Open Forum: May 1, 2021

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  1. Tintarella di Luna says:

    Tony Rooney says:
    May 5, 2021 at 8:25 pm

    Have a look at the Courier Mails Kingaroy Anzac Day Photo Gallery.

    Thanks Tony R

    Thanks – commemoration of those who gave so much

  2. sparkx says:

    Ita – “”Fortunately there is an ABC and we are able to bring stories that Australians do need to know about to their attention.”
    What? Like this drivel?

  3. 1735099 says:

    Well, your own ANZAC Day experience completely contradicts that statement.

    The timid anonymous name-dropper engages in some convoluted logic.
    H/she/it claims that I am declaring war by wearing my medals and marching on ANZAC Day.
    The corollary is that if I had stayed at home, peace would have broken out all over the world.
    So sorry – my bad.

    The qualification dates for that medal you wear are 24 December 1962 to 27 January 1973. 24th December 1962 is almost a full two years before the National Service Act of 1964 was even passed. Clearly, the medal that you so proudly wear contradicts your statement that “I was conscripted in peacetime?”

    Clearly, it doesn’t.
    No war was declared by the Australian government between 24 December 1962 and 27 January 1973. Check the parliamentary Hansard. You’ll have as much luck as you did trying to find a reference to opt-out parades in the Commandeers’ Diaries. It will, however, keep you off the street and from dropping names for a while.

  4. 1735099 says:

    Personally, the memorial part of today was him taking a huge shit on a fellow member of his Battalion (and Association) by inferring that he was a liar.

    I have been called a liar by the same member when he claimed that opt-out parades were held prior to embarkation in 7 RAR in 1969. So who’s putting shit on whom?
    I was a member at that time and neither witnessed nor participated in such an event.
    Somebody’s not telling the truth.

  5. Albatross says:

    Rick Ross – The Boss

    https://youtu.be/nRpZHbmqh30

  6. Mater says:

    Somebody’s not telling the truth.

    Indeed, and we know who’s got form.

  7. Fair Shake says:

    And a second top of the morning to you

  8. Herodotus says:

    Corrected Ita-gram:
    “Countries which have a well-funded public broadcaster have a nest of left wing propagandists doing damage to democracy and the national interest.”

  9. Knuckle Dragger says:

    ‘and from dropping names for a while.’

    Dapo.
    Ravo.
    Gibbo.

    John McBain.

  10. Tintarella di Luna says:

    Herodotus says:
    May 6, 2021 at 6:45 am
    Corrected Ita-gram:
    “Countries which have a well-funded public broadcaster have a nest of left wing propagandists doing damage to democracy and the national interest.”

    Quite

  11. Herodotus says:

    BBC newshour and the NYT agree that Trump incited violence on January 6th and deserves to be banned from Facebook and twitter.
    NYT technology writer expresses opinion of Trump’s new website: looks like a blog, not sure it will achieve anything.

  12. Knuckle Dragger says:

    ‘and from dropping names for a while.’

    I went to the same school as Kevin Rudd and Wayne Swan.

    They were ‘a couple of years ahead of me’, except they were much too young to have done that which makes my statement a complete fiction.

    I am unworried by this, as content matters very little.

  13. Tintarella di Luna says:

    BBC newshour and the NYT agree that Trump incited violence on January 6th and deserves to be banned from Facebook and twitter.
    NYT technology writer expresses opinion of Trump’s new website: looks like a blog, not sure it will achieve anything.

    Well after knowing this I too am a person of colour – colour – surprised

  14. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “Herodotus says:
    May 6, 2021 at 6:45 am
    Corrected Ita-gram:
    “Countries which have a well-funded public broadcaster have a nest of left wing propagandists doing damage to democracy and the national interest.””

    Yep.

  15. Cassie of Sydney says:

    ““Countries which have a well-funded public broadcaster have a nest of left wing propagandists doing damage to democracy and the national interest.”

    I would add that the ABC and BBC are openly seditious.

  16. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “I went to the same school as Kevin Rudd and Wayne Swan.”

    Didn’t Bob the Racist also go the same school as Frank Brennan?

  17. Mark A says:

    A bit of trivia to break up the onslaught by # before I turn it.

    Did You Know?

    Despite the widely held opinion that Napoleon was short, he was average in height (5’7″) for the age in which he lived—the idea that he was short was purely British propaganda.

  18. jo says:

    Krudd and Swansteen were not a couple of years behind me at school. My statement is true but content matters very little.

  19. Herodotus says:

    It’s almost traditional that Greeks, Italians and others including Indians go back to visit the “old country” and stay for as long as they like. But when things go pear-shaped they now jump up and down and want to be back here toot sweet or they sue the government.

  20. Albatross says:

    Mark A says:
    May 6, 2021 at 7:03 am
    A bit of trivia to break up the onslaught by # before I turn it.

    Did You Know?

    Manlet cope.

  21. Struth says:

    Nick says:

    May 5, 2021 at 8:40 pm

    Where’s Stuthycat?

    Having flashbacks.
    Bong, bong … Centreline! Centreline!
    Bzzzt, Bzzzt … Overspeed! Overspeed!
    Bing! … Your pie is ready.
    Whoop! Whoop! … Pull up, terrain. Pull up, terrain.

    Good Moaning Chums.
    Nicky poo , I don’t live here like you throbbers, I don’t need to, as you can see by the above comments, I, however, live in many heads.
    Yours included, and it’s very spacious.
    I can afford to take a break while butt hurt dribblers can’t let things go and continue to do my work for me.
    I’ve only scrolled back on this page and not only is it sad, it’s bloody boring.
    This old folks home where choo choo train drivers telling all and sundry how skilful he is tops the level of discussion, followed with butt hurt snide remarks from the last time I was here.
    Yawn……
    Whatever floats your boat.
    Or steers your train.
    Rex Anger, the anger comes from telling all and sundry, arrogantly, that your beloved choo choos aren’t subsidised.
    Which is wrong and therefore, we note people of low integrity, try to character assassinate those who call them out.
    And weren’t you done like a dinner?
    Destroyed entirely.
    When tel posted that I was laughing my tits off.
    Then the bloke who knows nothing but knows everything about it, chimed in, purely because whatever position I take, his must oppose, and got his digital bottom smacked to.
    Yes, the level of boring above may mean you old farts are saving on your magnesium supply, but “C’mon Man” surely we don’t need to hear war stories from choo choo driver’s about how skilful he is playing with his throttle knob as well as commo bob’s yawn fest of self pity and indulgence.

    So I have come here today to make this comment about fuck wit Australians.

    And there are many.

    I’m gobsmacked at the gullibility of many, including many near and dear to me.
    Can you believe that after over a year of this scamdemic, and being told absolute lies by the big corporate global media, people still get sucked in with this latest India panic porn?
    Dead bodies being burned……………….PANIC!!!
    No, Hindus have always done this for a very long time.
    India had hardly any covid until now.
    Strange that.
    If the media paying a few people to be filmed with space suits on and to pretend to be sick and need oxygen,…whatever….still works on the multitudes after all this, what hope is there?
    India was using Ivermectin and for a year, without the ability to, or the wealth to “self isolate” or social(ist) distance, magically, like most third world nations, no covid to speak of, and no increase in overall deaths.
    Funny that.
    Of course, they are not the main targets in all this.
    Western nations are.
    Now a year later, the media start filming what has been common place in India for ever, burning the dead, calling it the results of Covid, and people shit themselves.
    Using the burning of bodies in India as Panic porn and lying about it should have been proof to all as to the sinister evil and it’s propaganda we are up against.
    Those in the MSM know very well India burns it’s dead near the Ganges out in the open.

    With 25 of the states in the USA now dropping ALL covid restriction, and that’s ALL covid restrictions, ALL…………. our government continues building it’s new concentration camps, calling them quarantine centres, while the millions imprisoned on this convict Island by these criminals, cheer them on.

  22. Leigh Lowe says:

    BONG! BONG! Word-salad tsunami alert!

  23. Knuckle Dragger says:

    Manic-depressive commentator Michael Slater doubles down from the Maldives (the Hun):

    ‘Former Test opener turned commentator Michael Slater has taken a second swing Prime Minister Scott Morrison over the India flight ban.

