Open Forum: May 1, 2021

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  1. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    That roughly equivalent to a B-Double airship doesn’t need a road

    B-Double costs $1 million summat.
    Zeppelin costs $100 million minimum, especially built in South Australia.
    Do the sums.

  2. Dr Faustus says:

    But on the topic of Zeppelins: The Hindenburg crash anniversary is in two day time [May 6, 1937]

    Not helpful.
    The future of the Australian Zeppelin industry hinges on SunnyHydrogen – now with extra Molecular Lifting Power.

  3. Top Ender says:

    Warren Mundine: You won’t end bigotry with more of the same

    We need Critical Race Theory out of our schools, because there is simply no way you can beat bigotry with more bigotry.

    Warren Mundine

    HERALDSUN.COM.AU

    When you centre race as a basis for your theory, when you’ve forgotten the words of Martin Luther King Jnr: “I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the colour of their skin, but by the content of their character”, then you end up in a dead-end street.

    I come from a family who fought racism. We based our lives on King’s “I Have a Dream” speech. We believed every human being is a child of God. That we’re all brothers and sisters. That you should treat all people with love and respect.

    Of course, we weren’t immune from racism, ignorance and hate. We lived under a system of racial segregation until I was 13 years old. We had to confront and fight against it. But you don’t defeat racism, ignorance and hate, with racism, ignorance and hate.

    That’s why I oppose “Critical Race Theory”. The new eugenics of our time.

    CRT says “systemic racism” is permanently ingrained in all our laws, institutions and customs which operate to maintain racial inequality, regardless of individual attitudes.

    CRT says white people have inherent “white privilege”, not from their life circumstances or financial situation, but from their “whiteness”. It says black people are inherently disadvantaged, not because of poverty or denial of opportunities, but from having dark skin. CRT says Barack Obama’s daughters — from a wealthy family, with the best education in the world and for whom no door is closed — are disadvantaged; but a white child from a trailer park in rural Alabama with a meth-addicted single mother is privileged. That’s nonsense. Saying that race determines your place in life is racist by its very definition.

    CRT is just another white supremacist doctrine. White supremacy says white people are superior, black people are inferior. CRT says white people are privileged, black people are disadvantaged. Different labels for the same thing. The only difference is one thinks whiteness is good while the other thinks it’s evil.

    It’s abusive to tell black children they’re disadvantaged for being black. It’s demoralising and cuts them down. Tell them they can do anything they set their mind to; because they can.

    It is also abusive to tell white children to feel shame and guilt because they possess some evil privilege.

    Recently, white male students at a Victorian school were forced to stand up in class and be labelled “oppressors”, informed the world’s evils are because of white males like them.

    It’s a disgraceful thing to do. I was horrified to read it because I experienced the same in primary school years; except then it was brown and black children singled out. What happened to me in the sixties cannot be undone by doing the same thing to others. You end up in a circular prison of hate. You don’t defeat bigotry with more bigotry.

    It ignores all historical facts to say white people are the only group who’ve ever done wrong; as if only Europeans and their empires had slaves or invaded and colonised other countries. You’d be hard pressed to find any society in history that didn’t have slaves; be they Arab, African, Asian, South and Central American, North American, Pacific Islanders. Plenty of non-European kingdoms and empires across the world have invaded and colonised others.

    This wasn’t an isolated incident. Students across Western societies are being indoctrinated in this bigoted ideology. A few weeks ago, Sydney primary school students made posters with slogans “White lives matter too much”, “End white supremacy” and “Stop killer cops”, parroting the Black Lives Matter movement.

    Once an obscure academic theory, CRT now infects everyday life, crippling educational institutions and corporates, supported by cancel culture. We now live in a world where people who say the wrong thing (even from decades ago) are made to recant and apologise, people shut their mouths for fear of losing their jobs and corporations and sporting codes take orders from a far-left political movement, all under attack from witch-hunters happy to destroy lives. Like some Stalinist/Maoist pantomime.

    CRT crusaders should learn the history of humanity. It never ends well when you need fear and indoctrination to make people support you. Look at just about every autocratic monarch and dictator in history. Time catches up with them all. CRT crusaders have become the very people they say they’re fighting against.

    In my family we never saw ourselves as victims. We never saw any person’s skin colour as making them an oppressor. It was their character and actions that were important. Our house was filled with people of all backgrounds, Indigenous, Chinese, Indonesian, Indian, Croats, Germans, English, Irish, white Australians, Malays and people of all religions, J ews, Christians, M uslim, atheist, Buddhist. We didn’t hate people with a different opinion than ours. We saw all of this as an opportunity to educate and, more importantly, to learn.

    That’s the kind of world I want to live in. Not one ruled by racist dogma. We need CRT out of our schools, corporates and institutions.

    Nyunggai Warren Mundine AO is author of Speaking My Mind and Warren Mundine – In Black and White

  4. calli says:

    hinges on SunnyHydrogen – now with extra Molecular Lifting Power.

    The Express Elevator to Heaven.

  5. Dot says:

    Sunny Hydrogen?

    Or Angry Protons?

  6. The Barking Toad says:

    The Oz reckons Mrs Gates is in line for $84B settlement now she got sick of Billy boy and his wokeness and ambition to be the saviour of the planet.

  7. Knuckle Dragger says:

    ‘Rex at 11:52.’

    Yup.

    I never use cruise control, because it’s positively beastly, it’s shit and you’re not driving any more, just steering.

    All that other stuff plugged into cars under the guise of ‘safety measures’ just disguises incompetence.

  8. Terry Pedersen says:

    Huge enough.

    No. Not much at all. Like a 3.5m cube of water. Smaller than most back yard pools.

    Lol. No. Try again.

  9. dover_beach says:

    Listening to Baris and Barnes atm. They are discussing the release of US Census data which indicates an overvote in the US 2020 election in the order of 5M compared to census data. They say that since this practice began in the 60s it’s usually accurate or slightly over the election numbers, not under and out in the millions.

  10. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    The Oz reckons Mrs Gates is in line for $84B settlement

    She and the ex-Mrs Bezos should get together for a hens night.

  11. Dr Faustus says:

    The Express Elevator to Heaven.

    Sit down you’re rockin’ the boat.

  12. Knuckle Dragger says:

    ‘Zeppelin costs $100 million minimum, especially built in South Australia.’

    Couldn’t we get a dozen French ones for $400 million each* by 2062?

    They’d only go in reverse, but you know. You’d like, have them.

    *Metallic paint not included.

  13. Albatross says:

    Rex why do you hate truckers so much? Did one bang your wife or something?

  14. sfw says:

    Rorschach, one cubic metre of water weighs one tonne, so 45 tonne is 45 cubic metres of water.

  15. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Couldn’t we get a dozen French ones for $400 million each* by 2062? They’d only go in reverse

    KD – That is indeed what they do.

  16. Lysander says:

    Nice quote from the Quad:

    The promise of lasting change also came with a promise from the Aboriginal Affairs Minister, Gabrielle Williams: “the government would establish financial compensation for Indigenous people if the commission recommended this action”. So a commission dominated by indigenous people may compensate indigenous people if the evidence of indigenous people suggests indigenous people should be compensated by the government.

  17. bespoke says:

    Top Ender says:
    May 4, 2021 at 1:14 pm

    Cheers
    Warren says it all.

  18. Rex Anger says:

    Rex why do you hate truckers so much? Did one bang your wife or something?

    Who said I hated truckers? I have been licensed to drive them, albeit for military purposes.

    Might be worth asking Struth why he hates vigilance monitoring and speed limiters.

    (And if you survive that, then maybe ask him what else he’s got against trains… 😉 )

  19. Terry Pedersen says:

    Do the sums.

    Hmmm. The sums do themselves.

    Highway Contruction Costs
    1 x M1 + 1 x M2 + 1 x M5 + 1 x M7 = $ n x ∞ Bn
    Interconnecting Tunnels
    = $ n x ∞ Bn
    Urban Roads
    = $ n x ∞ Bn
    Road Maintenance & Repair
    = $ n x ∞ Bn

  20. Struth says:

    Yes girls, anyone who confronts you with facts to destroy your pompous theories and wrongology is squealing or some such rubbish.
    And worst still, might listen to country music.
    Can’t take anyone seriously who’s not listening to the classics on the ABC, I suspect, down in the cultureless and cold, windswept shit hole that is the Geelong area.

    However the fact remains.
    Road transport pays for the infrastructure it and cars use,and much more.
    Rail needs taxpayer subsidies.
    Therefore the Angry Rexter telling us how cheap it is to get containers across the country on rail, forgets to mention the cost to the taxpayer.
    The taxpayer who also requires roads, whether pro or anti truck.

