“War crimes” farce: McGregor is going after ignorant clerks

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94 Responses to “War crimes” farce: McGregor is going after ignorant clerks

  1. FlyingPigs says:

    C.L.

    I have nothing but absolute and utter contempt for the quisling political ‘leadership’ of the ADF.

  2. Albatross says:

    Troon!

  3. woolfe says:

    I’m sorry but is having a man who looks like a man and sounds like a man but dressed as a woman the best media spokesman to defend our armed forces? Why not get Heston Russell?

    It looks ridiculous.

  4. C.L. says:

    McGregor is doing more than being a “spokesman.”
    If McGregor’s critics can show how they’re personally doing more for these accused men, I’d be interested to hear all about it.

  5. FlyingPigs says:

    C.L. says:
    May 1, 2021 at 5:54 pm
    McGregor is doing more than being a “spokesman.”
    If McGregor’s critics can show how they’re personally doing more for these accused men, I’d be interested to hear all about it.

    Absolutely agree.

  6. FlyingPigs says:

    woolfe says:
    May 1, 2021 at 5:48 pm
    I’m sorry but is having a man who looks like a man and sounds like a man but dressed as a woman the best media spokesman to defend our armed forces? Why not get Heston Russell?

    It looks ridiculous.

    go fuck yourself woolfe

  7. Albatross says:

    FlyingPigs says:
    May 1, 2021 at 6:06 pm
    […]
    go fuck yourself woolfe

    You can fuck yourself cheering on this ridiculous degenerate just because it says something you agree with. Pathetic.

  8. Primer says:

    Be gentle Alba…… he’s a bloke with a serious mental problem. But I hear he is still attracted to women and has his bits, which begs the question: is this a deep cover crack-on gambit? If so, 5 stars.

  9. FlyingPigs says:

    Albatross says:
    May 1, 2021 at 6:09 pm
    You can fuck yourself cheering on this ridiculous degenerate just because it says something you agree with. Pathetic.

    sure butch

    David Morrison: ‘The standard you walk past is the standard you accept’, ADF investigation – 2013
    https://speakola.com/ideas/david-morrison-adf-investigation-2013

  10. David Brewer says:

    Whatever we think of the messenger, the message has an eerie ring about it.

    The process the Special Forces guys are going through sounds just like that police interview of Pell in Rome when Blind Freddie could have seen that there could be no case, but Plod just kept on plodding, all the way to the High Court.

    Of course, Pell got off. But only after 15 months in jail for nothing, and with many still believing that he must have been guilty of something, when in fact he did more than any other individual to clean up sexual abuse in the Catholic church in Australia.

    If the defence minister and the attorney-general don’t step in fast, a similar unjustified slur is likely to hang over these SF blokes for the rest of their lives.

    The other issue is, all this incompetence and lack of realism or common sense in police investigations costs money, and takes resources away from fighting actual criminality.

  11. Albatross says:

    Dozens here have prosecuted the case that the persecution of our Special Forces is a national disgrace, and a colossal mistake. I will not agree to a round of “you go grrl!” just because this filthy Troon has articulated what a dozen other posters have already said;a matter upon which all right thinking people should. That this degenerate occupied such a high station in our armed forces is a weeping disgrace. “The standard you walk past” in truth.

  12. Jock says:

    McGregor has got the support of Margaret Cunneen. A few more decent QCs will see off this garbage and with any luck a few careers of generals.

  13. Roger says:

    McGregor has got the support of Margaret Cunneen. A few more decent QCs will see off this garbage and with any luck a few careers of generals.

    Historically, generals have always been the most disposable of army officers.

    And for good reason.

    Once you rise to that rank and can’t cut the mustard you are a positive danger to national security and to the soldiers serving under you.

  14. TBH says:

    McGregor has got the support of Margaret Cunneen. A few more decent QCs will see off this garbage and with any luck a few careers of generals.

    Indeed. Cunneen from my recollection is a formidable operator and knows a thing or two about miscarriages of justice.

  15. Is it too early for the Purge?

  16. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    Indeed. Cunneen from my recollection is a formidable operator and knows a thing or two about miscarriages of justice.

    Sent the four Khan brothers up the creek for rope, while they played the poor, picked on Mooslime card, and one Bilal Skaf to the jug as well, also one “Dolly” Dunne.