    ‘Slater called on Scott Morrison to “take your private jet and come and witness the dead bodies on the street!” before saying he would debate him “anytime” in a series of blistering tweets.’

    Slats. Take your meds, get off the nose beers and stop believing your own publicity. You’ve become one of those squealy entitled travellers Alexander Downer correctly wrote about all those years ago.

    Also, stop rooting your mates’ wives. Or not.

  24. Rex Anger says:

    Struth desperate to confirm his perceived ‘victory’ using an unrelated post to his original ‘argument’ from an unrelated third party.

    I’ve quite enjoyed collecting my subsidies of $0.00 from Gummint this week.

    I even hauled a bigger load of concentrated acid than you managed to dump on this blog for 2 days.

    And I never spilled a single drop…

  25. pete m says:

    Good last few paras Struth. It really is true how you can control a people through fear. Such a strong emotion.

  26. Cassie of Sydney says:

    I see Struthy is still kvetchy.

  27. Knuckle Dragger says:

    ‘Dead bodies being burned……………….PANIC!!!
    No, Hindus have always done this for a very long time.’

    This was a topic of discussion several days before you dropped in to enlighten us, St. Ruth.

    There are mitigating circumstances though. You’re a bit tired. I can tell from the camera.

  28. Rex Anger says:

    Rex Anger, the anger comes from telling all and sundry, arrogantly, that your beloved choo choos aren’t subsidised.
    Which is wrong

    Still waiting for you to prove your case.

    And remember, the only mobs that own the tracks they run on, are the capital cities’ government-run suburban operators.

    Your lie that you ‘proved’ your case by Tel linking to an ARTC audit, would be the same as me linking an audit for governmental grants on hoghway upkeep spending by the RTA or MainRoads Victoria/WA, etc.

  29. Leigh Lowe says:

    If you’ve got a subsrciption, interesting article in the Oz about embracing changes in the workplace, and what happens to the dinosaurs who don’t …

    The value of intellectual curiosity

    I can’t recall anyone who resisted change and went on to career success.

  30. Struth says:

    When I dropped in, Knuckles, people where still shitting themselves about it on this blog.
    However, it’s good to put it out there again, is it not, ….as there are some people that read this blog that don’t live here 24/7.
    It’s not a private club for lonely pensioners.

  31. Knuckle Dragger says:

    Welcome back, where Day Four of the Truck v Train Test is about to get under way at this magnificent venue.

  32. Herodotus says:

    Political spin at News.com.au:
    “ Cheney, the daughter of former vice president Dick Cheney, is a staunch conservative, but her criticism of Mr Trump since the Capitol riot on January 6 and public denunciations of his lies about the 2020 election have sparked an effort to remove her as conference chair.”

  33. Cassie of Sydney says:

    Struth…I agree with much of what you wrote above. I actually believe that much of the media hysteria about India is a deliberate attempt to undermine its use of Ivermectin and other drugs.

  34. Herodotus says:

    Trains are great!

  35. Struth says:

    Ha ha.
    Rex, the tax payers hand their taxes to the ARTC in the form of subsidies, without which, you may not even have a job.
    That’s just a fact.
    Telling us you received zero subsidies in your pay packet this week , may work on ABC journalists or 5 year olds, but your speaking to right wing people here.
    It’s embarrassing.

  36. Leigh Lowe says:

    Herodotus says:

    May 6, 2021 at 7:35 am

    Trains are great!

    The best!!

  37. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “Political spin at News.com.au:
    “ Cheney, the daughter of former vice president Dick Cheney, is a staunch conservative, but her criticism of Mr Trump since the Capitol riot on January 6 and public denunciations of his lies about the 2020 election have sparked an effort to remove her as conference chair.””

    That is a perfect example of why I loathe the MSM.

  38. Knuckle Dragger says:

    A question was put out there yesterday apropos of electric trams versus horse-drawn.

    As always, the answer is a hybrid.

  39. Caveman says:

    Welcome back, where Day Four of the Truck v Train Test is about to get under way at this magnificent venue.

    🍿😎👍

  40. calli says:

    Those in the MSM know very well India burns it’s dead near the Ganges out in the open.

    That’s not all that happens in India “out in the open”. How anyone is surprised that disease of any kind runs rife in a land of poor hygiene and rudimentary sanitation is beyond me.

    We are to panic because people in India are getting sick? Really? Surely Aussies are more sophisticated and well-travelled than to fall for that nonsense.

    The Ivermectin/vaccination nexus is worth examining. How was Ivermectin dropped from treatments, is it only available on the black market now vaccination is happening, are vaccinated people still getting sick? Was the removal/reduction of Ivermectin a cause of increased hospitalisation? Are there any underlying co-morbidities in those succumbing to disease?

    So many questions and so few curious journalists.

    But so, so many panic merchants with various agendas. The biggest one being to wedge the government yet again. They’ve tried just about everything so far.

  41. incoherent rambler says:

    Welcome back, where Day Four of the Truck v Train Test is about to get under way at this magnificent venue.
    Sun shining, light breeze skipping across the oval.

    And fsck me if it din’t rain*.

  42. Leigh Lowe says:

    St Ruth.
    Have you done those wear and tear calcs per axle yet?
    You can assume any reasonable gross weight and number of axles you like.
    Remember, as RobK said, it’s a cubed function.
    In the meantime, care to even hazard a guess what it might be compared to an average sedan?

  43. 132andBush says:

    So many questions and so few curious journalists.

    Never a truer word said re Covid.

  44. Rex Anger says:

    Welcome back, where Day Four of the Truck v Train Test is about to get under way at this magnificent venue.

    Nope. The unemployed ex-truck driver can abuse and lie at someone else that they are a liar and a communist who doesn’t know what real work is, because they didn’t kiss his feet and weep joyously at his ‘wisdom…’

    And then smarmily crow about it to all and sundry afterwards…
    we note people of low integrity, try to character assassinate those who call them out.

    You utter gobshite.

  45. Leigh Lowe says:

    Knuckle Dragger says:

    May 6, 2021 at 7:38 am

    A question was put out there yesterday apropos of electric trams versus horse-drawn.

    As always, the answer is a hybrid

    Correct.
    Hybrid = Two horses and a nine-volt cattle prod.

  46. Knuckle Dragger says:

    This is a country which lets cattle roam the teeming streets groaning under their individual untreated parasite loads, shitting where they like and are left there when dead.

    Of course they’re going to die by the trainload.

    Or truckload.

  47. calli says:

    I hear the train a comin’, it’s rolling round the bend
    And I ain’t seen the sunshine since I don’t know when
    I’m stuck in OT prison, and time keeps draggin’ on
    But that train keeps a rollin’ on and on…

    …until it hits a truck stuck on a level crossing.

    This looks likely to rival the Thermomix War of 2014.

  48. Knuckle Dragger says:

    Ah.

    Snap, calli.

  49. Farmer Gez says:

    Notice that nobody seems to care about Chairman Dan.
    Even the ABC fan club hasn’t held a meeting for a while. This lack of interest is very suspicious. Surely his recovery and the circumstances of the injury would have the news hounds hunting for answers.
    We’ll have to wait until the carcass begins to stink and can’t be ignored.

  50. Eyrie says:

    As always, the answer is a hybrid.

    I guess the Boston Dynamics crew could make you an electric horse.

  51. Leigh Lowe says:

    Probably best not to accuse people of PANIC if you go into hysterics when a lane departure warning goes off, or auto windscreen wipers sweep across the windscreen.
    “I was exhausted trying to work to a standard electronic log book. I couldn’t take it no more!”

  52. Struth says:

    No it’s not happening today, KD, I may argue my points, but once they are all said, I don’t stick around for the tantrums just to have the last word.
    I have a few minutes to say g’day to the nice people, and give it to whack jobs like Frank.
    Because they keep on droning and droning on with their butt hurt.
    I bet if I went back a few more pages they’d still be trying to paint me as some Slim Dusty loving cowboy drug addled old truckie, ………because they have no argument.
    That’s what Rex is doing as well.
    Lefty tactics aren’t used because they are left wing, it’s used by anyone who can’t argue the facts, and need to call names instead, it seems.
    The tactics of the factually defeated.
    Just like the left.
    And the people reading them doing this, aren’t stupid, they can see…. it sticks out like dog’s balls, most just don’t want to call them out and get involved.
    Their opinions of these characters kept to themselves.
    I, on the other hand, rather enjoy it.