    These inconvenient truths to the choo choo heads just grates at them and they spit and hiss and call names, being all piss and wind.
    As I said, I’m not against trains.
    Just against people not being honest about their real cost to operate them, and not the subsidised outcomes.
    There’s a place for trains, there really is, but the bullshit flowing from the angry one yesterday needed challenging, and with Tel’s help, he got busted.
    He doesn’t like it, and Frank’s little scout troop are finding it all too much to bare!!

    But I posted about the digital tyranny in the trucks to have a discussion about what the future might look like and how bad , stupid and dangerous this technology is.
    I am a heavy vehicle mechanic by trade, have spent my life on the road driving coach loads of people, oversize loads road trains heavy haulage etc.
    I also did a stint as a MC heavy vehicle driver trainer.
    I know what I’m talking about on this subject as much as anyone in Australia.
    Yet a boofhead like Frank thinks his ignorance to transport is no barrier to call people in the profession coke heads…….

    Now I brought this subject to the cat because the digital tyrannies now presenting themselves in all industries, is a political , totalitarian control issue.

    Being serious , the digital control of my behaviour in my work place does not make me or those around me safer, it makes it very much more unsafe for all concerned.
    You have to ask yourself who is controlling what I do, and what their real goal is.
    Professional, safe work ethics do not equal compliance to idiotic government regulations actually increasing fatigue and danger.
    Regulations written by politicised public servants who have no idea of the competition and taxes on road transport that means those wheels must be kept rolling.

    I’ll give you one example.
    The computer in the truck makes me stick to the dumb log book to the letter.
    I can already hear people like Frank thinking, “nothing wrong with that”.
    Well there is plenty unsafe and wrong with that.
    Circadian rhythm has never been considered by the log book.
    Follow the log book rules and you’ll be absolutely rooted.
    All over the shop like a mad woman’s shit.
    That’s a fact.
    As I think I have already stated, if a driver was due to have 24 hours off according to his log book, and finished work at midnight, when can he start again and legally drive for fourteen hours?
    Midnight.
    I used to leave early, go down the road and sleep when your body clock requires it and tell my log book I started at midnight, when it may have been 8 the night before, drive to midnight and go to bed.
    Not such a cowboy am I, when the reality is put forward.
    But I have survived near over 35 years of driving heavy vehicles on the goat tracks of Australia with a clean, accident free record.
    Those options have now been removed.
    I could tell you other insane and dangerous bullshit they have introduced, but compliance to idiotic, socialist, government, many times, is not the safest route to take.
    By far.
    It was not meant to be about me, but about the incoming digital tyranny, and just how bad and stupid it is.
    To not be able to control my regular sleep patterns by order of government and digitally enforced by the onboard computer meant I was not prepared to risk being unsafe.
    Some of you also might consider that yes, even us truckies don’t like feeling shagged and rooted if we can avoid it.
    And to be safe we have worked out our body clock is the most important thing to think about in maintaining your faculties somewhat.
    Not rocket science, but of no concern to government only interested in enforcing compliance.
    I bring this all up to talk more about the politics of this, that we are all going to be under extreme digital tyranny, and it isn’t now and won’t be just trucks.
    The result will be danger and devastation the likes we cannot contemplate.
    But my little experience with it was worth noting here I thought.
    And 14 months later we are getting the social credit system for outside the workplace as well.
    We are going into a living hell the likes of which cannot be comprehended by most yet, and making talk about truck versus rail inconsequential and irrelevant.

  21. bespoke says:

    Settle Albatross Arky does not approve. 😎

  22. Rex Anger says:

    But a skyful of powered balloons will solve all that, will it Grigory?

    Don’t you know the world’s Gypsum resources are finite?

    How can we possibly transition to a Blimp economy when there are no new sources left to exploit?

  23. Albatross says:

    Rex Anger says:
    May 4, 2021 at 1:31 pm

    So you like surveillance, huh? Is this a fetish? Like you like to watch your wife getting railed by truck drivers?

  24. Rex Anger says:

    Yes you girls, anyone who confronts you with facts to destroy your pompous theories and wrongology is squealing or some such rubbish.

    Welp, you have been screaming your tits off at me and the Cat for a day and a half now, so…

  25. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Meet our new breeding-zeppelin airforce.

    Skywhalepapa, the spouse of the initially controversial Skywhale balloon, was officially unveiled this morning at a dawn event outside the National Gallery of Australia in Canberra’s Parliamentary Triangle.

    New Skywhale hot air balloon, Skywhalepapa, debuts in Canberra but unfavourable weather keeps sculpture on the ground (21 Feb)

  26. Rex Anger says:

    So you like surveillance, huh? Is this a fetish? Like you like to watch your wife getting railed by truck drivers?

    If I had a wife, that might be worth surveilling.

    Vigilance is not surveillance.

    You press a button and reset a timing circuit so your brakes do not apply, on the assumption something terrible has happened to you and several thousand tonnes of metal now no longer.has any.functioning control.

    The button is not oppressing me.

  27. Albatross says:

    Vigilance is not surveillance.

    Gotcha. Internment is not imprisonment etc.

  28. calli says:

    They won’t breed. Papa has been castrated.

    He’s just a baby whale-minder now.

  29. Rorschach says:

    Rorschach, one cubic metre of water weighs one tonne, so 45 tonne is 45 cubic metres of water.

    Yes yes yes. A decimal / calc issue. Embarrassment! 🙁 [ Can I blame autocorrect? ]. Point remains: Half the size of my backyard pool.

  30. Mater says:

    Hmmm. The sums do themselves.

    Might there just be a few issues with helium (costs, capture, retention, etc) that might make widespread use of airships somewhat dubious?

    Might be worth a look.

    Hint:

    Helium is the only element on the planet that is a completely nonrenewable resource.

    Like hydrogen, its immediate predecessor on the periodic table, helium is lightweight. But unlike hydrogen, it doesn’t readily combine with other elements. So, once helium reaches the surface, it can easily escape the Earth’s gravitational pull.

  31. Arky says:

    The button is not oppressing me.

    ..
    Ah.
    That the button has convinced you that it isn’t oppressing you is part of the oppression.
    Soon you will be like numberwang: despite the fact that he was allowed to tromp through a war zone shooting tents as a young man, he now needs his car to tell him to put his seat belt on and correct his steering if he boots it in the wet, and he wants all that mandated for you too.

  32. Arky says:

    So, once helium reaches the surface, it can easily escape the Earth’s gravitational pull.

    ..
    Which is why we need to tether Monty to the top of earth’s atmosphere to stop all the helium escaping.

  33. sfw says:

    Struth, I tried to get the point across to the trainophiles that if a company says it wants drivers who can drive to their diary, it means that if you have a 12 or 14 hour book they want you to use every minute of the book regardless of how you feel. The diary can often put you in a situation where you are driving when you don’t want to because of the minimum/maximum work rest hours. A couple of years ago I did a run Wodonga, Griffith, Melb Wodonga. The pricks didn’t tell me that Melbourne would be delayed, I ran out of hours at a truck stop about 20 minutes out of Wodonga. I let the boss know earlier that’ I’d struggle to get there in the 17 hours because of the delay. He said well you can have your 7 hour break where you stop. I rang him from the truck stop and said come and get me, he refused so I said I’m parking the truck the keys will be in the toolbox. He sent someone to get me. So a stupid effin log book compliance would have made me stop 20 minutes from depot for 7hrs on a Sat afternoon. I felt fine had plenty of rest in Melb but the hours… People who don”t drive or think that a 7 hour drive in a car is hard have no idea of the reality.

  34. bespoke says:

    That the button has convinced you that it isn’t oppressing you is part of the oppression.

    🤣

  35. RobK says:

    maybe some type of wagon to carry reinforcing rods at high speed?
    To reinforce the wagon load of karens?

  36. sfw says:

    Sorry not trainophiles, monitoring systemophiles. They don’t understand how what the body needs isn’t always what their manuals and studies say it needs.

  37. bespoke says:

    Swopping button for bra is what made me LOL!.

  38. Roger says:

    It’s a looming catastrophe:

    The lower troposphere* was warmer in 1980 than it is presently.

    * Where Cats debate trains vs. trucks & other arcane subjects.

  39. Rex Anger says:

    There’s a place for trains, there really is, but the bullshit flowing from the angry one yesterday needed challenging, and with Tel’s help, he got busted.

    Yeah, nah.

