China’s emissions have just gone past the emissions from the whole of the developed world!

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From China’s emissions now exceed all the developed world’s combined published at Bloomberg. And because it is Bloomberg they try to make excuses for China:

The massive scale of China’s emissions highlights the importance of President Xi Jinping’s drive to peak carbon emissions before 2030 and reach net-zero by 2060. China accounted for 27 per cent of global emissions. The U.S., the second biggest emitter, contributed 11 per cent while India for the first time surpassed the European Union with about 6.6 per cent of the global total.

Still, China also has the world’s largest population, so its per capita emissions remain far less than those of the U.S. And on a historical basis, OECD members are still the world’s biggest warming culprits, having pumped four times more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere than China since 1750.

The Chinese government intends to reach net-zero emissions 39 years from now. Our media are such ignorant clowns, but at least they did tell us where Chinese emissions have now gone. The OECD, it might be noted, includes Australia who is not anywhere near the main contributor to the total.

Might just mention here the Candu Reactor which is used by Ontario Hydro to produce nuclear energy and has been doing so since the 1960s, when I used to work for them (maybe it was in 1970). It’s amazing what a superstitious lot the left really are in in opposing nuclear energy.

And they are aiming for “net-zero” emissions which is not the same as zero emissions:

Getting to net zero means we can still produce some emissions, as long as they are offset by processes that reduce greenhouse gases already in the atmosphere.

Gullible does not even come close to describing what utter clowns we are dealing with. Fantasy from end to end.

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34 Responses to China’s emissions have just gone past the emissions from the whole of the developed world!

  1. FlyingPigs says:

    Buy more Chinese Windmills and Solar Panels you bastards.

  2. mundi says:

    To be fair…
    There are actually more people in China than the entire OECD.

  3. Dr Faustus says:

    Everyone will be claiming Net Zero by 2060.

    The opportunity for sellers of offsets will be enormous. And they will be in Africa and South America and clients of China.

    Circular flow for those in on the joke.

  4. Ubique says:

    China’s emissions as depicted are just what the CCP chooses to report. China’s real emissions may be double that level. And still it makes sweet fa difference to climate, sea levels, or the mating habits of wildebeest.

  5. Lrp says:

    The media haven’t got a clue. The fictional accelerated warming is counted from 1970s because of the previous warmer periods at lower CO2 levels. Also, there is no historical basis for CO2 caused warming because the residence time of CO2 in atmosphere is about 4 years; in other words emissions from 1790 don’t affect the climate of 2021.

  6. Mark M says:

    Q. How high must a carbon (sic) tax be before the carbon (sic) tax prevents freezing doomsday global warming flooding heat waves …

    EU says carbon (sic) price has to be ‘much higher’ to hit climate goal
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-07/eu-says-carbon-price-has-to-be-much-higher-to-hit-climate-goal-koe3n7ij

    A. If you believe that, you deserve to be diddled.

  7. Albatross says:

    China does most of the West’s manufacturing.

  8. mareeS says:

    Can we now call CCP for what it is: A rogue state?

  9. Bear Necessities says:

    For the West all the ‘easy’ emissions cuts have been made and it has hardly moved the total emissions line. Zero emissions is a fantasy.

  10. herodotus says:

    Right, so Australia has to cruel its energy and industries to save the planet?
    We live in The Age of Stupid.

  11. Crossie says:

    FlyingPigs says:
    May 7, 2021 at 11:50 pm
    Buy more Chinese Windmills and Solar Panels you bastards.

    And electric cars.

    I saw somewhere that one in four California electric car drivers have gone back to petrol cars.

  12. Crossie says:

    Ubique says:
    May 8, 2021 at 1:34 am
    China’s emissions as depicted are just what the CCP chooses to report. China’s real emissions may be double that level. And still it makes sweet fa difference to climate, sea levels, or the mating habits of wildebeest.

    If the “developed” world really wanted to establish China’s level of emissions I’m sure there are satellite technologies that could be used. Where there’s a will there’s a way. Currently the world leaders are in China’s pocket.

  13. Crossie says:

    herodotus says:
    May 8, 2021 at 6:47 am
    Right, so Australia has to cruel its energy and industries to save the planet?
    We live in The Age of Stupid.

    Our “leaders” are not stupid, they are evil.

  14. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    And because it is Bloomberg they try to make excuses for China

    They appear to be under-reporting Chinese CO2 emissions too. As at 2018 the IEA has China consuming 2866 Mtce of coal. That equates to 10.5 Gt of CO2 just from coal use. You can’t tell me all the gas consumption, wood burning, petrol and diesel and fuel oil usage adds up to only 3.5 Gt more. The proportion of energy usage for electricity generation in an economy is usually less than half.