    Ta ta.

  53. Knuckle Dragger says:

    Look. Not telling anyone what to do.

    I’m just saying, just raising the point, that it would obviously be instructive to have an informed debate on the relative merits of the road versus rail industry.

    In Vietnam.

  54. Rex Anger says:

    I don’t stick around for the tantrums just to have the last word.

    Gobshite said, having just done exactly that for 3 days…

  55. Leigh Lowe says:

    Farmer Gez says:

    May 6, 2021 at 7:46 am

    Notice that nobody seems to care about Chairman Dan.
    Even the ABC fan club hasn’t held a meeting for a while. This lack of interest is very suspicious. 

    I agree.
    After the adulation afforded the Great Leader last year, I would of expected daily updates on his brave and resilient recovery.
    But we got nothing.
    Don’t get me wrong. Every day sans Dan is grand.
    It’s just strange.

  56. Rex Anger says:

    Lefty tactics aren’t used because they are left wing, it’s used by anyone who can’t argue the facts, and need to call names instead, it seems.
    The tactics of the factually defeated.

    Gobsbite projected, having relied solely on sjeer obnoxiousness, name-calling and perceptions of a competing industry still stuck in the late 1970s

  57. Knuckle Dragger says:

    Rex.

    Please relate the entertaining anecdote where you led the convoy of trains to Canberra, but were turned back by Seal Team Six.

  58. Albatross says:

    Knuckle Dragger says:
    May 6, 2021 at 7:34 am
    Welcome back, where Day Four of the Truck v Train Test is about to get under way at this magnificent venue.

    Where we’re at:

    – You will accept the FreedomProbe ™ for safety and vigilance

    – Trains are “pointed” not “driven”

    – With a truck, you can go anywhere you like

  59. Mater says:

    Notice that nobody seems to care about Chairman Dan.
    Even the ABC fan club hasn’t held a meeting for a while. This lack of interest is very suspicious. Surely his recovery and the circumstances of the injury would have the news hounds hunting for answers.

    For real evidence, I think we should look to the sales figures of his Blankets and Cushions.

  60. Leigh Lowe says:

    Slim Dusty loving cowboy drug addled old truckie …

    Isn’t it ex-truckie?

    I’m mad as hell and I’m not going to take it no more.

  61. Rex Anger says:

    Rex.

    Please relate the entertaining anecdote where you led the convoy of trains to Canberra, but were turned back by Seal Team Six.

    Hang on, I thought it was the Victorian Capital Queensland Federal Parramattamilitary Police who were pointing their cenotaphs at me? 🤔

  62. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “So many questions and so few curious journalists.”

    That line by Calli should be a banner heading here on the Cat.

    Save a few journalists such as Glenn Greenwald, Matt Taibbi, James Delingpole etc…..there are no decent journalists left and journalism is dead.

  63. Rex Anger says:

    – With a truck, you can go anywhere you like

    Including straight up your own fundament.

  64. Leigh Lowe says:

    Please relate the entertaining anecdote where you led the convoy of trains to Canberra, but were turned back by Seal Team Six.

    … who may or may not have been weilding black broom-handles.
    I couldn’t tell because of the dust thrown up by my high speed retreat.
    .
    Stand.
    Or fall.
    Or run.

  65. Albatross says:

    Rex Anger says:
    May 6, 2021 at 7:54 am
    – With a truck, you can go anywhere you like

    Including straight up your own fundament.

    No need to be ass-blasted because you can’t steer. Just think of Trainfrotters as differently abled.

  66. Leigh Lowe says:

    Bzzzt. Bzzzt.
    REPORT THIS AD.
    AND STAY IN YOUR LANE.

  67. Rex Anger says:

    Sorry Cats.

    Next time Struth gets on his high horse, I’ll do what the rest of you do and just poke him until he screams and runs away.

    No engagement.

  68. Knuckle Dragger says:

    They have Siri for trucks, right?

  69. Eyrie says:

    Back in 2001 Mrs Eyrie and I go the spend the night at Forrest due to bad weather between there and Kalgoorlie. We had got about 15 miles up the track at 1500 feet AGL when the cloud ahead appeared to be reaching the ground. I also knew that with the SE wind Kalgoorlie is known to go very bad with low cloud as I had spent some time in the forecaster’s chair in the Perth Office.
    A very interesting evening ensued as the railway track inspector was there for the night also. We learned some very interesting facts about railways. I was under the impression that you prepared the soil, chucked on some ballast sleepers and then the rails and that was it. Not so. Tracks are like living creatures and change from day to day with traffic, weather, dead wombats, camels etc and need inspecting/maintenance every day.
    The inspector also had some uncomplimentary things to say about the younger train drivers. The older blokes, if the train slows and need more throttle to maintain speed will stop and fix the derailed bogie. The younger blokes will simple add throttle. Doesn’t do the sleepers much good I’m told.

    So train driving could perhaps be likened to Mal’s little speech to River at the end of “Serenity”.

  70. calli says:

    Around forty years too late, but 2024 will likely see “journalism” as Orwell predicted – run entirely by the State for mass consumption. Any dissent will evaporate. Sure, there are some cosmetic differences, but all are singing from the same song-sheet.

    If there is any honest history written for future generations, the years 2020-21 will be seen as the marker, where the slow decline of standards fell off the precipice into rank propaganda.

  71. hzhousewife says:

    Indian born Aussie lady on radio this am mentioned that some of the panic in India stems from the fact that anyone can catch the virus, the wealthy and privileged are not immune, the upper classes are so used to being able to jump queues and obtain medicines that not being able to is a big shock.

  72. calli says:

    The only thing that’s stopping up the deluge of bull is the internet. That will change. We see the first turns of the screw right now with cancellings and bannings.

  73. Rex Anger says:

    If Struth is reading this, he is most welcome to put his money where his mouth is, and come collect subsidies by not steering too.

    If he is fit and well enough to meet the Medical standards, can suffer 2 months of technical and rules-based training, pass a medical and not be offended by pressong a button regilarly or the lack of a steering wheel, then there is a very ready supply of steady and well-compensated work…

    https://www.seek.com.au/trainee-train-driver-jobs/in-queensland

  74. duncanm says:

    Ita’s been inhaling the air at ABC HQ for too long and become part of the borg.

  75. Eyrie says:

    There’s Starship SN 15 possibly to launch on a test in the next couple of hours.
    Updates here and SpaceX coverage is set to go live in half an hour. Watch here on Youtube:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9eoubnO-pE

  76. Rex Anger says:

    can suffer 2 months of comprehensive and exacting technical and rules-based training,

  77. 132andBush says:

    Anecdote from harvest two years ago.
    South of Horsham.
    Farmer I harvest for from time to time had stored 200t of canola on farm as part of a contractual arrangement with buyer.

    I was there the morning all the trucks arrived to start the out-load. Five trucks, every one an auto DAF or Iveco. Day cab, singles.
    With the bit of manoeuvering required in the yard it quickly became apparent none of the “drivers” could reverse. The farmer had to step in and do it!
    English was also optional.

    Our country is slowly but shirley devolving to the lowest common denominator but that’s ok because we can rely on vibrating seats and an out of lane buzz to get us there safely.

  78. calli says:

    And India has another problem, particularly among the young and well-off and “healthy”. An unexpected one.

    Is this also why the prosperous are struggling with the virus and are being hospitalised?

    More questions.

  79. Rex Anger says:

    shirley

    …you can’t be serious?

  80. Rex Anger says:

    Our country is slowly but shirley devolving to the lowest common denominator but that’s ok because we can rely on vibrating seats and an out of lane buzz to get us there safely.

    Technology cannot and does not compensate for incompetence.

    Be that by the operator or the 457 visa agent.

  81. 132andBush says:

    Surely his recovery and the circumstances of the injury would have the news hounds hunting for answers.

    That’s right.
    I mean he could’ve just been out walking the dog.
    Dog sees a cat and wants to give chase and poor Dan is pulled off his feet.

    It happens.

  82. Leigh Lowe says:

    St Ruth.
    Come on, man.
    Admit it.
    You found the vibrating seat a little more (ahem) stimulating than any red-blooded hetero should.
    Did you find yourself deliberately blinking to set it off?