    Taxpayers have had far more of their hard-earned go into your ‘goat tracks’ than allegedly into my pocket over the years. So says articles like this 2020 budget breakdown: https://www.9news.com.au/national/federal-budget-2020-infrastructure-spending-jobs-boost-announced-road-rail-projects-state-by-state/f5852689-c5f5-45d1-8d7e-e1f653c42ce

    If Struth can read, and recognise the key words ‘road’ vs. ‘rail,’ he might observe somethingnfascinating about the disproportionate amount of federal government money that goes into providing him his poor, downtrodden, extortionately taxed truckie brethren something to run on…

    Infrastructure Australia says here (p.41) that: While there is only very limited hypothecation of road-related revenue to road expenditure, the cost of building and maintaining our roads is increasing at a rate faster than road-related revenue collected from motorists in taxes and charges. Aspects of the current system of road-related fees and charges, such as fixed registration charges and stamp duty, do not provide a direct signal to road users about the cost of service provision and can encourage inefficient use of road services.

    Please, keep telling us all I am a full of shit Communist because Rail only works in a very limited space in your perception

  40. Rorschach says:

    maybe some type of wagon to carry reinforcing rods at high speed?

    To reinforce the wagon load of karens?

    Sheesh. I can’t fight this feeling that things are still being missed!

  41. Lysander says:

    Don’t you know the world’s Gypsum resources are finite?

    Ahhh gypsum. More giving than gold. 😛

  42. Dr Faustus says:

    Helium is the only element on the planet that is a completely nonrenewable resource.

    Worse, most helium is extracted from evil natural gas.
    Will nobody think of a future with no party balloons and funny squeaky voices.

  43. RobK says:

    Helium is the only element on the planet that is a completely nonrenewable resource.
    Worse, its source is evil natural gas

    .
    It is uneconomical to extract helium from the air. The major source is natural gas, which can contain up to 7% helium.

    https://www.rsc.org/periodic-table/element/2/helium

  44. RobK says:

    Snap, Dr F

  45. Dr Faustus says:

    Snap, Dr F

    We must be 97.3% correct.

  46. Rex Anger says:

    That the button has convinced you that it isn’t oppressing you is part of the oppression

    The button is a button.

    Next thing you know, you’ll be saying that blade guards on circular saws are a Marxist contrivance denying you your right to slice your dick off whenever you try to cut a plank.

    Struth has fallen into the Trotskyist trap.of making everything political.

    So what if your logbook compliance runs out. At least truckwits got somewhere to stop and sleep, or argue it out.

    Heaven forbid you get stuck 4+ hours from your endpoint on a train and your time runs out. Some poor sods have to drive out and relieve you. And you still have to drive back.

    I believe the point is made by the comment “Things Are Bad All Over.”

    Nothing political or Communistic about that, Struth. Just you and your ego. And an excuse to kick someone else’s teeth in, using a strawman about government subsidies as an excuse.

  47. Fair Shake says:

    Bill gates and his missus are breaking up as ‘they believe they cannot grow together as a couple during their next stage of their life’.

    That’s a keeper. ‘Oh Honey!!…’

  48. Struth says:

    SFW, the other technology inn the truck was also dangerous.

    The drivers I met who were still driving for this company were more shagged and aggressive than ever before.

    Let’s try what effect constant lane changing buzzer has on you.
    I was and still do cross out of lanes all the time.
    On a long straight road where no one is around I will be moving from side to side , missing the rougher spots etc.
    Also with heavy weight I like to give the tyres, bearings etc, on the left hand side of the truck a rest from taking most of the weight due to the camber of the road.
    I like to steer around carcasses, etc.
    But the lane buzzer is constantly going off and goes off when two lanes are ending as well.
    This constant crap/ buzzers going on in the truck also adds to fatigue.
    The eye camera is only there to help with insurance claims and to be able to shift blame to the driver.
    It is not perfected, and goes off for no reason, for example squinting.
    When looking out mirrors at slow speed, the thing goes off after three seconds, fair enough at high speed I guess.
    The camera is an invasion of privacy and I’m fairly sure they can also hear what you are saying, and therefore having long private conversations with your wife, while being away weeks at a time is out of the question.
    There are so many issues, but believe it or not the camera and seat buzzing wasn’t the main issue.
    It was being rigidly, digitally made to comply to the minute to the log book.
    I have never been so stuffed in my life.
    With the departure of the professional older drivers from another era, with big company Indian Hillbillies in automatic and half driven by computer trucks, I foresee a nightmare for all who will be driving on the deteriorated and shitful goat tracks of a socialist country.
    It’s going to be a blood bath.

  49. Mick Gold Coast QLD says:

    “a personal stupid irrelevant slanging match”

    Oh? It kept one opinionated toughie going for 22 of 48 hours from mid morning Sunday, 7 posts per hour, one every 8 minutes or so. All on the same subject, with a brief diversion into interpretation of the Constitution with no precedents cited for guidance.

    Some blokes know about just everything – a bit like Grigory really.

    I put my hand up to speak passionately about the patriotic stance of fellow workers marching down Queen Street Mall yesterday, to plead for … I forget now … but couldn’t get a hearing, trucks roaring past and all.

  50. Roger says:

    Bill gates and his missus are breaking up as ‘they believe they cannot grow together as a couple during their next stage of their life’.

    They certainly won’t if they split up.

  51. Rex Anger says:

    I put my hand up to speak passionately about the patriotic stance of fellow workers marching down Queen Street Mall yesterday, to plead for … I forget now … but couldn’t get a hearing, trucks roaring past and all.

    Oof…

  52. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    Just had a text from a friend who says she is glad to hear all went well and that she is sure I will be jumping fences soon. Over the worst now and my two surgeons think I may have dodged a bullet. A mess inside due to ruptured appendix as a child didn’t help matters so it was a longish surgery but going home soon. They are very hopeful pathology reports in a week’s time will be favorable.

    I really do want to thank JC for last night’s words of rational common sense for me. Helped greatly with the midnight doubts. A good man to know, I’d say, when it comes to the crunch.

  53. Struth says:

    Are you really quoting government, Rex.
    Just stop mate.
    Enough, it’s embarrassing.

  54. Leigh Lowe says:

    Yes you girls, anyone who confronts you with facts to destroy your pompous theories and wrongology is squealing or some such rubbish.

    Followed by a B-Double full of hysterical word-salad.

  55. Rex Anger says:

    So Struth, you don’t like working any way other than you used to, and you’re offended that things are different now. And you probably won’t do that again.

    Nice to see that after 48 hours of abusing everybody else and having a big old rant about the state of the nation you’ve finally settled on that conclusion. Well played.

  56. Struth says:

    Struth has fallen into the Trotskyist trap.of making everything political.

    No , socialism makes everything political.
    You’re tribal anti truck choof choof tirades are non nonsensical, and others are noticing the emotion over fact now.

  57. Infidel Tiger King says:

    Siri, define American liberalism:

    Bill gates and his missus are breaking up as ‘they believe they cannot grow together as a couple during their next stage of their life’.

  58. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    Ps, my friend is the world’s greatest dog lover and puts everything into a canine context. Her dogs leap fences like Superdog, in a single bound. 🙂

  59. Mick Gold Coast QLD says:

    Oh sweet cheeses – I prepared that an hour or so back, someone arrived and didn’t perform a final scroll back before posting.

    I thought the coast was clear – now I may just end up being bundled into the back of a very big furniture truck, by scary horrid unshaven fellows with thick sloping foreheads and few teeth, and taken back to the very big furniture distribution centre, to be disciplined. 😮

  60. Rex Anger says:

    I hope never to have a drink with you. You’re too flighty, and would probably burn the bar to the ground and go on a rampage over a fly lassing within a mile amd a half of your beer…

  61. Arky says:

    Blade guards on circular saws are a Marxist contrivance denying you your right to slice your dick off whenever you try to cut a plank.

  62. Bar Beach Swimmer says:

    Infidel Tiger King says:
    May 4, 2021 at 11:58 am
    Australians overwhelmingly support mandatory COVID-19 vaccine passports

    Same polling shows we want zero carbon emissions, but fewer than 2% of air travellers pay for the offsets

    Is that out of another Qantas focus group?

  63. Struth says:

    Can we all pay Mick from the Gold coast some attention please.
    He’s had his hand up (what I don’t want to guess) for ages apparently, and his face is all 20 past 8.

  64. Rex Anger says:

    I hope never to have a drink with you. You’re too flighty, and would probably burn the bar to the ground and go on a rampage over a fly lassing within a mile amd a half of your beer…

    To Struth…

  65. Rex Anger says:

    Blade guards on circular saws are a Marxist contrivance denying you your right to slice your dick off whenever you try to cut a plank.

    You want to make things right Arky, you’ll make that .303 video…

  66. Miltonf says:

    St Ruth are you on some kind of bender?

  67. calli says:

    The Button of Oppression and the Blade Guard of Marx.

    No such foolish contrivances on a sewing machine. One is fully exposed to the 1500rpm Needle of Freedom.

  68. bespoke says:

    Can we all pay Mick from the Gold coast some attention please.