  17. Dan4eva says:

    With generals it’s always provident to do as the English did with Byng pour encourager les autres.

  18. Mick Gold Coast QLD says:

    Cunneen is apparently very good at her job, she is expected to be.

    McGregor is a freak show exhibit obsessed with his doodle. I wouldn’t trust a word he said.

    The first thing you do when you are selecting a legal advocate is find someone with exceptional credibility – and normal.

  19. Ed Case says:

    The first thing you do when you are selecting a legal advocate is find someone with exceptional credibility – and normal.

    Heh.
    You can have Exceptional Legal whatever, or you can have normal.
    But you can’t have both.

  20. Albatross says:

    Ed Case says:
    May 1, 2021 at 8:06 pm
    […]
    You can have Exceptional Legal whatever, or you can have normal.
    But you can’t have both.

    Pipe down. It’s we established you don’t know shit about the law.

  21. Albatross says:

    *well

  22. BorisG says:

    I don’t think I ever expected CL and flying pigs attacked from the right. But this is here for you.

  23. Albatross says:

    BorisG says:
    May 1, 2021 at 8:14 pm
    I don’t think I ever expected CL and flying pigs attacked from the right. But this is here for you.

    Bugger off, the adults are talking.

  24. BrettW says:

    In that case why are you commenting here? It seems that anytime McGregor is mentioned it triggers abusive comments from you. Her life choices have no impact on you so why the constant negativity ? Especially since she is a good supporter of Special Forces soldiers at a time when they need it.

    Somebody mentioned why not Heston Russell commenting. Russell is a regular guest on Alan Jones show and McGregor sometimes takes his spot although not sure if McGregor has had Russell on. Russell gets plenty of air time and also seen some columns by him. He is not however a Sky News host like McGregor sometimes is.

    “Bugger off, the adults are talking”.

  25. Adam says:

    McGregor is doing more than being a “spokesman.”
    If McGregor’s critics can show how they’re personally doing more for these accused men, I’d be interested to hear all about it.

    The fact is that in our current political and social climate, if you’re a white Anglo male then you’re only going to be listened to if you wear a skirt and high heels. Which says volumes for where we are at.

    As for McGregor, an individual whom I met and spoke with on a few occasions, he is only interested in his own brightly shining star. Oh, and his doodle, which Mick already pointed out.

  26. MatrixTransform says:

    you’re only going to be listened to if you wear a skirt and high heels

    ‘sactly

    at least Shakespeare would have made this farce enjoyable

  27. C.L. says:

    Anyfuckingway…

    In McGregor’s innumerable personal representations on behalf of these men at the highest legal levels, gross and disgraceful incompetence has already emerged in the interrogative phase of the so-called ‘investigation.’ And McGregor is now publicising it via the ADF’s favourite conveyor of jury poisoning – the media.

    Chow down quickly on that shit sandwich, ADF, because there’s more coming.

    There will be no mass murder trial or trials. Not going to happen. Politicians up to and including prime ministers and ADF chiefs could be called to the witness box and ruthlessly cross-examined. This would go on for many months.

    As for Morrison and Dutton, both are turds for presiding over this and for recently ignoring (therefore endorsing) the grossly illegal and sinister leaking of Roberts-Smith’s personal telephone conversations.

    The Liberals sent these men to war and the same Liberals are now trying to shoot them in the back.

    Morrison meets with Brittany Higgins but he wouldn’t be seen within ten miles of a Victoria Cross winner. That tells you everything you need to know about him.

  28. C.L. says:

    you’re only going to be listened to if you wear a skirt and high heels

    McGregor is persona non grata on this subject at the ABC and Nein-Fax. The idea that the left-wing media is respecting the analysis being offered because McGregor is trans is obviously nonsense.

    If they won’t go after McGregor because of transphobia-phobia, good. Play by the rules of the political game as you find it.

  29. MatrixTransform says:

    you have to able to call something by its name

    otherwise, all there is, is politics

  30. MatrixTransform says:

    sorry, should have been a capital P

    …you know, like in Power

  31. Adam says:

    McGregor is persona non grata on this subject at the ABC and Nein-Fax.

    So what? He has lots of coverage at other media outlets, which is all by the stint of his skirt.