  83. calli says:

    With the bit of manoeuvering required in the yard it quickly became apparent none of the “drivers” could reverse.

    Good grief! How did they get their articulated vehicle license? It’s a basic skill and has to be tested in a variety of conditions, a quiet loading bay being the easiest.

    Has someone been taking short cuts? Who? And why have they not been investigated, along with whoever “tested” them?

  84. MatrixTransform says:

    I’m stuck in OT prison, and time keeps draggin’ on
    But that train keeps a rollin’ on and on…

    When I was just a baby my mama told me
    “Son, always be a good boy, don’t ever play with guns”

    But I shot a tent in yetNam just to see the sky
    When I hear that whistle blowing, I hang my head and cry

  85. bespoke says:

    “`

  86. Farmer Gez says:

    Dog sees a cat and wants to give chase and poor Dan is pulled off his feet.

    Very wordy there Bush. Shorthand:
    Dan hurt chasing pussy.

  87. Rex Anger says:

    Huh-hush was an attempt to use a maritime-style water tube boiler in a railway setting.

    ‘Normal’ locomotive boilers use a series of fire tubes transmitting hot gas from the back to the front, heating up a water ‘jacket’ to produce steam.

    The experiment was not a success, and a conventional locomltive boiler was substituted.

    I believe it also gained the nickname ‘Galloping Sausage’ because of its odd shape.

  88. Rex Anger says:

    Dan hurt chasing pussy.

    Phrasing?

  89. Leigh Lowe says:

    132andBush.
    I see someone put a load of sheep on it’s side near Horsham yesterday.
    Apparently “speed was not a factor”.
    Are there new laws of physics in Horsham?

  90. min says:

    Napoleon ‘s height that I have no idea but I visited Fontainebleau with my husband on business and was taken over the palace there by a local . Napoleon lived there so many of the rooms had his possessions still there including shoes and slippers which were the size of a small child ‘s shoe. Incredibly small so I reckon he would have been about 5feet tall .

  91. H B Bear says:

    Day 4 of the trucking war?

  92. Rex Anger says:

    And a horse transporter was hit by another truck outside Coolgardie. Bit of a mess. Highway to Kalgoorlie still blocked as a result of last night.

    IKEA to receive another rush job…

  93. Dave in Marybrook says:

    hzhousewife- crumbling class barrier shock eh?
    A wicked virus that doesn’t discriminate… hmmm…
    Wasn’t ABC radio by any chance?

  94. H B Bear says:

    Sure, blame the sheep. We know a couple here will.

  95. Rex Anger says:

    Day 4 of the trucking war?

    Nope.

    Struth can have his ‘win.’

    Struth is never wrong, after all.

    He says so…

  96. Leigh Lowe says:

    Technology cannot and does not compensate for incompetence.

    No.
    But it can help a fair-to-middling driver become a bit better (if he is open-minded enough to embrace it).

  97. Leigh Lowe says:

    H B Bear says:

    May 6, 2021 at 8:16 am

    Sure, blame the sheep. We know a couple here will.

    They already have.
    Half of them were executed on the spot.
    I didn’t need that just as the leg ‘o lamb was served up.

  98. Diogenes says:

    The inspector also had some uncomplimentary things to say about the younger train drivers.

    Shortly after Mrs D & I were married (mid 80s), her brother in law, a train driver operating out of Broadmeadow offered me a cab ride, she drove up to Maitland to visit her sister & I met the BiL at Chullora freight depot for my cab ride – 3×46 class electrics with 80 waggons/1800tons in the back. After Gosford the BiL offered me a drive, and as I was cresting the grade at Hawkmount I asked when I should start throttling back, BiL asks why, and I say I don’t want 1800 tons pushing me into Awaba. He points out a landmark and says when I am level with that to drop the speed. He walks over and smacks his mate across the back of the head saying words to the effect of, “He is just a f’in railfan, and he knows that you have slow down when you go over the top .’

  99. bespoke says:

    But it can help a fair-to-middling driver become a bit better (if he is open-minded enough to embrace it).

    Indeed! 😁 Plenty of jobs to be had were Ausie think they are to good for or rather live on the dole.

  100. Rex Anger says:

    He walks over and smacks his mate across the back of the head saying words to the effect of, “He is just a f’in railfan, and he knows that you have slow down when you go over the top .’

    Tacit knowledge. 👍

  101. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    Curriculum swings the pendulum too farGeoffrey Blainey

    1:00AM May 6, 2021
    63 Comments

    What should students be taught? It is one of the vital questions facing the nation.

    Should the new draft curriculum convince them to respect most of their nation’s achievements, or deride modern Australia as primarily a procession of failures, cloaked in racism?

    The latest adventure in creating a syllabus, especially for Years 7 to 10, is the outcome of long discussions involving classroom teachers, educational experts, an Indigenous advisory committee and some very capable historians and political scientists. It is an incredibly long document. To read it all and take notes and consult some relevant books and articles calls for a couple of days of full- time reading.

    The document claims to have reduced the “clutter” and overload of topics in the present curriculum. Heaven help the students who are in the existing regime of history and civics.

    The draft Year 7 syllabus is breathtaking. Young students must learn world history from 60,000 BC to AD 650. A vast expanse of time embracing the rise and fall of many old civilisations, its chief events are set out in massive detail. But there is an awkward problem. Students can study only two of these civilisations, and one of the two must be the so-called First Nation Peoples of Australia and “the sophistication and significance” of their cultures. To most of those who belong to the Last Nation, this language seems somewhat inappropriate in a ­government report.

    Students should learn about traditional Aboriginal history, especially its successes, but why can’t they also study the stories of Greece and Rome? After all, they were the mainsprings of the civilisation most Australians inherit.

    In the introduction for Civics and Citizenship for Years 7 to 10, as opposed to the actual course content, the draft curriculum document “recognises that Australia is a secular nation with a culturally diverse, multi-faith society and a Christian heritage”. But Australia can’t realistically be called a multi-faith society if five of every six Australians who profess a faith are Christian. It can’t be called a secular society if the Australian Bureau of Statistics reports that the clear majority of Australians belong to the major religions.

    In Year 8, the students will ­concentrate on the years from 1750 to 1918. Sections of the course will be welcomed by people of ­diverse views but again there is a strong bias against mainstream Australians.

    By page 56, the emphasis is on the “frontier wars and genocide” arising from British colonisation. Genocide is hardly a fair and accurate word. Aboriginal people often suffered from the frontier wars but they suffered even more from the many wars fought by their own “nations”, one against the other, during thousands of years. These Aboriginal wars have become taboo in some of the ­university and school courses, but the evidence for them is overwhelming. They are expelled from the curriculum.

    Ours is one of the oldest continuous democracies. A great achievement, it is not without its faults. Only one sentence would be needed to inform students of this feat. Australia was the first ­nation in the world to grant women both the right to vote and the right to stand for parliament. So far I have found no mention of this victory in a curriculum of enormous length.

    Australia’s part in World War I is a topic of growing debate. Why did so many Australians enlist? The first reason offered in this document is the challenge of “living on the land and a need for regular pay”. You have to blink at such a statement. Most Australian soldiers in 1914 did not live on the land. The fact that Australia had vital reasons of its own for fighting in the war is not discussed.

    In Year 9, among other instructions, they are to busy themselves “researching examples of young people who are acting as global citizens, such as Greta Thunberg”. The sentence ends with the names of two impressive young Australians who, in public debate, deserve anonymity, for they did not put up their hands to be chosen and in their own way are admirable role models.

    Everyone knows Greta. But if climate change is to be discussed in Australian schools, we should select as a role model not a young Swede but a brilliant young 15-year old Australian student who can actually answer, off the cuff, questions about this important debate.

    As the world has many global problems, why not nominate world poverty or the danger of ­nuclear war? No, the second role model is also a crusader against climate change.

    The third role model was not global but an impressive Mooslim boy who was attacked by “bullies” in his Sydney school. The bullies, judged by the context, were almost certainly white mainstream Australian boys.

    Why should mainstream Australian boys appear in this parable only as villains? Surely one of the hallmarks of young lifesavers is their willingness to rescue foreign tourists who so often venture out of their depth. The selection bias in this fascinating document is often evident. But hard research is also visible.

  102. Nob says:

    Calli:

    I did business in India for about twenty years.