    OK, he once again exposed your obsessiveness.
    Well done Mick. 👍

  69. Rex Anger says:

    You’re tribal…choof choof tirades are non nonsensical

    Never said I was anti-truck. That’s another strawman..

    I’m sure you’re going to say that your comment above was a typo, Struth, but I thank you for acknowledging my point.

    Now please, fuck off and go be offended at a trucking industry that was always so much bigger than you somewhere else.

    You can even have my Social Credits, if it will subsidise your Cab fare…

  70. Rex Anger says:

    No such foolish contrivances on a sewing machine. One is fully exposed to the 1500rpm Needle of Freedom

    But there is an interlock when you lift the foot up to move your clothing item underneath to start sewing.

    And if you can get a finger or other piece of humanity underneath it while it is in motion, you deserve the right to stab yourself… 😳

  71. Black Ball says:

    I note that Manchester United (spit) fans have raised their ire at the owners of the Red Devils for wanting to join that Super League. Well one in particular, who happened to be on the board of directors of the new proposed league. Stormed the pitch at Old Trafford and had the match abandoned I believe. Rozzers were called in and a few protesters had run ins. Good to see a bit of spark yet over yonder

  72. Arky says:

    Forget the blade guards.
    It’s not what I’m on about.
    Mention of the .303 is timely to the discussion.
    If Vicplod sees a .303 vid what chances he might decide that using one to make an instructional vid isn’t the usage I ticked on the licence form and I’ll be crash tackled by some tattooed idiot and prosecuted?
    Who the fuck knows?
    Which is the problem with all this creeping nanny state shit.
    Where it starts and where it ends.
    It starts with mandatory fitting of seat belts then mandatory wearing thereof, which never gets repealed even though they now mandate air fucking bags.
    So they start by doing random breathos, which primes coppers for all the idiocy we saw under the cov.
    The time to stop this shit was fifty years ago with mandating vehicles have seatbelts.

  73. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:

    ‘Growing’ together is so juvenile. Learning to cope with and appreciate each other is more to the point. Plus never losing sight of what is important to each other, what can be shared and where some breathing space is required. Sometimes people do want and need to separate but too often people do it blindly without any consequential view. Pity really.

  74. incoherent rambler says:

    Bill gates and his missus are breaking up as ‘they believe they cannot grow together as a couple during their next stage of their life’.

    Nothing to do with it.

    She stopped collecting the coupons for freebies off the cereal packets.
    She had to go.

  75. Struth says:

    So Struth, you don’t like working any way other than you used to, and you’re offended that things are different now. And you probably won’t do that again.

    You choof choof unionised koalas wouldn’t know a hard day’s work if you fell over one. That’s why you have to keep pushing the button. It gives you something to do.

    I won’t work the hours I am supposed to put in, which is about eighteen hours a day, any other way than that which keeps me safe.
    There is no option in this case but to leave the job.
    Never working between the hours of 1 am to 5 if it can be avoided, which it now can’t.
    We don’t do your piddly little shifts.
    It’s not a matter of liking, or preferring, or being offended, you idiot.

    And abusing you and Frank , no matter how important you think you are, is not everybody.

  76. Arky says:

    And you let it in one area of life, it matasticizes or however you spell that into absolutely everything until you have wankers whose fulltime job is checking that all the school teachers are appropriately trained and no that doesn’t mean checking that they can actually teach.
    Multiply this by 12 million through the entire economy and yes sir we are fuckerooed.

  77. Lysander says:

    breaking: Some loud bangs/shots heard from CIA HQ…

  78. bespoke says:

    But there is an interlock when you lift the foot up to move your clothing item underneath to start sewing.

    You know of such things, Shame on you commie Rex!

    All I know is my sewing machine is a good cook and keeps me worm at night.

  79. Rex Anger says:

    Which is the problem with all this creeping nanny state shit.
    Where it starts and where it ends.

    OK, but where did that have anything to do with a locomotive vigilance control, that is designed not to oppress me by mindless repetition of a seemingly unimportant task, but safely stop a train if I have a heart attack or pass out?

    And is a blade guard exactly that, too?

    Is it the item that is the problem, or the bugmen trying to enforce a single, particular method of use?

    As far as this Anger is concerned, unless the item is woefully unfit for purpose or catastrophically damaged, it’s not the problem…

  80. Miltonf says:

    Some problem with interlocks now?

  81. Struth says:

    All I know is my sewing machine is a good cook and keeps me

    worm

    at night.

    Does she keep it in a jar by the bed?

  82. Miltonf says:

    St Ruth mustn’t like engineers either

  83. calli says:

    But there is an interlock when you lift the foot up to move your clothing item underneath to start sewing.

    That’s for sissies!

    Real sewists string piece.

    Living on the edge, I tells ya!

    Disclosure: I have sewn without the foot. Dangerous but fun. Like most dangerous things.

  84. Lysander says:

    breaking: Some loud bangs/shots heard from CIA HQ…

    Oh, try-hard intruder is dead.

    I guess that happens when you illegally enter a place where a lot of people have guns.

  85. Mater says:

    Lizzie,
    When I was a young boy, and my mother was on her deathbed, she gave me a small brass wall hanging, which had inscribed on it:

    God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
    courage to change the things I can,
    and wisdom to know the difference.

    I stood me in good stead when I was also delivered the bad news.
    I’ve seen a version of it which goes:

    For every ailment under the sun
    There is a remedy, or there is none;
    If there be one, try to find it;
    If there be none, never mind it.

    For my cancer, I couldn’t blame a drink driver, or a negligent doctor. What was…just was. No point getting worried, it doesn’t change anything. No point getting angry, who are you going to direct it at?

    Do what you can to fight it. Fight to the last, but if it comes to it, make sure the last memories of you are a point of pride amongst your family. Under some circumstances, that is all you’ll have control over.

  86. Struth says:

    Hey Mick from the gold coast, I’m listening.
    What is it cobber?
    Your hair tints not quite right this time?
    Or the spray tan not even enough?
    The weather means you can’t put the top down on the Audi?

  87. Arky says:

    As far as this Anger is concerned, unless the item is woefully unfit for purpose or catastrophically damaged, it’s not the problem…

    ..
    The device isn’t the problem, nor is a company deciding to use it.
    It’s government regulation that’s killing us.
    But also some big companies that use regulation to suppress competition.
    Don’t know anything about trains except they are cool.
    Is the thing mandated by government? Is one company using the expense of it to suppress competition? No? Go to it then.

  88. Rex Anger says:

    We don’t do your piddly little shifts

    What piddly little shifts?

    Do you even know how 24hr rostering works, Struth? Or are you still trying to get the last word in?

    You choof choof unionised koalas wouldn’t know a hard day’s work if you fell over one. That’s why you have to keep pushing the button. It gives you something to do.

    Yep- You know absolutely nothing about the rail industry.

    And again confirmed this was always about you and your ego.

  89. Struth has a valid point about the pressure/stress of close personal surveillance every minute of the day.

    If it’s good enough for truckies, it’s good enough for every driver on the road.

    It’ll pick up ‘texting while driving’ & other practices that cost many lives on our roads.

    The cameras (all of them) linked to Vic Roads central command centre don’t link up? Then your vehicle won’t start. You’re going nowhere.

    You’ve had a 10-hour day in the office? Nope, you’re not driving home until you’ve had a mandatory 8-hour rest. (excess duty time, it’s for your safety)

    It’s for your safety. Everybody’s safety.

  90. calli says:

    breaking: Some loud bangs/shots heard from CIA HQ…

    Someone tried unauthorised access and got shot for the effort.

    I blame their new recruiting drive targeting the mentally unstable. He was keen to start.

  91. Miltonf says:

    Do you actually have a job?

  92. Rex Anger says:

    Is the thing mandated by government? Is one company using the expense of it to suppress competition? No? Go to it then.

    No. Vigilance controls have been standard fittings on all Diesel-Electric and electric locomotives and railcars worldwide since the 1950s.

    Apparently, steamers kept drivers and firemen awake. Not so much after the transition…

  93. Struth says:

    I have a good mate working out of Port Augusta on the Freight trains heading west.
    He used to drive trucks.
    Easiest and best paid job he’s ever had,…his words.
    Union is strong and all are members.
    Tell me it ain’t so Angry!

  94. Roger says:

    Dangerous but fun. Like most dangerous things.

    It’s all about the frisson.

    Dostoevsky was one of the first modern students of human psychology to explore this, both in his works and in his life.

    But enough of such frivolities…back to trains vs. trucks.

  95. Do you actually have a job?

    Struth got fukktover from every direction by the govt response to coronavirus.
    He’s done nothing wrong in that regard.

  96. Miltonf says:

    I would have thought any reasonably technically aware male would have known about loco vigilance

  97. Rex Anger says:

    That’s for sissies!

