single team could answer this question with “yes” – and no one said that cleaning was not a necessary step. We only received answers such as “No, we did not receive an electron microscope image showing the degree of purification” (see below).

    Or the following:

    We asked several study authors, “Do your electron microscopic images show the purified virus (an insulation)?”, and they gave the following answers:

    Study 1: Leo L. M. Poon; Malik Peiris. “Emergence of a novel human coronavirus threatening human health” Nature Medicine, March 2020 [Nature] (6)
    Replying Author: Malik Peiris
    Date: May 12, 2020
    Answer: “The image is the virus budding from an infected cell. It is not purified virus.”
    ________________________________________________
    Study 2: Myung-Guk Han et al. “Identification of Coronavirus Isolated from a Patient in Korea with COVID-19”, Osong Public Health and Research Perspectives, February 2020 [Pubmed ncbi] (7)
    Replying Author: Myung-Guk Han
    Date: May 6, 2020
    Answer: “We could not estimate the degree of purification because we do not purify and concentrate the virus cultured in cells.”
    ________________________________________________
    Study 3: Wan Beom Park et al. “Virus Isolation from the First Patient with SARS-CoV-2 in Korea”, Journal of Korean Medical Science, February 24, 2020 [Pubmed ncbi] (8)
    Repyling Author: Wan Beom Park
    Date: March 19, 2020Answer: “We did not obtain an electron micrograph showing the degree of purification.”
    ________________________________________________
    Study 4: Na Zhu et al., “A Novel Coronavirus from Patients with Pneumonia in China”, 2019, New England Journal of Medicine, February 20, 2020 [nejm] (9)
    Replying Author: Wenjie Tan
    Date: March 18, 2020
    Answer: “We show an image of sedimented virus particles, not purified ones.”

    Remark: This publication would not have needed the inquiry, the authors openly admit here to “our study does not fulfill Koch’s postulates

    ________________________________________________
    Source: COVID19 PCR Tests are Scientifically Meaningless (10)

    With regard to the work mentioned, it is clear that what is shown in the electron micro-scope images (EMs) is the final result of the experiment, i.e. there is no other result from which they could have made EMs.

    In other words, if the authors of these studies admit that their published EMs do not show purified particles, then they definitely do not have purified particles that are claimed to be viral. (In this context, it should be noted that some researchers use the term “isolation” in their work, but the procedures described therein do not constitute a proper isolation (purification) process. Consequently, the term “isolation” is misused in this context).

    For example, the authors of four of the most important papers published in early 2020 claiming the discovery of a new coronavirus admit that they had no proof that the origin of the virus genome was virus-like particles or cell debris, pure or impure, or particles of any kind. In other words, the existence of SARS CoV-2 RNA is based on faith, not on facts.

    This is a real conspiracy against the people and not theory. The theory is that there is no evil in the world.

  37. Lee says:

    A friend in his mid-80s had a corona vaccine shot (he didn’t say which one).
    He was sick as a dog for 36 hours immediately afterwards.

  38. A lot of this stuff appears to be hyped up, ‘only a small part of the picture’ sensationalism. I certainly don’t have the expertise to analyse the ‘evidence’.
    Perhaps my decision to not have the vaccine is the correct one.
    68 and immunocompromised, I’ll still take my chances.
    …and wear a garlic clove around my neck.

  39. m0nty says:

    So much ignorance in this thread.

  40. Rex Anger says:

    So much ignorance in this thread.

    Indeed.

    And all you did was walk in…

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