    My Indian colleagues told me for years that there was an obesity wave coming and will be worse because Indians have a generic disposition to diabetes

  103. MatrixTransform says:

    He walks over and smacks his mate across the back of the head saying words to the effect

    percussive reinforcement

  104. Nob says:

    Argentina.

    On a call with my Ecuadorian colleague in Ecuador today, he told me nobody is doing business with Argentina.

    Borders are closed because COVID, economy is a mess, government is a mess, place is going like Venezuela (his words).

    Can’t be certain of getting paid or getting your money out. Sovereign risk to projects

    Used to be the richest country in Latin America and one of the richest in the world.

    A few years ago, things weren’t so bad there.

  105. Rex Anger says:

    But it can help a fair-to-middling driver become a bit better (if he is open-minded enough to embrace it).

    Indeed! 😁 Plenty of jobs to be had were Ausie think they are to good for or rather live on the dole.

    Keep also in mind that all industries have a grapevine. Good and bad operators alike get known, and reputations precede people. State- and even nationwide. There is a reason trainees and apprentices are told to keep their noses clean…

  106. feelthebern says:

    After failing my truck driving test, I think I might try trains.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rcz5Ew1lWU

  107. MatrixTransform says:

    well, the Old Bird has hit the ton today.

    We will all catch up down the Rissole
    each part of the extended family prolly bringing our own covid variants

    Cousins will be there
    One of them is a train driver around Melb

    I’ll try and get some war-stories

  108. Arky says:

    Have you done those wear and tear calcs per axle yet?
    You can assume any reasonable gross weight and number of axles you like.
    Remember, as RobK said, it’s a cubed function.

    ..
    I’d say you should give up your career of mathematical modelling.
    The cost to the road network of a vehicle will not be the cube of weight, because:
    1. Most of the damage is an interaction of road traffic and weathering. Even a completely untrafficed road will require resurfacing periodically as water freezing and unfreezing damages the surface. And even an untrafficked road will have the bitumen bleed throught the surface with time.
    2. Resurfacing due to wear is not the only maintenance cost on roads.
    3. You ignore the large initial cost of building a road in the first place.

  109. Leigh Lowe says:

    After failing my truck driving test, I think I might try trains.

    Ooooh!
    Fightin’ words.

  110. Rex Anger says:

    I met the BiL at Chullora freight depot for my cab ride – 3×46 class electrics with 80 waggons/1800tons in the back

    Diogenes’ chariot, albeit not long before their retirement…

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H_nwwFauHT0

  111. Dave in Marybrook says:

    Ok, add Argentina to my list of countries on the upper bounds of the corrupt/melodramatic axis.

  112. Rex Anger says:

    After failing my truck driving test, I think I might try trains.

    Ooooh!
    Fightin’ words.

    The vast majority of rail loading sites are sized with their vehicles in mind.

    No low pipes, overhanging wires or other snaggable things.

    Then there are bridges

  113. Leigh Lowe says:

    Arky.
    Which vehicles cause most wear and tear and necessitate beefing up construction?
    And what is the factor of wear of a 60 tonne truck over a two tonne car.
    Hint.
    It is not 30:1.
    I was hoping the Oracle of the Highways could tell us.
    Turns out he can’t.
    “Do your own bloody research” = “I have no idea and I am too dumb to even know where to start.”

  114. feelthebern says:

    That’s why the internet was invented, Rex.

  115. incoherent rambler says:

    Australia’s part in World War I is a topic of growing debate. Why did so many Australians enlist?

    Speaking for one branch of my family:
    For king and country.

    And they didn’t like Bosch.

  116. Dave in Marybrook says:

    Massive diabetic surge in Argentina too. The sweets there are so sugary they make your teeth crumble as you lick an icecream.
    Lovely wife was there as exchange student, I’ve been a few times, and into locals’ lives too which is an insight. The upper-income girls all have re-enamelled teeth by 20 and dieticians by 15. The lower-income portenos in the outer suburbs are distressingly massive.

  117. Dave in Marybrook says:

    The high country is heaven, though. Red wine, lager and beef.

  118. The Barking Toad says:

    Is this also why the prosperous are struggling with the virus and are being hospitalised?

    Good call Calli @ 8:06.

    I noticed TV coverage of the “crisis” in India showing patients awaiting/receiving treatment most were very well fed.

    Kiddies carrying stretchers were struggling.

  119. Rex Anger says:

    “Do your own bloody research” = “I have no idea and I am too dumb to even know where to start.”

    Hence the crowing, goalpost-shifting and increased cacophony of abuse over a track report?

  120. Leigh Lowe says:

    Keep also in mind that all industries have a grapevine. Good and bad operators alike get known, and reputations precede people. 

    You mean like an avowed anti-unionist agitating around the depot for collective action to get monitoring technology ripped out of vehicles?
    I loved how the fact that the owners of the trucking company “only did it because they could save $1 million in insurance premiums”.
    A mere million!
    Nothing to a man of principle like me (who is also not coughing up the million).

  121. Rex Anger says:

    That’s why the internet was invented, Rex

    Yeah. The Bayswater bridge is a nasty one.

  122. 132andBush says:

    calli says:
    May 6, 2021 at 8:10 am

    Calli,
    I think a lot of corners are cut. I haven’t the time just now but there has been more than one story re dodgy truck licensing in the news in the last few years.

  123. 132andBush says:

    Gez,
    😃

  124. Rex Anger says:

    @132andBush-
    Calli,
    I think a lot of corners are cut. I haven’t the time just now but there has been more than one story re dodgy truck licensing in the news in the last few years

    Caveat emptor with your contractors?

    It seems there are Driving Schools and driving schools.

  125. incoherent rambler says:
  126. Shy Ted says:

    Trucks, trains are OK but in big continents like Africa, flight wins.

  127. H B Bear says:

    Yeah. The Bayswater bridge is a nasty one.

    Perth drivers don’t help.

  128. Rex Anger says:

    My Indian colleagues told me for years that there was an obesity wave coming and will be worse because Indians have a generic disposition to diabetes

    Fascinating, given just how violently sweet the Indian sweet tooth is.

    But that it is the Western fats, rather than the copious quantities of ghee, etc. that make up the key long-term energy source of the Indian diet, that are being fingered as the prime culprits is interesting.

  129. feelthebern says:

    How is BBQ man going today?
    Seriously, someone needs to interview him and ask what exactly he was looking for at every BBQ store in Sydney.

  130. min says:

    One thing we know about Dan is there were no hand or arm injuries so he did not put them out to save himself from fall . Otherwise occupied or too P###ed?

  131. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    Yeah. The Bayswater bridge is a nasty one.

    There used to be a website, showing vehicles jammed under the Bayswater bridge -does said website still exist?

  132. Arky says:

    Arky.
    Which vehicles cause most wear and tear and necessitate beefing up construction?

    ..
    What causes most of the COST of road maintenance?
    1. The fact that Australians build roads without enough camber for water to run off the road. Water both damages road surfaces when it freezes and causes more frequent resurfacing because on flat roads only a small amount of precipatation causes loss of traction.
    2. Corruption and inefficiency.
    3. Traffic.
    4. Weathering.
    ..
    That’s ignoring things such as initial cost of building the road, tgat some costs are less per vehicle for trucks, the fact that the cost of resurfacing doesn’t start at zero – if you have to resurface roads some costs of resurficing exist independant of frequency.

  133. shatterzzz says:

    One thing we know about Dan is there were no hand or arm injuries so he did not put them out to save himself from fall . Otherwise occupied or too P###ed?

    Self protection of vital parts when your getting a good kicking comes to mind!
    Or so the rumour goes ……..!

  134. Rex Anger says:

    @ Zulu-

    I linked it above.

    Hang on… I’ll do it again:

    https://www.howmanydayssincebayswaterbridgehasbeenhit.com/

  135. H B Bear says:

    LL – Struth pays tax. He doesn’t need to do the maths. Commo!

  136. Rex Anger says:

    @ Arky-

    What about heat expansion in the summer (or did you cover that earlier when you talked about bitumen blee-through?) and undermining of the roadbase in very heavy rains?

    I can remember footage of Tamworth flooding in the early 00s, with reporters stamping on spongy bitumen where the subroadbed was competely washed away.