    Real sewists string piece.

    Living on the edge, I tells ya!

    Disclosure: I have sewn without the foot. Dangerous but fun. Like most dangerous things.

    I’ve only ever lashed with a needle and thread for applying patches and fixing tears. No experience with mechanical assistance.

  98. Miltonf says:

    Why don’t you do them St Ruth?

  99. Rex Anger says:

    I would have thought any reasonably technically aware male would have known about loco vigilance

    Except where there is an errant Grigroy being a wrongologist, and a wounded Struth needing to vent his spleen before his head explodes.

  100. Struth says:

    Do you actually have a job?

    Not now.

    I’ll look again soon.
    I’ve been offered work I now won’t do.
    Touring Central Australia.
    People would be getting the truth this time.
    I shouldn’t be doing it.
    I hate Australia and most Australians after the reaction to the coup d’etat.
    I’m not in a tour driver mood.

  101. Miltonf says:

    My grandfather explained it to me when I was 11 or 12

  102. Miltonf says:

    Oh ok

  103. Woolfe says:

    All the best Lizzie, hope you get home soon, if not already.

  104. Struth says:

    Tell me it ain’t so angry?

  105. Rex Anger says:

    Easiest and best paid job he’s ever had,…his words.
    Union is strong and all are members.
    Tell me it ain’t so Angry!

    So we’re all shit because of him in SA, then?

    I am in WA, with a different company doing different things and I am not a union member.

    I might as well form an opinion of all truck drivers based on the opinion of the one local kid driving a Woolies grocery courier who once cut me off in traffic, and subsequently spend 48hrs screaming at the first Road Train driver I encounter online about how shit and inefficient and useless and dangerous his profession is, invent several strawmen and tell him he’s subsidised to the hilt…

  106. bespoke says:

    I would have thought any reasonably technically aware male would have known about loco vigilance

    Or anyone who has a mother in-law.

  107. Struth says:

    My mate in South Australia is not shit, I never said he was.
    You are touchy and emotional, aren’t you Rex?

  108. Struth says:

    GET WELL SOON, Lizzie.
    XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  109. Rex Anger says:

    Do you actually have a job?

    Not now.

    I’ll look again soon.
    I’ve been offered work I now won’t do.
    Touring Central Australia.
    People would be getting the truth this time.
    I shouldn’t be doing it.
    I hate Australia and most Australians after the reaction to the coup d’etat.
    I’m not in a tour driver mood.

    Well, I for one am pleased that I have somehow inadvertently made good therapy for you the last 2 days, Struth.

    Now, if you wouldn’t mind being angrily unemployed at someone else for a while, I have a midnight train service to Merridin tonight. And I might even be able to book off prior to sunrise if I am lucky…

  110. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:

    The Kerry corruptocrat earning his keep

    Last week, leaked audiotape revealed that then-Secretary of State John Kerry allegedly told Iran’s foreign minister Javad Zarif that Israel had covertly attacked Syria “at least” 200 times, information that Zarif stated he previously had not known.

  111. Miltonf says:

    A bit of projection there. You’re not working and you criticise people who are just trying to do their best making a living.

  112. bespoke says:

    Tourist enjoying themselves and getting what they payed for instead of being used as a captive audience. I say it’s a good thing.

  113. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:

    was it the pool cleaner or the personal trainer?

    Melinda Gates was the one to file for divorce from Bill Gates — and the billionaire philanthropist couple apparently did not have a prenuptial agreement, court documents reveal.

  114. Snoopy says:

    I’ll look again soon.
    I’ve been offered work I now won’t do.
    Touring Central Australia.
    People would be getting the truth this time.

    I suggest you bone up on the history, geography and culture of Bali before you start.

  115. Snoopy says:

    Woolfe says:
    May 4, 2021 at 2:48 pm
    All the best Lizzie, hope you get home soon, if not already.

    Before Hairy starts jumping fences!

  116. Lysander says:

    I have a midnight train service to Merridin tonight.

    Give my regards to the lovely Mia.

  117. Mitch M. says:

    Best wishes Lizzie, Get well and stay well.

  118. Farmer Gez says:

    You’ve got to love the pure insanity of their ABC.
    Some luvvie talking on 774 about the budget suggested we have an arts bond issue that could pay 9%, so people could invest in the arts.
    Good for the arts and gender equality as 70% of arts graduates are women.

    Another economic genius lady suggested we have done well out of exporting carbon fuels but now we need to transition to exporting renewables. Putting a fart in a bottle.

    I kid youse not.

  119. Struth says:

    There’s just nothing good on the television and the weather is only now clearing Angry choo choo man.
    That’s the only reason I’m here.
    Just for fun.
    This was just winding down with a few days off after quitting the job.

    Anyone who knows what I’ve written here in the past and knows my stand on things, knows the last thing to be concerned about is transport choices when we have a full global coup d’etat happening and we are imprisoned in our country like North Koreans, ….and just like them, being fed bullshit about the scary world outside our borders that our socialist dictators must keep us safe from.
    Trucks and trains….totally irrelevant at the moment.
    It’s purely arguing about the deck chairs on the titanic.

    By the way, I do have some gigs coming up, so I’m not totally unemployed, but they are few and far between for a few months, next not for two weeks.

    But who can rely on the pub still being open, or a lock down not happening?
    I know that publican is struggling.
    Word gets around town when bills aren’t being paid.
    Now digital tyranny to enter pub or she goes to jail.
    No corruption problems are going to come out of that little system, like hell.

    Pub owners beware.
    Would money ever change hands, or personal animosities, competition, or pissed off ex customers be trying to get you in the slammer?
    How could they do that now, just how easy would it be?

  120. Infidel Tiger King says:

    was it the pool cleaner or the personal trainer?

    More likely the little boys and girls and the Satanic altar.

  121. Struth says:

    I say it’s a good thing.

    So do I.
    I’d have them in tears this time.
    Touring a fucking shit hole with shit heads.

    Nah, pass.

  122. Miltonf says:

    Farmer that reminds my of Donald Horne fuckwit in 1983 saying ‘lets have an arts led recovery’. Can never understand why some people here like him

  123. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:

    Another economic genius ladydumb bint suggested we have done well out of exporting carbon fuels but now we need to transition to exporting renewables. Putting a fart in a bottle.

    fixingly

  124. bespoke says:

    I’d have them in tears this time.

    So brave with retirees, try that shit with miners.

  125. Lysander says:

    I don’t think any Arts should get any government funding at all (and I’m a muso myself with Art painters in the family). Let private families, like the Medici’s of old, fund that stuff… demand will drive arts funding.

  126. Roger says:

    Farmer that reminds my of Donald Horne fuckwit in 1983 saying ‘lets have an arts led recovery’. Can never understand why some people here like him

    He wrote one good book that still basically summarises Australia’s predicament as a lucky country led by second raters.

    Other than that I found him generally annoying and smug.

  127. Struth says:

    So brave with retirees, try that shit with miners.

    Calm down tough guy, I was talking about exploding their preconceived ideas about our indigenous folk and other realities.
    These are expensive tours and mostly taken up by senior public service figures.
    Such as “Social Justice officers” for the NSW education system, and other assorted black arm band Marxists.

  128. bespoke says:

    BS!

  129. Struth says:

    read it back.
    You did a Frank and jumped to conclusions.

  130. Miltonf says:

    You forget Horne wrote ‘death of a lucky country’ when Whitlam got turfed. So he must have thought Gough was first rate.

  131. Lysander says:

    Can someone correct me, but didn’t Mao Tse Gough undo Australia’s recognition of Taiwan which had been in place since ’59? And has it been replaced since?

    (Unfortunately, I have this thing called “work” and I’ll check back in after an hour-long meeting). But thanks to anyone who can answer – not critical, but could start a war.. 😛

  132. Roger says:

    You forget Horne wrote ‘death of a lucky country’ when Whitlam got turfed. So he must have thought Gough was first rate.

    No…I did say he wrote “one good book”.

    He was also an editor of Quadrant for a while.

    Then he started to believe his own publicity. Never believe your own publicity.

  133. Miltonf says:

    He recognised red China in 1973 so he probably dumped Taiwan at the same time

  134. Miltonf says:

    Bulletin I think

  135. dopey says:

    Trucks vs trains. Even the penalty shoot-out will be go for three days. Sudden death might be better.

  136. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    He recognised red China in 1973 so he probably dumped Taiwan at the same time

    The same Gough who ended slavery in Australia, gave women the vote, and got us out of Vietnam?

  137. feelthebern says:

    Infidel Tiger King says:
    May 4, 2021 at 3:09 pm
    was it the pool cleaner or the personal trainer?

    More likely the little boys and girls and the Satanic altar.