  32. BorisG says:

    I think detractors of McGregor and of CL are plying identity politics in reverse.

  33. Turtle says:

    Alan Jones and McGregor should get married.

  34. Turtle says:

    What a beautiful couple they would make.

  35. Turtle says:

    Never too late for love.

  36. Albatross says:

    BorisG says:
    May 2, 2021 at 2:02 am
    I think detractors of McGregor and of CL are plying identity politics in reverse.

    Dumbest thing you’ve ever said.

    BrettW says:
    May 1, 2021 at 9:09 pm
    […]
    Her life choices

    That’s a man you absolute clown.

  37. The Beer whisperer says:

    Talk about playing the man, not the ball. Doing so makes you as bad as the left.

    Fucking clowns here would jeopardise the lives of SAS members because they prettily hate MacGregor.

    Sure, MacGregor plays both sides, but any port in a storm and I don’t see anyone else stepping up in a position to do so. No need to be played.

    Get the job done first and then bitch and moan all you like about a bloke in a dress afterwards.

    Until then, well, get fucked.

  38. Albatross says:

    The Beer whisperer says:
    May 2, 2021 at 7:41 am
    Talk about playing the man, not the ball. Doing so makes you as bad as the left.

    Get yourself a principle. The left have been forcing sexual degeneracy down our throats for decades because they see political gain in it. It’s your attitude that most closely mirrors that of the left.

  39. Albatross says:

    Get the job done first and then bitch and moan all you like about a bloke in a dress afterwards.

    This attitude is why in the long run Conservatives lose on every issue. Absolutely pathetic.

  40. Turtle says:

    Just imagine Alan and Catherine snogging on the cover of New Idea.

  41. Turtle says:

    The first couple of Conservative Politics.

  42. Turtle says:

    Out the way Janet n Mike.

  43. Albatross says:

    Turtle says:
    May 2, 2021 at 8:09 am
    The first couple of Conservative Politics.

    *snort*

  44. Albatross says:

    Maybe we should out it on the FM wireless to attract the Yoof back to True Conservative ™ values. “Mornings with Jones and the Troon”.

  45. Bad Samaritan says:

    Here’s the Nobel Laureate, almost 60 years ago, on this McGregor freak….Ballad of a Thin Man…

    “Well, the sword swallower, he comes up to you and then he kneels
    He crosses himself and then he clicks his high heels
    And without further notice, he asks you how it feels
    And he says, “Here is your throat back, thanks for the loan”
    And you know something is happening but you don’t know what it is
    Do you, Mr. Jones?”

  46. The Beer whisperer says:

    Get yourself a principle.

    Principles and pragmatism are not mutually exclusive. You don’t have to believe in gender bullshit because you let people make their own life choices.

  47. Albatross says:

    The Beer whisperer says:
    May 2, 2021 at 8:43 am
    Get yourself a principle.

    Principles and pragmatism are not mutually exclusive.

    Ok buddy. Pumping up the tyres of the Army Troon will make the military more butch in the long run. Gotcha.

    You don’t have to believe in gender bullshit because you let people make their own life choices.

    Toleration does not free you from the obligation of moral judgement.

  48. The Beer whisperer says:

    This attitude is why in the long run Conservatives lose on every issue. Absolutely pathetic.

    What is ceded here? Nothing. If anything, it was a line crossed long ago, and you ain’t taking it back. Nothing should be ceded as a result of any win by his hand.

    It’s the extreme principled AND extreme pragmatists that have ceded ground, the former by losing relevance (Fred Nile, but he maintained a niche), the latter by not resisting anywhere (Morrison).

    Winning in politics isn’t by simply plying one or the other. Skewering the left one a single important topic central to middle Australia is a win, whichever way you look at it.

  49. Albatross says:

    What is ceded here? Nothing. If anything, it was a line crossed long ago, and you ain’t taking it back.

    Oh man.

  50. Albatross says:

    Anyhow buddy, if you want to admire the alcoholic Troon, you have at it.

  51. The Beer whisperer says:

    Ok buddy. Pumping up the tyres of the Army Troon will make the military more butch in the long run. Gotcha.

    You have no idea how politics works. Your “re-butch the Australian armed forces or the accused SAS troops gets it” is a losing proposition.