  137. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    Hang on… I’ll do it again:

    My compliments, and thank you, Rex,

  138. Mother Lode says:

    Political spin at News.com.au:
    “ Cheney, the daughter of former vice president Dick Cheney, is a staunch conservative, but her criticism of Mr Trump since the Capitol riot on January 6 and public denunciations of his lies about the 2020 election have sparked an effort to remove her as conference chair.”

    Ah, you see? Liz Cheney is conservative. The Republican party is conservative. All the Republicans who disagree with Liz are therefore defective.

    They will probably cause a Republican loss in 2024.

  139. H B Bear says:

    If we are moving on to road costs I guess trucks won. Somebody should tell Struth.

  140. Leigh Lowe says:

    I did have a whack at Siddy drivers a couple of weeks ago, havin’ a larf at their parallel parking.
    Having coffee the other day in Melbournibad.
    Standard car spot available plus a 1.5 metre fire plug space in front.
    Small 4WD pulls up.
    Well out onto the roadway with nose level with rear of parked car.
    Makes it in.
    After 17 back and forth manoeuvres.

  141. Bons says:

    We lived in Northern India for a few years in the 70’s. Prior to IPA, the most popular sport was the bus versus train level crossing stakes. It was unbelievably common in both India and Pakistan.
    Train always scored the win. Given the fragile bus construction and the folks sitting on the roof, the toll was apalling. It lent some credibility to the general belief amongst expats that all the bus drivers were stoned on hash.
    We were stopped on the GT Road one morning because of a level crossing bingle up ahead. They transported the victims past us on lumber trucks. Sobering to the n’th. The urge to drive like the locals was supressed for a while.

  142. JC says:

    Oh God
    …………

  143. calli says:

    JC, every time you say that, I think of George Burns.

  144. bespoke says:

    1. The fact that Australians build roads without enough camber for water to run off the road. Water both damages road surfaces when it freezes and causes more frequent resurfacing because on flat roads only a small amount of precipatation causes loss of traction.

    Yes++ As proved buy the one local road being replace twice in five years. Apparently the name “River Road” or the fact the it was in a flood plain wasn’t enough a hint for the planners.

  145. calli says:

    Probably a better fit than Alanis Morissette.

  146. Leigh Lowe says:

    Arky.
    The point was St Ruth was banging on about rail subsidies whilst driving on a publicly built road.
    My question was, do the taxes paid by road vehicles fully compensate for the public funding, and what is the relativity between different classes of vehicles?
    Just saying … “I pay taxes” doesn’t answer that.
    You have moved to the subjects of the quality of design and build and natural deterioration of hypothetical “unused” roads.

  147. Leigh Lowe says:

    H B Bear says:

    May 6, 2021 at 8:56 am

    LL – Struth pays tax. He doesn’t need to do the maths. Commo!

    And …. Truckies Carry This Bloody Country!

  148. H B Bear says:

    Reverse parking is a sign that the place you live is too built up. Time to move.

  149. incoherent rambler says:

    Arky says: May 6, 2021 at 8:54 am

    Arky, investigate the Northern QLD word “washout”.
    Then you will know the reason for roads falling to bits in the North.

  150. calli says:

    I only ever reverse park. Much easier than going nose in.

    Also…

    “Always point the horses for home. You never know when you’ll need to make a fast escape!” – grandfather wisdom.

  151. mh says:

    Political spin at News.com.au:
    “ Cheney, the daughter of former vice president Dick Cheney, is a staunch conservative,

    I didn’t know endless war, corporatism, and open borders were conservative values.

    Thanks News.com.au for keeping me informed!

  152. incoherent rambler says:

    The media is staying away from Dan, until the Phantom skull ring marks are removed.

  153. bespoke says:

    JC, every time you say that, I think of George Burns.

    Really!

    It reminds me of the rom-com chick in the restaurant faking a..

    Very disturbing.

  154. H B Bear says:

    Yes++ As proved buy the one local road being replace twice in five years. Apparently the name “River Road” or the fact the it was in a flood plain wasn’t enough a hint for the planners.

    Or that it is simply cheaper to re-build a cheaply constructed road. We should assume a few people (other than ourselves, obviously) know what they are doing.

  155. incoherent rambler says:

    We should assume a few people (other than ourselves, obviously) know what they are doing.

    An example of why they call “assumption” the mother of all things.

  156. Rex Anger says:

    You have moved to the subjects of the quality of design and build and natural deterioration of hypothetical “unused” roads.

    I think Arky is actually building up to an answer to the question, in the measured and logical way strictly verboten by a certain individual who is absolutely certain that all the excises and regos and so forth paid by himself and his brethren more than covers the bill.

    And would not entertain any suggestion or information input to the contrary.

    Remember, he thinks I am an ‘arrogant liar’ because Tel found an audit on public money paid into a government-owned company who own and maintain tracks. Not paid to the utterly unrelated comlany which employ me to run trains on said tracks…

  157. Roger says:

    Indian community leaders threatening retaliation at the ballot box.

    A heads up for ScoMo: they all vote Labor anyway.

  158. Rex Anger says:

    Indian community leaders threatening retaliation at the ballot box.

    A heads up for ScoMo: they all vote Labor anyway.

    So, no loss?

  159. H B Bear says:

    The media is staying away from Dan, until the Phantom skull ring marks are removed.

    We might read about what actually happened in his obituary. Not in The Age obviously.

  160. Mother Lode says:

    I heard that the story of Napoleon’s being short was cemented by an error in measuring his height. The French inch was slightly longer than the English inch so when his height was reported in England they used the same number but shorter units.

    In addition he was usually surrounded by his bodyguard, soldiers who have been specifically selected for their robust physique and intimidating height.

    It suited the British cartoonists to depict him as diminutive with all its connotations not least among which will have been that of what we now call a Napoleon complex.

    If you look at his clothes now he would seem short, but he was about the average (or even slightly above) height for his time.

    I would not be surprised to find that when he was deposed it was advantageous to adopt the English slur to belittle (pardon the pun) in the public eye to discourage sympathy or even any rallying around him – they wanted him to stay gone. That may well be why even the French still think he was a shortarse.

  161. Rex Anger says:

    But the Phantom’s mark never comes out… 🤔

  162. bespoke says:

    How dare you Bear question me ! 😁. I’m an ex grader driver.

    Word * 567

  163. Rex Anger says:

    Bespoke thus knows how to get in and out of tight scrape[r]s…

  164. calli says:

    Indian community leaders threatening retaliation at the ballot box.

    I’m shocked! 🤣

  165. H B Bear says:

    My father actually owned a grader. I never got to drive it. Most of the time it was lent to neighbours or parked in the scrub till somebody needed it with the hope somebody would remember where it was.

  166. H B Bear says:

    Gotta love an ethnic community backlash.

  167. incoherent rambler says:

    But the Phantom’s mark never comes out…

    Indeed.

  168. H B Bear says:

    Made fencing in the spinifex a bit more pleasant though.

  169. Shy Ted says:

    Conspiracy theorists say aliens walk amongst us. I’m moving towards believing it. And they’re not green.

  170. feelthebern says:

    After 17 back and forth manoeuvres.

    Well you try park when you’re trading 15 crypo currencies simultaneously !

  171. H B Bear says:

    The French inch was slightly longer than the English inch …

    As I keep telling my girlfriend, “Eet is zee ruler.”

  172. mh says:

    NRL crisis!

    Virus shock: Roosters face tests after possible exposure
    The entire squad and staff of the Sydney Roosters are facing a COVID scare after the man at the centre of the most recent outbreak visited a Moore Park cafe.

  173. Roger says:

    Your subversive fact for the day:

    White males lag behind coloured counterparts in upward mobility in the racist UK.

    Counter the narrative, comrades!

  174. sfw says:

    Gotta weigh in re driving trucks or trains or anything. The law (in Vic) refers to ‘being in control of a vehicle’ not driving. So legally both the truck and train drivers are ‘in control’ and thus liable for anything. Funny thing in training years ago we were told that to be in control of a motor vehicle you must start it, so if a pissed person went to a pub at the top of a hill and when he left he got in the car and didn’t start the engine but rolled down the hill he wasn’t deemed ‘in control’ and so couldn’t be pinged for 05, however if he started the car and then either turned it off or it cut out whilst he was driving he was deemed to still be ‘in control’ and so could be pinged.