    Breaking news: IT is Anne.

  138. Roger says:

    Bulletin I think

    Both, at different times.

  139. feelthebern says:

    DB, can you link to the lawyer thingy, please?

  140. Miltonf says:

    Ok didn’t know about Quadrant

  141. Roger says:

    Ok didn’t know about Quadrant

    Just checked the dates, 1964-66, so just after The Lucky Country.

  142. Miltonf says:

    Ok

  143. Cassie of Sydney says:

    Gosh, just reading back. Struth is a bit kvetchy today!

  144. Dr Faustus says:

    PM concedes ‘pretty much zero’ chance fines or jail-time will be applied

    Prime Minister Scott Morrison has defended the controversial travel ban with India but concedes there is little chance those caught travelling home will be jailed or fined.

    “I think the likelihood of any of that occurring is pretty much zero,” he said.

    So, all pain, no gain.
    Again.
    What is the point of you?

  145. Boambee John says:

    calli says:
    May 4, 2021 at 2:22 pm
    The Button of Oppression and the Blade Guard of Marx.

    No such foolish contrivances on a sewing machine. One is fully exposed to the 1500rpm Needle of Freedom.

    Grandmother was a commercial seamstress in the 1930s or so. Sewed herself to the work a couple of times.

  146. Roger says:

    So, all pain, no gain.
    Again.
    What is the point of you?

    To keep Peter Dutton out of the top job.

  147. bespoke says:

    kvetchy

    Just DDGed it LOL!

  148. feelthebern says:

    Interviewed a potential new staff member today.
    Grew up in Wuhan.
    LOL.

  149. JC says:

    We’re putting Gough Whitlam on the Tourettes list. it was a tough call, but I think we’ve now got the stage that it’s unavoidable.

  150. Herodotus says:

    Recently deceased, one of the 20th century’s finest opera singers, Christa Ludwig, had no time for the me-too movement.

    May I ask you about the “# MeToo debate”, Frau Ludwig?
    CL: The ugly women would say, “Oh, please, me too!” That’s all such rubbish.

  151. Dr Faustus says:

    Big ScoMo edging towards ripping up the Port of Darwin contract.
    A couple of tweety technical probos:

    Firstly, another dent in Australia sovereign risk.

    Secondly, a potentially huge cash handout to Landbridge to compensate for the acquisition of its contractual rights.

    We don’t do government stuff very well in this country.

  152. JC says:

    While on the subject of ALP dudes etc.

    I wonder how that nostadamus prediction is going – the prediction the ALP harridans would force out the QLD imbecile.

    I haven’t heard a thing. Anyone?

  153. caveman says:

    I hate Australia and most Australians after the reaction to the coup d’etat.
    I’m not in a tour driver mood.

    I would go on your tour, can’t be any worse than the digiknee ranger dude bagingn shit on whitey as we motored along the Kathern , he never ever thanked Mr Evinrude for powering his canoe.

  154. Roger says:

    We don’t do government stuff very well in this country.

    See above re Donald Horne and our second rate leaders.

    One day the luck is going to run out though.

  155. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “JC says:
    May 4, 2021 at 3:55 pm
    While on the subject of ALP dudes etc.

    I wonder how that nostadamus prediction is going – the prediction the ALP harridans would force out the QLD imbecile.

    I haven’t heard a thing. Anyone?”

    Umm…all quiet on the hypocritical ALP front. No protest from the usual ALP harridans. It’s only about the political side.

  156. Top Ender says:

    Gough Whitlam also pioneered powered flight in Australia; fathered 17 children, and when only 12 scored a hole in 1 in his first golf game.

  157. H B Bear says:

    What the hell? I go out for coffee and peace breaks out. It is like missing VP day.

  158. JMH says:

    kvetchy – tetchy, take your pick.

  159. Vicki says:

    Lizzie,
    There are clearly so many Cats thinking of you & wishing you well. The strange familiarity and affection that develops through such blogs makes up for the occasional spats. For me, it has been a privilege to be able to engage with some amazing people.

    You seem to have a wonderful man, who I’m sure will be a mountain of support for you. To my horror, I forgot my husband’s birthday today, until reminded by a family call at midday. He had quietly gone about work on the farm without any fuss. We are both fortunate to have such men, particularly in times when their support means so much.

    God bless.

  160. So brave with retirees, try that shit with miners.

    No need. Miners tend not to subscribe to the magic dreaming time viewpoint of the Australian continent.
    They also tend to self-drive their tours of Australia, fitting in lotsa pig-shooting, fishing & 4wd rip-roarin’.

  161. JC says:

    One day the luck is going to run out though.

    Yea and one day corn turns to popcorn. We’re 25ish million people living on a significant continent. When our below ground resources take a drubbing in terms of price, the currency retreats and we begin to sell rural produce etc., which has an excellent brand name. Despite the many obstacles put in front of us by governments , we’re great adjusting reasonably quickly to events. We’re not as quick as the Americans but we’re pretty good. To some extent we make out own luck.

    We’ll do okay provided we don’t end up being nuked by you know who.

  162. Caveman says:

    Government cracking down on home backyard vaccines.

  163. feelthebern says:

    We’ll do okay provided we don’t end up being nuked by you know who.

    The French?

  164. Dr Faustus says:

    Is Coke rethinking woke? Soft drink giant puts ‘pause’ on diversity plan requiring outside law firms ‘meet racial quotas or have their legal fees reduced’

    The soft drink giant announced last week that it was suspending its ‘diversity initiative’ after the firm replaced its top lawyer after just eight months on the job.

    Looks like Candace Owens has claimed a scalp.

  165. Keith Forwheels says:

    The French?

    Train cartel

  166. feelthebern says:

    So back to zeppelins…tech start up…zeppelin ride sharing…think about it.

  167. feelthebern says:

    Coke is so 2020.
    Fanta is the drink of tomorrow, today !

  168. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “Vicki says:
    May 4, 2021 at 4:04 pm
    Lizzie,
    There are clearly so many Cats thinking of you & wishing you well. The strange familiarity and affection that develops through such blogs makes up for the occasional spats. For me, it has been a privilege to be able to engage with some amazing people.”

    100% agree Vicki. I am lucky enough to know Lizzie personally….she’s wonderful….as is her hubby. And I agree with you about the “familiarity and affection” that most of us have for each other here at the Cat…despite the occasional and entertaining spats!

    Shalom in the house…shalom at the Cat!

  169. Keith Forwheels says:

    So back to zeppelins…tech start up…zeppelin ride sharing…think about it.

    When’s the next VC round? I’m in. Zeppo… you know it makes sense.

  170. bespoke says:

    No need. Miners tend not to subscribe to the magic dreaming time viewpoint of the Australian continent.
    They also tend to self-drive their tours of Australia, fitting in lotsa pig-shooting, fishing & 4wd rip-roarin’.

    Oh thanks I wouldn’t have known that 😎.

  171. JC says:

    Some people here seem to be always sceptical about technological advance. It appears to be understated a great deal here. The vax being a great example.

    Today, I listened to a podcast discussing new technology whereby lasers are used to scan for weeds in agricultural planting and be able to select from the good stuff vs the bad. It then zaps the bad stuff. This system has been set up on some truck-like gizmo. If it works and there’s no reason it can’t- engineers are very optimistic, it will basically illuminate the need for chems, thereby making produce more organic.

  172. Terry Pedersen says:

    I thought the coast was clear – now I may just end up being bundled into the back of a very big furniture truck

    Lifted off, silently, into the night. At the end of a rope. Dangling from a blimp.

  173. JC says:

    feelthebern says:
    May 4, 2021 at 4:11 pm

    Coke is so 2020.
    Fanta is the drink of tomorrow, today !

    The Nazi invention. 🙂

  174. feelthebern says:

    Weed lasers.
    Straight out of the apocalypse, JC.
    I believer that was the working title for “The Road”.

  175. feelthebern says:

    I keep forgetting that nazi angle.
    Whoops.

  176. Roger says:

    We’ll do okay provided we don’t end up being nuked by you know who.

    Historically we’ve sheltered behind the Royal Navy & then the US navy.

    When the latter withdraws from the western Pacific we’ll have to stand on our own two feet, perhaps with some strategic regional alliances, but essentialy alone.

  177. Keith Forwheels says:

    Weed lasers.

    That’s a hard no from the Rastas..

  178. Leigh Lowe says:

    Keith Forwheels says:

    May 4, 2021 at 4:11 pm

    So back to zeppelins…tech start up…zeppelin ride sharing…think about it.

    When’s the next VC round? I’m in. Zeppo… you know it makes sense.