    They are separate issues and can and should be treated as such.

    Toleration does not free you from the obligation of moral judgement.

    As a free person, I’m not obliged to do anything. You’re just like the left and their social contract bullshit. My judgement is that MacGregor is a grifter and using his transgender card for personal gain, but I am under no obligation to do so.

  52. The Beer whisperer says:

    Anyhow buddy, if you want to admire the alcoholic Troon, you have at it.

    Nice strawman there, buddy. We regulars often disagree, but we do make actual arguments. At least before we trade insults 😂

  53. Albatross says:

    As a free person, I’m not obliged to do anything.

    You make your judgements whether you like it or not. Whether you choose to take responsibility for them or not is a matter for you.

  54. Albatross says:

    We regulars often disagree

    Holy shit! Didn’t realise I was in the presence of a rock-ribbed TrueCon ™. I shall bow and scrape.

  55. Albatross says:

    You have no idea how politics works.

    Ok Boomer. I guess you can confidently pronounce as much, leaning against the edifice of gains the Conservative and Libertarian (lol) political movements have made in my lifetime. Thanks for your service.

  56. Entropy says:

    Primer says:
    May 1, 2021 at 6:21 pm
    Be gentle Alba…… he’s a bloke with a serious mental problem. But I hear he is still attracted to women and has his bits, which begs the question: is this a deep cover crack-on gambit? If so, 5 stars

    A correction is necessary Primer. McGregor has had her sausage and eggs removed. This implies one hell of a lot more serious commitment than you rather cavalierly imply.

  57. Albatross says:

    This implies one hell of a lot more serious commitment than you rather cavalierly imply.

    Oh no! Don’t be cavalier about the Troon! It also got a disgusting surgery!

  58. BrettW says:

    Albatross,
    Any thoughts on the actual content of the posted clip or does that not matter ?

    I guess constantly insulting a trans is more important than considering what she and Alan are doing to help SF guys. This includes providing legal support of which Margaret Cuneen is a part.

    Whilst people here mock Alan and McGregor can anybody name somebody else who is so publicly standing up for the SF guys subject to the inquiry.

    There are some well known people providing financial support but you don’t see them speaking out.

  59. Albatross says:

    insulting a trans

    *snort* Trans. Quelle dommage! How could I have failed to respectfully use the language the left uses to normalise autogynophilic perversion? What was I thinking?

    STUNNING AND BRAVE! STUNNING AND BRAVE! Phew! That’s better!

  60. Baa Humbug says:

    If one hadn’t seen nor heard of MGregor but read his essays and op-eds on this subject, how would you react?

    Judge a man by the content of his argument,
    Not by the contents of his skirt.

    So much for individuals having the freedom to do as they wished so long as their actions don’t impinge on our freedoms.
    The fvckwits commenting above haven’t yet explained how McGregor’s dress wearing habits impinges on their freedoms.

  61. Albatross says:

    The fvckwits commenting above haven’t yet explained how McGregor’s dress wearing habits impinges on their freedoms.

    Why should we have to explain this? Why should we have to believe it?

  62. Snotball says:

    McGregor is a bloke. That’s a fact. He might wear makeup and a dress, and that’s up to him, but he is really a bloke! You can call him “she” all you want but all you are doing is making a mockery of the truth. And the truth is that while ever he sports the meat and two veg he is actually a “he”. Don’t mind that he supports the ADF though.

  63. Albatross says:

    And the truth is that while ever he sports the meat and two veg he is actually a “he”.

    Getting a disgusting “neovagina” surgery changes nothing.

  64. BrettW says:

    Albatross,
    Multiple comments about McGregor bring trans and how this offends you.
    Not one comment about the clip or even an opinion about the SF inquiry and treatment of the soldiers.
    I guess we all know what is the more significant in your petty world.

  65. stackja says:

    Defence bureaucrats made WW 2 battles harder.

  66. Primer says:

    “McGregor has had her (sic) sausage and eggs removed.”
    Bugger. I thought it might all be a cunning plan, showing a deep commitment to chasing skirt via some product differentiation.
    He’s already said he’s attracted to women, any news on that these days?

  67. Albatross says:

    I guess we all know what is the more significant in your petty world.

    Your opinion is discarded, troon-lover.