  175. Mater says:

    Indian community leaders threatening retaliation at the ballot box.

    And ‘vote herds’ don’t exist…apparently.

  176. miltonf says:

    The war against (white) men and boys has been going on since at least the 80s. I remember Neville Wran’s TJW- technical jobs for wimmin. Remember, when you are starting out in the workforce (unless you have connections of course), it’s that elusive ‘big break’ that gets you started.

  177. H B Bear says:

    sfw – try that in Magistrates Court and let us know how you get on.

  178. Eyrie says:

    Railways use load gauges to make sure the wagons don’t hit bridges etc enroute. Would a load gauge on the approaches o road bridges work. If it touches the truck a red light and stop sign lights up? Is that too simple?
    Mind you railway load gauges don’t help if they re-ballast the track, make it a little higher and don’t re-adjust the gauges. Happened with a horseshoe bridge over the railway in Gawler about 40 years ago. Spent several months fixing the bridge. Then hit it again but harder. South Australia. The competent Germans must have stayed home.

  179. miltonf says:

    Who the hell are these ‘community leaders’? Aren’t migrants capable of making up their own minds as to how they vote? Insulting really.

  180. H B Bear says:

    And ‘vote herds’ don’t exist…apparently.

    Let’s ask an ethnic branch stacker shall we?

  181. Leigh Lowe says:

    The media is staying away from Dan, until the Phantom skull ring marks are removed.

    Mmmyes.
    Took a tumble on 6th March (really the 5th but let’s not split hairs).
    Going to be off 8 – 10 weeks.
    Two months later we get “going well, walking 15 minutes a day”.
    So an obvious deferral to the ten week timeline. A long deferral.
    But no-one dares ask or speculate.
    Imagine if ScoMo was on sick leave for two months with no updates?

  182. 132andBush says:


    Leigh Lowe says:
    May 6, 2021 at 8:14 am
    132andBush.
    I see someone put a load of sheep on it’s side near Horsham yesterday.
    Apparently “speed was not a factor”.
    Are there new laws of physics in Horsham?

    Who knows?
    He was coming out of a nasty ‘S’ on that particular road. (Coming out not going in)
    Just as, if not more, than likely to have been 1 inch too close to a sunken shoulder, 4decks= high COM and over you go.

    No doubt the lane buzzers we’re going off as he crossed the fog line at 45deg to the horizontal.

  183. Leigh Lowe says:

    miltonf says:

    May 6, 2021 at 9:48 am

    Who the hell are these ‘community leaders’?

    Three minor ALP branch stackers.

  184. Eyrie says:

    Starship SN 15 flew and landed successfully this morning. Outstanding! Descended on a pillar of fire to a soft landing just like God and Mr Heinlein intended.

  185. notafan says:

    India has something like 43,000 private hospitals versus 20,000 odd public.
    Probably the first time the privately insured have not had immediate access to the care they want.

    That is why we are hearing about it.

  186. Leigh Lowe says:

    H B Bear says:

    May 6, 2021 at 9:46 am

    sfw – try that in Magistrates Court and let us know how you get on.

    Front bar myth I think.

  187. H B Bear says:

    Apparently it took 3 strokes to get rid of Stalin. Don’t hold your breath.

  188. miltonf says:

    It’s certainly nice not hearing from him though LL. Very, very odd though I agree.

  189. jo says:

    H B Bear an exploration site I was at had a driver that went to sleep whilst grading, ran off for about 2km. Never got in trouble but the guy in the grader behind him that was widening the cut did. He followed him.

  190. H B Bear says:

    Who still drinks in the Front Bar?

  191. Leigh Lowe says:

    Eyrie says:

    May 6, 2021 at 9:47 am

    Railways use load gauges to make sure the wagons don’t hit bridges etc enroute. Would a load gauge on the approaches o road bridges work. If it touches the truck a red light and stop sign lights up? Is that too simple?

    Ah, they do.
    And some truckies keep right on going past the big yellow sign with the flashing display “TOO HIGH! STOP! GO BACK!”
    Damned infernal cryptic and obtuse road signs.

  192. Roger says:

    Who the hell are these ‘community leaders’? Aren’t migrants capable of making up their own minds as to how they vote?

    Apparently not.

    From the Paywallian:

    “WA Premier Mark McGowan and his government’s three Indian-born MPs have come under attack from Perth’s Indian community over their support for the ban on arrivals from the subcontinent.”

  193. H B Bear says:

    jo – lucky Australia is a big country. Just back up and start again. Might confuse the station folk for a few years.

  194. Mother Lode says:

    I did have a whack at Siddy drivers a couple of weeks ago, havin’ a larf at their parallel parking.

    Tish! And confound you, sir!

    Sydney parking is unparalleled!

  195. Diogenes says:

    Damned infernal cryptic and obtuse road signs.

    But they are often not positioned well. The one on the NSW side of the Tugun Tunnel is located AFTER the last turn-off before the tunnel.

  196. feelthebern says:

    Indian community leaders threatening retaliation at the ballot box.

    Which community?
    There’s about 100.

  197. Infidel Tiger says:

    Trucks vs Train.

    It is well worth remembering that AIDS was rapidly spread through Africa by truck drivers and not train drivers.

  198. miltonf says:

    Which community?
    There’s about 100.

    Yes I wondering the same thing but the meja filth are stupid and incurious so it would never occur to them that India is many cultures and races.

  199. feelthebern says:

    Anyone believing that Big Pharma is going to give access to their IP is a retard.

  200. incoherent rambler says:

    The media is staying away from Dan, until the Phantom skull ring marks are removed.

    AND there has been no denial of this from the Premiers office!.

  201. H B Bear says:

    Top Gear is not very popular with the trucking community. Don’t write off trains just yet.

  202. 132andBush says:

    Self protection of vital parts when your getting a good kicking comes to mind!
    Or so the rumour goes ……..!

    No.
    It was the dog dragging him. 😉

  203. Mother Lode says:

    This new curriculum being talked about is evil.

    When I was a kid we were taught facts and we were taught how to work with them.

    Beliefs were the purview of parents.

    This new garbage will be setting kids against their parents.

  204. Roger says:

    Which community?
    There’s about 100.

    One vocal chap is a Sikh.

    Anyway, they’ve managed to get a meeting with Immigration Minister Alex Hawke.

    Just like that.

  205. Leigh Lowe says:

    Infidel Tiger says:

    May 6, 2021 at 10:00 am

    Trucks vs Train.

    It is well worth remembering that AIDS was rapidly spread through Africa by truck drivers and not train drivers.

    Well, der.
    It is well known that most truck drivers are gay and IV drug users.

  206. H B Bear says:

    No.
    It was the dog dragging him. 😉

    IPA training?

  207. Roger says:

    This new garbage will be setting kids against their parents.

    Next step: kids dobbing on parents.

    Gillian Trigg’s desire to know what is said around the dinner table will be met.

  208. miltonf says:

    This new garbage will be setting kids against their parents.

    Next step: kids dobbing on parents.

    Gillian Trigg’s desire to know what is said around the dinner table will be met.

    Straight out of the marxist-leninist playbook. We were warned. Joe McCarthy was right.

  209. Leigh Lowe says:

    One vocal chap is a Sikh.

    Anyway, they’ve managed to get a meeting with Immigration Minister Alex Hawke.

    And Alex will promise an upgrade to the Sikh Communidy Centre and everyone will be cool with the ban.

  210. sfw says:

    I got that st the Vic Police Academy, early 2009.

  211. Mother Lode says:

    IPA training?

    I have gone off IPA. You go to the bottle-o and it is 70% IPA and maybe 20% Pale Ales. Crammed into the last 10% is stouts, lagers, pilsners etc.

    I heard one of the reasons brewers like IPA is because they take a fraction of the time to produce so they can brew enormous volumes. Don’t know it that is true but.

  212. 1735099 says:

    When I was a kid we were taught facts and we were taught how to work with them.

    Some facts simply weren’t taught.
    My generation learned nothing about these facts in primary or secondary school.
    So were never had cause to disagree with our parents.

  213. Infidel Tiger says:

    IPA’s are usually over hopped and completely out of balance.

    They remind me of the over oaked fruit bomb wines Australia used to make during the 1990’s.