    Just jogged my memory.
    About two years ago (pre Kung Flu) Uber announced that they were going to introduce large-ish drones capable of ferrying two people from the city to the airport.
    Complete with Jetson’s type drawings on the press release.
    The reporterettes on the evening news lapped it up, then, quick as a flash, nothing happened.
    I reckon if you floated it as a small $50 meg IPO it would be over-subscribed by smoko on day one.

  179. Terry Pedersen says:

    Having the needle pierce through the middle of the nail of your index finger as you feed the item into the foot is not a happy experience.

  180. Keith Forwheels says:

    Just jogged my memory.
    About two years ago (pre Kung Flu) Uber announced that they were going to introduce large-ish drones capable of ferrying two people from the city to the airport.
    Complete with Jetson’s type drawings on the press release.
    The reporterettes on the evening news lapped it up, then, quick as a flash, nothing happened.
    I reckon if you floated it as a small $50 meg IPO it would be over-subscribed by smoko on day one.

    Needs lasers, then it’s a goer… for sure…

  181. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “Some people here seem to be always sceptical about technological advance. It appears to be understated a great deal here. The vax being a great example.”

    I’m not sceptical however I am hesitant about the Covid vaccinations because I think they’ve been rushed.

  182. bespoke says:

    and Bluetooth.

  183. feelthebern says:

    But JC, what happens when the Chinese hack the weed lasers & send them rogue.
    Think about it.
    Meanwhile, I’ll be up in my zeppelin, top hat & all, watching the world burn.
    No where safer than a slow moving airship during a war, hopefully filled with ultra flammable gas.
    Pure genius.

  184. JC says:

    Fourwheels

    Okay, lets say those contraptions will never happens.. large drones. They will, but let’s go with your argument in this case.

    How the fuck does that invalidate tech progress in other areas ? You’re assumptions and inference is actually quite stoopid. Nothing personal Just saying

  185. Keith Forwheels says:

    But JC, what happens when the Chinese hack the weed lasers & send them rogue.
    Think about it.
    Meanwhile, I’ll be up in my zeppelin, top hat & all, watching the world burn.
    No where safer than a slow moving airship during a war, hopefully filled with ultra flammable gas.
    Pure genius.

    It’s why we need hydrogen hubs – it’s actually a national security measure.. sssssh.. don’t tell anyone…

  186. Keith Forwheels says:

    Fourwheels

    Okay, lets say those contraptions will never happens.. large drones. They will, but let’s go with your argument in this case.

    How the fuck does that invalidate tech progress in other areas ? You’re assumptions and inference is actually quite stoopid. Nothing personal Just saying

    JC, you are likely right. In the meantime, I’ll be on Bern’s zepplin.

  187. Leigh Lowe says:

    Today, I listened to a podcast discussing new technology whereby lasers are used to scan for weeds in agricultural planting and be able to select from the good stuff vs the bad. It then zaps the bad stuff. 

    One of the Cat Agricultural chapter might correct me here, but I think it is not exactly laser zapping. I think it works like this …
    The weed sprayer has two booms. The front one has lasers and the rear one has spray nozzles. Let’s say they are two metres apart and the sprayer is travelling at 2 metres per second. A laser detects a weed (by difference from the uniformity of the crop). One second later the corresponding spray nozzle lets go a jet of spray as it passes over the detected weed.
    Uses 3/8 of half a poofteenth of weed killer as blanket spraying.

  188. Terry Pedersen says:

    Zeppelins, new air ships. The ideal mode of transport across the world for Scomo’s $2 per litre hydrogen.

  189. bespoke says:

    Yep and it’s not new tech.

  190. Roger says:

    I wonder how that nostadamus prediction is going – the prediction the ALP harridans would force out the QLD imbecile.

    I haven’t heard a thing. Anyone?”

    The Courier Mail reported today that Palaszczuk had “rushed to defend” Miles.

    Mile serves as Deputy, of course, at the pleasure of his union masters, not Palaszczuk.

  191. feelthebern says:

    Very good point.
    The taxpayer should subsidise the zeppelin industry.

  192. Keith Forwheels says:

    Very good point.
    The taxpayer should subsidise the zeppelin industry.

    Elon… paging Elon….

  193. Infidel Tiger King says:

    “Some people here seem to be always sceptical about technological advance. It appears to be understated a great deal here. The vax being a great example.”

    I won’t take the vaccine for the same reason I wont take statins or buy incontinence pads.

  194. Leigh Lowe says:

    JC says:

    May 4, 2021 at 3:55 pm

    While on the subject of ALP dudes etc.

    I wonder how that nostadamus prediction is going – the prediction the ALP harridans would force out the QLD imbecile.

    I haven’t heard a thing. Anyone?

    I said last night it was never going to happen.
    My precedent?
    Blabbersack defending Mussel-man on 730 back in 2014.

  195. Ed Case says:

    Unpacking Struth at 6.23 an:

    The reality of the Australian situation is that one type of transport does not require subsidies, pays it’s way and is far more efficient and quicker 99% of the time in most circumstances.

    No, it’s racket brought into being by Government corruption.

    That’s why the majority of freight in Australia is transported by trucks.
    It’s competitors require subsidies to stay in existence.

    Here’s the reality:
    The Oil Companies tell State Governments to jump and they respond by asking how high.
    Any fule knoweth that Rail is unbeatable for moving freight long distance, but the Oil Companies had a problem, what to do with useless refining by products such as Bitumen and Diesel.
    Solution:
    Replace Rail Freight with Road Freight and replace efficient Petrol Trucks with inefficient Diesel Trucks.
    Long Distance Trucking replacing King Rail?
    No different from replacing CFPS with Windmills and Solar Panels.

  196. JC says:

    Cassie

    Let me partially explain how some these vax advances were made.

    1. Technological advances in genome mapping etc has grown by leaps and bounds over the past two decades. It took something like ~9 months to map the genetic sequence of the first SARS. It took about 3 weeks with covid.

    2. Trump.
    The orange oaf was incredible in this area.
    Example: The FDA went to him and said it would take the standard six months to analyze data on the vaxes etc. He glanced at the data cache/what needed to be examined and said that it was bullshit. They could analyze the results/data in a few days. He managed to streamline a large number of the outdated processes applied by the FDA.

  197. JC says:

    Artie

    And that’s okay. Your body, your choice. I’m perfectly fine with that. Yea, I know it needs to be said on a libertarian blog these days seeing the losers and mentally ill this place has attracted because of its liberal commenting polices. But I digress.

  198. bespoke says:

    Replace Rail Freight with Road Freight and replace efficient Petrol Trucks with inefficient Diesel Trucks.

    Diesel motors are more fuel efficient and last longer.

  199. Dr Faustus says:

    I won’t take the vaccine for the same reason I wont take statins or buy incontinence pads.

    Rare deaths from incontinence pads?
    Sounds horrid.

  200. Nobody expected anything other than the usual left-wing free pass for Qld’s Deputy Premier.

    He’s always done one thing nobody thought was possible: He’s made Kristina Keneally look both smart & capable.

  201. Leigh Lowe says:

    How the fuck does that invalidate tech progress in other areas ? You’re assumptions and inference is actually quite stoopid. Nothing personal Just saying

    That was my comment on the drones.
    But generally I agree.
    Tech advances are here to stay, but you have to hold some PR up to the light and have a good hard look at it. Jetson’s airport shuttles fall into that category.
    I think we all embrace technology advances here.
    Except maybe things that go bing-bong if your Kenworth crosses the centerline.

  202. Rorschach says:

    Oh … I figured out where I went wrong with my 3.5m cube. I was right of course [usually am].

    A 3.5m cube [i.e. 3.5m on each side] contains 43 cubic meters of volume. i.e close to the 45 tons that the zuper zeppelins can hoist as a max weight. [At work & drive by posting]

  203. feelthebern says:

    Rorschach, would you like to join my zeppelin start up?
    We may be small, but there’s room for aggressive expansion.

  204. The in-truck surveillance got a Brisbane truckie off a charge of rope in Dubbo recently.
    Representations made to police by angry young Brittany type were not consistent with video.

  205. Keith Forwheels says:

    Rorschach, would you like to join my zeppelin start up?
    We may be small, but there’s room for aggressive expansion.

    Get in early before the bubble forms… share price inflation could be explosive

  206. Keith Forwheels says:

    Rorschach, would you like to join my zeppelin start up?
    We may be small, but there’s room for aggressive expansion.

    Get in early before the bubble forms… share price inflation could be explosive

    ** Not financial advice, cough.. cough… ***

  207. Infidel Tiger King says:

    Rare deaths from incontinence pads?
    Sounds horrid.

    It is. You’d also be mad to use statins and incontinence pads unless you needed to.

    Why would any healthy young person want a covid vaccine or be in fear of covid?