    What is most significant to me is raising my son as a man in a world of degenerates. You continue to fawn over your pet Troon buddy.

  68. Baa Humbug says:

    Albatross says:
    May 2, 2021 at 10:04 am

    The fvckwits commenting above haven’t yet explained how McGregor’s dress wearing habits impinges on their freedoms.

    Why should we have to explain this? Why should we have to believe it?

    You don’t have to explain anything mate. You can always run from the discussion when it gets a bit hard for ya.

  69. Albatross says:

    You don’t have to explain anything mate. You can always run from the discussion when it gets a bit hard for ya.

    Fuck off you dense cockhead. My position doesn’t rely on my demonstrating McGregor’s troonery “impinges on [my] freedoms”. What a pathetic moral landscape you inhabit.

  70. Primer says:

    Further: when a maximally treated, (genitalia removed, hormones added), male trannie is attracted to women does that make him a card carrying lesbian in woke eyes? I’d be appalled at any hint of discrimination.

  71. MatrixTransform says:

    that dress is designed divide and to ring-fence opinion and discourse.

    which I note, it has very neatly succeeded in doing

    its affect now reaches into your very language.
    controlling you tongue and addling your brain

    you’ll never be as pretty as she is.

  72. Baa Humbug says:

    Albatross says:
    May 2, 2021 at 10:52 am

    My position doesn’t rely on my demonstrating McGregor’s troonery “impinges on [my] freedoms”

    You don’t have a position except your phobia of a bloke in a frock. That’s all you’ve talked about post after post.

    Admit it mate, you’re either intimidated by the bloke or you’re turned on by him and are embarrassed for yourself, hence the lash out.

  73. BrettW says:

    Definitely some sort of issue going on based on his multiple negative comments every time McGregor is mentioned. Not normal. McGregor being trans is a non issue for me as has no impact on me.

    “Admit it mate, you’re either intimidated by the bloke or you’re turned on by him and are embarrassed for yourself, hence the lash out.

  74. Albatross says:

    phobia of a bloke in a frock

    Typical leftie propaganda. Implying I’m afraid of this broken man. Pathetic.

  75. Albatross says:

    Admit it mate, you’re either intimidated by the bloke or you’re turned on by him and are embarrassed for yourself

    Absolutely pathetic leftie propaganda. If you don’t accept sexual degeneracy, you are are sexual degenerate. KYS.

  76. Ed Case says:

    That’s quite a demure hairstyle Cate is sporting on Jonesy’s show, Albatross?
    Your thoughts?

  77. Albatross says:

    You are our least proficient troll, ShitEd.

  78. BrettW says:

    Note to CL. Why bother posting anything McGregor says as the usual suspects turn it into an opportunity to repeatedly criticise / insult trans.

    Oh wait, it sounds like they are fans of cancel culture as they attack the person not the message.

    I guess an important subject like treatment of SF guys will only be hijacked by those with trans phobia who have nothing to contribute on the actual subject.

    CL can we have a thread about Caitlin running for Gov of CA !?

  79. Albatross says:

    trans

    Propaganda.

    I guess an important subject like treatment of SF guys will only be hijacked by those with trans phobia

    “Support our Troons or you don’t Support our Troops.” Good one.

    CL can we have a thread about Caitlin

    Am sure that will be edifying. “‘Caitlyn’ is the one true choice for TrueCons(tm), and everyone who doesn’t agree with me secretly wants to pound Bruce Jenner’s front-hole.”

  80. Kneel says:

    “You don’t have a position except your phobia of a bloke in a frock.”

    Wear whatever you like.
    Get whatever surgery you like.
    Take whatever drugs you like.

    Just do your job well, that’s all I ask.
    Oh, and stop changing the language.

    “Sex” is biological – human development, including brain development, is affected by this genetic difference. That is an undeniable fact. The vast majority (99+%) are either XX or XY. Each has different and usually complimentary attributes – one is not overall “better” than the other.
    “Gender” is linguistic (largely unused in English), and there are only three – masculine, feminine & neuter.

    You are not “transgender” you are “transsexual”.
    You’re not “transitioning”, you’re cross-dressing and taking drugs.
    As is your want, presumably.
    Where there is no direct impact on me, what do I care?