    In a righteous country we would all be drinking real ale.

  214. H B Bear says:

    Anyway, they’ve managed to get a meeting with Immigration Minister Alex Hawke.
    Just like that.

    Something … something … like a cheap tent.

  215. 1735099 says:

    I actually believe that much of the media hysteria about India is a deliberate attempt to undermine its use of Ivermectin and other drugs.

    Uh-oh, Cassie forgot to put her tinfoil hat on this morning.

  216. Roger says:

    Which community?
    There’s about 100.

    New information to hand:

    Alex Hawke is holding a “series of round table meetings” with Indian community leaders.

    So each group is getting their own meeting.

    Australians writing to their MPs and waiting six weeks for a form letter reply take note.

  217. Des Deskperson says:

    Another heartrending story in this morning’s Oz about Plibersek’s deprived and poverty-striken background. Under doubtless Dickensian conditions at the Sutherland District Trade Union Club:

    “I worked my way up from washing dishes in the kitchen to a being a waitress on the floor”

    Admittedly more plausible than the stuff about how the people where she grew in the early 70s couldn’t afford a TV, but dish pig and waitressing were fairly common earners for middle class kids who were studying.

    And being a member to the ALP – she reportedly joined at 15 – might have enhanced her employment prospects at a Trade Union club.

  218. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “Uh-oh, Cassie forgot to put her tinfoil hat on this morning”

    From a racist who once posted a conspiracy here that was doing the rounds of anti-Semitic websites (of which the racist is an avid reader) that Israeli border guards force bleach down the throats of Palestinian women.

  219. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    Well, der.
    It is well known that most truck drivers are gay and IV drug users.

    In this case, most of the truck drivers concerned were enthusiastic heterosexuals, and equally enthusiastic patrons of the harlots who hung around the truck stops.

    “Sista, will you cook for me?”

  220. H B Bear says:

    Australians writing to their MPs and waiting six weeks for a form letter reply take note.

    And do what? Truck convoy maybe. Your point is well made though. Immigration Ponzi works.

  221. feelthebern says:

    And Alex will promise an upgrade to the Sikh Communidy Centre and everyone will be cool with the ban.

    Sikh’s in Oz, don’t want Sikh’s from India coming to Oz.
    Upsets their delicate power structures.

  222. H B Bear says:

    What does Toll India do for drivers?

  223. Mother Lode says:

    Gillian Trigg’s desire to know what is said around the dinner table will be met.

    Government has taken upon itself the task of sparing us anything ‘bad’.

    Safety at all costs – anything not guaranteed 100% safe is to be banned, and while that is being arranged it is regulated to the point the reward it offered is snuffed out

    Now they want to protect us from ‘error’. You cannot have ‘wrong’ opinions. Or worse still, wrong facts.

    Just as ‘flattening the curve’ moved from managing risk to the more simplistic (if vastly costlier) policy of eradication.

    Our elites have no conception of what free speech looks like. They think it is the case where people spout the approved line on anything, where they are so wary of saying something wrong they never do, and active enforcement is no longer necessary – hence they are free.

  224. Boambee John says:

    Calli

    The Ivermectin/vaccination nexus is worth examining. How was Ivermectin dropped from treatments, is it only available on the black market now vaccination is happening, are vaccinated people still getting sick? Was the removal/reduction of Ivermectin a cause of increased hospitalisation? Are there any underlying co-morbidities in those succumbing to disease?

    Track the dates when wide scale vaccination started in India, and the rise (if any) in death rates. See if the second follows the first with a one to two week lag.

  225. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “Australians writing to their MPs and waiting six weeks for a form letter reply take note.”

    I wrote a blistering email to Dave Sharma back in January…it took him about two weeks to send a reply.

  226. H B Bear says:

    Another heartrending story in this morning’s Oz about Plibersek’s deprived and poverty-striken background

    Take 25. And Action!

  227. jo says:

    What about that one near Shenton Park I think, too long ago. I went that way 3 times, twice it had a struth stuck under it.

  228. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “Track the dates when wide scale vaccination started in India, and the rise (if any) in death rates. See if the second follows the first with a one to two week lag.”

    Indeed…and yet the racist accuses me of wearing a tinfoil hat!

  229. Roger says:

    In a righteous country we would all be drinking real ale.

    Yes, well…since Coopers surrendered to the dark side there’s not much choice.

  230. H B Bear says:

    SuperAlbo emerges with a smile on his face. Clearly the executive relief sessions are working.

  231. Top Ender says:

    Napoleon may have been a short angry Frenchman, but he has the biggest tomb on the planet.

    Here is a picture…it’s actually six coffins with the outside made of red quartz. From memory it’s about five metres long, and well off the ground – maybe four metres.

  232. shatterzzz says:

    And being a member to the ALP – she reportedly joined at 15 – might have enhanced her employment prospects at a Trade Union club.
    Being a Labor Party member was, probably, compulsory ……. LOL

  233. Roger says:

    Napoleon may have been a short angry Frenchman, but he has the biggest tomb on the planet.

    Little man complex.

  234. H B Bear says:

    Plibbers is the consummate modern politician. She is not Robinson Crusoe there.

  235. Not Uh oh says:

    For those of you feeling trapped in this Groundhog Day truck/train saga, a gentle reminder that the number for Lifeline is 13 11 14.

  236. Infidel Tiger says:

    Napoleon was a truly great man and a hero of France.

    He deserves the massive tomb.

  237. harrys on the boat says:

    Always astounded me that for such a beer drinking culture, and the fact that 2 years in the UK is pretty much the law, how little Aussies know about real ale. “Poms drink warm beer”, fucking spastics.

    Old boys in the dockyard used to drink ale straight out of the barrel in the Pym Arms. I never acquired the taste. Stella was my drug of choice and the landlord served the perfect pint of it as he was meticulous in cleaning the lines.

  238. Bar Beach Swimmer says:

    Farmer Gez says:
    May 6, 2021 at 7:46 am
    Notice that nobody seems to care about Chairman Dan.
    Even the ABC fan club hasn’t held a meeting for a while. This lack of interest is very suspicious. Surely his recovery and the circumstances of the injury would have the news hounds hunting for answers.
    We’ll have to wait until the carcass begins to stink and can’t be ignored

    There ain’t no come back for Dan. It just remains for “his team” to give him the bad news.

  239. Tony Rooney says:

    There was no such thing as the frontier wars.

    No mention of them in Hansard.

    Ergo they couldn’t have happened.

  240. Roger says:

    Australians writing to their MPs and waiting six weeks for a form letter reply take note.

    And do what?

    Organise.

    Realise that the individual citizen matters little to government under the new soft fascism.

    They only deal with sectional interests.

  241. Bar Beach Swimmer says:

    MT, up thread, I like those lyrics!

  242. H B Bear says:

    Roger you’re not suggesting joining the Lieboral Party I hope?

  243. bespoke says:

    Mother Lode says:
    May 6, 2021 at 10:04 am

    Some what related. In my dealings with DCP it was recommended by others going though the same to do a Cert in the new the terminology so not the trigger them into stonewalling proceeding. I guess saying my wife will be the primary carer as I need to work was confusing for them.

  244. incoherent rambler says:

    Notice that nobody seems to care about Chairman Dan.

    Personally, I think “falling down stairs” is a great way to get rid of a premier.
    Should be more of it.

  245. Bar Beach Swimmer says:

    On Napoleon’s height. Disparaging rivals is what politics is all about. A painting of William Bligh had him hiding under the bed when the NSW Corp arrived to depose him of his position as Governor – all wrong of course, but it made an impression, which is what propaganda is supposed to achieve, and the reason for the depiction. The same strategy was used by Howard’s enemies and rivals – Little Johnny Howard – yet he is taller than was Hawke, and again on Abbott, and very successfully so in that case.

  246. Roger says:

    Roger you’re not suggesting joining the Lieboral Party I hope?

    Good Lord, no!

    The Liberal Party delenda est.

  247. H B Bear says:

    Personally, I think “falling down stairs” is a great way to get rid of a premier.
    Should be more of it.

    ICAC not working for you? Oh, you mean Liar Premiers.

  248. Mater says:

    Personally, I think “falling down stairs” is a great way to get rid of a premier dictator.
    Should be more of it.

    FIFY

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