  208. feelthebern says:

    Keith, I consider you too, but you’re new around these parts.
    So would have to ensure you have the required guramba needed.

  209. Roger says:

    He’s always done one thing nobody thought was possible: He’s made Kristina Keneally look both smart & capable.

    One better; he’s made his predecessor, Jackie Trad, look like a class act.

  210. Rorschach says:

    Rorschach, would you like to join my zeppelin start up?

    I thought [entrepreneurially] that with the price of real estate being what it is, that people could sell their garage in Sydney and buy a zeppelin and equip it as mobile holiday or retirement home. [Grey Air Nomads] But then we know that it can’t actually carry the swimming pool that are a must in most places in Australia. So that is a bit of a drowner / downer. A smaller one would struggle with the water bed!!!

  211. Dr Faustus says:

    Oil Companies had a problem, what to do with useless refining by products such as Bitumen and Diesel.

    They could always stop importing the heavy crude oils they specifically purchase to make bitumen and/or diesel for the Australian market.

    But it’s easier to order governments to build roads.

  212. Keith Forwheels says:

    Keith, I consider you too, but you’re new around these parts.
    So would have to ensure you have the required guramba needed.

    Doesn’t 12 years of lurking count for anything any more… 🤣

  213. Rafiki says:

    Bespoke at 2.51

    Very good. And good too that the likes of you and H B Bean scan posts looking to find an amusing angle.
    Thanks

  214. Rorschach says:

    Get in early before the bubble forms… share price inflation could be explosive

    God it was a good day at the Cat for this type of thing!

  215. calli says:

    Shalom in the house…shalom at the Cat!

    😀

    That reminded me of Kaye, who used to comment here.

    Fight, you b*stards! Fight! I hate peace!

    She knew some arts of peace. Growing frangipannis.

  216. feelthebern says:

    I thought [entrepreneurially] that with the price of real estate being what it is, that people could sell their garage in Sydney and buy a zeppelin and equip it as mobile holiday or retirement home.

    This.

  217. Bons says:

    Has Adern’s South Pacific Sweden signed up to the Belt and Road?
    John Kerry has been invited to be Governor General I am reliably informed.
    All SP Sweden personnel working, studying or on exchange in Oz have been assigned specific intelligence objectives. Adern has modelled the strategy on that of the Japenese prior to WWII.
    SP Sweden has been designated as the CCP assembly area for the invasion of Oz.
    Adern has stated that her nation’s future support for Oz will be entirely dependant upon the level of social security paid to SP Sweden personnel living in the East Island (Gold Coast) Colony.

  218. bespoke says:

    incontinence pads

    And 90% of the Cat wake up from afternoon nap.

  219. Rafiki says:

    H B Bear of course.

  220. Rorschach says:

    Hmmm… that caravan under a Zeppelin has been done by Top Gear already.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4vMoucZWqU

  221. feelthebern says:

    The BBC would be ashamed of Top Gear now.

  222. Dr Faustus says:

    Why would any healthy young person want a covid vaccine or be in fear of covid?

    The healthy young people in my world would take it so they could travel unmolested to filthy places overseas.
    Otherwise not, unless strongly coerced.

    I suspect this is going to be government’s dilemma.

  223. feelthebern says:

    I’m referring to it’s origins.

  224. JC says:

    FMD

    Salvatore, Social Distance Martyr says:
    May 4, 2021 at 4:35 pm

    Nobody expected anything other than the usual left-wing free pass for Qld’s Deputy Premier.

    He’s always done one thing nobody thought was possible: He’s made Kristina Keneally look both smart & capable.

    Of course, it’s Queensland and the Outbacker has to chime in because… he lives in FNQ and therefore it follows he is well plugged into the politics. Lib/Lab all go to him for advice. In fact he’s known and Driller the political mufti of FNQ. Vicky Campoin writes for the Cat. Perhaps, I’ll ask her if she would mind confirming… just how afraid for his political career Joyce was after ignoring Croc Dundee.

    Salvatore at the Pub says:

    You need to get him in the pub for a beer Steve.
    I reckon he could tell some tales…

    Never had Barnaby in.
    He knows who I am though (or used to) as he rather spectacularly dropped me in it a few years ago, and was rather shocked when someone pointed out to him just how connected was the “bush publican” he’d treated with such disdain.

  225. calli says:

    The Beloved’s been trying to book in for the vax. Nothing until September here in God’s Waiting Room. Apparently the surgery is only getting 100 doses a week. Suits me.

    I told him to stand back and let all the old people go first.

  226. calli says:

    The sh*t will hit the fan when everyone getting the jab is told they need to quarantine when they get back from o/s holidays. Because the jab doesn’t prevent you from getting WuFlu nor transmitting it to others.

    And no, it won’t be “at home” because no one can be trusted*. It will be at limited hotels at the traveller’s expense.

    * unless they apply an ankle bracelet. The sheep may have been softened up sufficiently to accept it as a trade-off.

  227. H B Bear says:

    I won’t take the vaccine for the same reason I wont take statins or buy incontinence pads.

    Pro tip: when you really need incontinence pads someone will give them to you. Thankfully we moved on a bit since then.

  228. Nob says:

    To that “person” up there who thinks rail can replace trucking.

    Only in a private purpose-built dedicated single route railway such as the iron ore trains.

    Nobody in their right mind would commit anything time critical to the union-controlled choke points of the public rail system.

  229. bespoke says:

    I told him to stand back and let all the old tall people go first.

    You are welcome. 😎

  230. feelthebern says:

    Nobody in their right mind would commit anything time critical to the union-controlled choke points of the public rail system.

    So what you’re saying is we need taxpayer funder rail to the home.

  231. jo says:

    JC

    This system has been set up on some truck-like gizmo.

    Can it be fitted to trains!

  232. Ed Case says:

    They could always stop importing the heavy crude oils they specifically purchase to make bitumen and/or diesel for the Australian market.

    Thanks for that info.
    Is there only a couple of refineries still operating in Australia?
    BP imports all it’s Bitumen by tanker thru Pinkeba since the refinery closed down, don’t know the situation in other States, but it would be similar?

  233. JC says:

    Can it be fitted to trains!

    I haven’t read upthread so I’m not up with the inside joke. I suppose it can. Rig the fucking thing up to the Ghan and see how it goes.

  234. JC says:

    Artie

    Are you still reading the Nassim the Leb on Twitter?

  235. Mudguts hasn’t posted a personal anecdote slinging off at the style of guttering used by a random house he drove-by in the next suburb.
    At least hasn’t posted a personal anecdote of that nature for more than an hour.

    Time for the seat-shaker to be activated, the old codger may have dozed off at the keyboard.

  236. Ed Case says:

    Nobody in their right mind would commit anything time critical to the union-controlled choke points of the public rail system.

    There hasn’t been a Rail Strike in Qld in 50 years, the ARU grew so tiny, it merged with the Bus Drivers Union.

  237. Infidel Tiger King says:

    Artie

    Are you still reading the Nassim the Leb on Twitter?

    He made his tweets private.

    He went completely loopy about Covid and masks and still managed to catch it himself!

    He’s very right about some stuff, but a complete blowhard crank about other things.

  238. H B Bear says:

    H B Bear of course.

    Oi! I was at coffee and can get a doctor’s note if needed. I can get a doctors note for practically anything truth be told.

  239. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Has Adern’s South Pacific Sweden signed up to the Belt and Road?

    Too busy coping with male menstruation.

    New Zealand Book Festival Cancels ‘Harry Potter’ Event over J.K. Rowling Saying Only Women Menstruate (3 May)

    Do New Zealanders ever breed, or don’t they know how?

  240. Infidel Tiger King says:

    The healthy young people in my world would take it so they could travel unmolested to filthy places overseas.
    Otherwise not, unless strongly coerced.

    I suspect this is going to be government’s dilemma.

    That’s the only reason I would take it, but apparently that won’t make any difference to the decision to open the borders, so there is no way in hell I am taking it.

  241. There hasn’t been a Rail Strike in Qld in 50 years

    Y’all can put this one in the same basket as “Hand signals for traffic direction are illegal in Qld, so they use special paddles”🤣🤣

  242. H B Bear says:

    He’s very right about some stuff, but a complete blowhard crank about other things.

    Spot on. I’m re-reading one at the moment. All good and then suddenly it goes all trucks v trains on you.

  243. Leigh Lowe says:

    Mick Gold Coast QLD says:
    May 4, 2021 at 2:16 pm
    Oh sweet cheeses – I prepared that an hour or so back, someone arrived and didn’t perform a final scroll back before posting.

    I thought the coast was clear – now I may just end up being bundled into the back of a very big furniture truck

    Things are quiet over at the Furniture Factory I suspect.
    Hence the breakout.

  244. bespoke says:

    Cheers Rafiki

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