    Stop telling me a have to speak in certain ways.

    If you present as a male, I’ll call you “he”. If you present as female, I’ll call you “her”. That’s because in 99+% of cases, that is what that individual wants anyway, so in truth it’s the “path of least offense”. If you ask politely, I’m happy to change that. But if you suggest I must use your “preferred pronoun”, then you must use mine, which is “His Highness”. (And as a matter of fact, I do actually have British royals in my ancestry – a long time ago, and I’m probably 106,872,423rd in line to the throne, and probably even further away, but the connection is there)

  81. MatrixTransform says:

    the usual suspects turn it into an opportunity to repeatedly criticise / insult trans.

    Oh wait, it sounds like they are fans of cancel culture as they attack the person not the message.

    obviously, you don’t get how that works.
    you literally just went on a tirade attacking the man rather than the message

    see, this is the problem with identity politics
    one speech-code for you and another for everybody else

    and this is why you are wrong

  82. Albatross says:

    the problem with identity politics

    Apparently “identity politics” now encompasses any position which doesn’t embrace to most wanton excesses of identarianism. Idiocy.

    This is the problem forming your political and moral philosophy, cargo-cult style, from memes fed to you by your elite class. Turn off your television people.

  83. BorisG says:

    CL can we have a thread about Caitlin running for Gov of CA !?

    After an initial bemusement, I think it is GOP’s ingenious way to troll Californians. Hilarious.

  84. BrettW says:

    Funny but I regard him as more of low IQ bogan than a man.
    I guess you must mean the “message” that he keeps repeating every time McGregor is mentioned. He has no message beyond juvenile insults.

    “you literally just went on a tirade attacking the man rather than the message”.

  85. MatrixTransform says:

    you did it again, retard

  86. Andre Lewis says:

    I notice some posts informing us that McGregor has had surgery to claim a different sex to that born. If the operation also implanted a working womb and ovaries it is not much more than cosmetic. More to the point how does anyone actually know whether someone has had this surgery or not?

  87. Albatross says:

    Andre Lewis says:
    May 3, 2021 at 9:56 am

    I notice some posts informing us that McGregor has had surgery to claim a different sex to that born. If the operation also implanted a working womb and ovaries it is not much more than cosmetic. More to the point how does anyone actually know whether someone has had this surgery or not?

    You want a red/black pill – read up about the “neovagina” surgery, what it is, and what long-term management is required. Look into why Johns Hopkins stopped doing these decades ago.

    They want this for our children.

  88. Albatross says:

    low IQ bogan

    Oh no! What could be worse than behaviours that don’t directly ape my betters!? Imagine others thinking I am some kind of prole! Am I drinking the right wine? Do I have the right set of attitudes? Am I sending out the appropriate class signifiers? Better fully embrace troonery lest others think I work for a living or, worse yet, drink domestic beer…

  89. Luke73 says:

    Male to Female “Trans” that retain an attraction to females are way more dodgy imo

    I’m more inclined to believe it’s genuine and not some weird sexual kink and/or deranged dating tactic if 1) they easily “pass” i.e. actually look like females 2) they are attracted to genetic males.

    On the BRS thing, I have to admit I haven’t been following the case very closely but are not some of the people that reported him ex-SASR themselves?

    If other Aussie SF soldiers had a big problem with his conduct then I think that needs to be taken extremely seriously.

  90. Vicki says:

    If other Aussie SF soldiers had a big problem with his conduct then I think that needs to be taken extremely seriously.

    You need to research the copious info on this matter. Historically, there has been an enormous amount of rivalry during the long period of our involvement in Afghanistan between special forces groups. This has led on occasion to personal vendettas etc. This seems to be the background for the backgrounding of the ABC and other hostile media to allegations.

    The BRS matter may be part of this.

  91. Vicki says:

    Wish comments on the thread could get past the gender issue of McGregor.

    McGregor is a damn excellent analyst of contemporary society & brings particular expertise to the war crimes issue.

    BTW McGregor is also damn fine cricketer, and cricket commentator.For what that is worth.

  92. Albatross says:

    Vicki says:
    May 3, 2021 at 5:24 pm
    Wish comments on the thread could get past the gender issue of McGregor.

    Wish away. I wish we never abandoned property-owning household suffrage, for example.

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