    Of course it may just be Chinese data publishing. They have an incentive to not report their data accurately.

  15. Forester says:

    We could build a suite of CANDU cores in a power stations at Port Pirie SA beside Spencers Gulf, using straight uranium, thorium and other countries waste. They could power SA, export to the rest of the country, desalinate water for irrigation and train Australian nuclear scientists.

  16. Fair Shake says:

    The word gullible was recently removed from the Oxford Dictionary.

  17. Eyrie says:

    mareeS says:
    May 8, 2021 at 5:52 am
    Can we now call CCP for what it is: A rogue state?

    Which State isn’t? They are all run by thieves and murderers.

  18. Karabar says:

    We shoot ourselves in the foot by constantly talking about “emissions”.
    THEY produce more “emissions than US.
    We don’t produce enoght “emissions” to affect the globe.
    For the love of GOD, “emissions” of CO2 are in NO WAY relative to the weather!
    We play right into the hands of Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates with this obsession with “emissions”.
    And it is exactly the same thing with the CASES. It is only a few months ago that a CASE was someone with an illness. Now the CASES are healthy people that produced a false positive on a defectdive test. It is the same medacious thing as EMISSIONS,

  19. Professor Fred Lenin says:

    Chinese pollution is cleaner than western pollution ,its like chinese food ,an hour after you eat it you are hungry . Asl the western polliescum they have bought .

  20. Roger says:

    But we’re to blame!

  21. egg_ says:

    China does most of the West’s manufacturing.

    Yup, aren’t we offsetting our “pollution” by offshoring it and paying poor folk carbon taxes?

    Didn’t the Russian mafia rip off the EU to a tune of $1 Billion of carbon credits?

  22. egg_ says:

    ABC and SBS have been promoting a story by an Oz Minerals Council Researcher justifying us digging up minerals to fuel production by poor little brown folk overseas.

    An election jerbs booster for Albo?

  23. egg_ says:

    Mining our way to net zero

    There’s an uncomfortable reality about reaching net zero that’s not often discussed.

    It’s that getting there might mean a whole lot more environmentally challenging mining.

    At a virtual summit of leaders last week, everyone agreed the days of coal, oil and gas were numbered, and wind, solar and batteries were the key to the future.

    So where are we going to get the raw materials to build them?

    Today on The Signal, we look at the mining boom we’re going to need for the energy transition, and ask whether we’re ready for the new environmental and human challenges it could create.

    Featured:
    ‪Dr Eleonore Lebre, Research Fellow, Sustainable Minerals Institute, University of Queensland

  24. Kneel says:

    “There’s an uncomfortable reality about reaching net zero that’s not often discussed.

    It’s that getting there might mean a whole lot more environmentally challenging mining.”

    Why is Australia “bad”, when we export most of what we produce in the energy intensive industries? Why are CO2 emissions from iron ore mining counted against us, when the vast majority goes to fuel Chinese goods sold to other countries? Ditto coal and natural gas. Why are farming emissions counting against us, when we export mega-tonnes of food? Where do carbo-hydrates get their carbon, if not from atmospheric CO2?
    We are not “bad” at solar and wind – per capita, we installed more renew-a-bubbles than anywhere else on the planet (in per capita terms, no-one else comes close!), but we are still “not doing enough”?

  25. Up The Workers! says:

    Hmmm… maybe the Chi-Coms can adapt their Chinese Cheating Machines which did such a spectacular job in conjuring up those 81 million 4.30am invisible voters for Silly Old Senile Paedo-Joe and the Dementiacrats at the recent bogus U.S. Presidential elections, to monkey with the pollution stats for China and pretend that they are far better than they really are?

    Wouldn’t be too much of a stretch, surely.

  26. Up The Workers! says:

    On a per-capita basis, Tasmanians actually produce about half as much pollution as do other Australians.

  27. buckshot says:

    And on a historical basis, OECD members are still the world’s biggest warming culprits, having pumped four times more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere than China since 1750.

    According to Wikipedia, “the atmosphere has a mass of about 5.15×10^18 kg“, or about 5.15 million billion tonnes. So one part per million (ppm) equates to about 5.15 billion tonnes.

    Atmospheric CO2 concentration has reportedly increased from about 270 ppm pre-industrial revolution, to about to 410 ppm today – a difference of 140 ppm. So the total additional CO2 in the atmosphere = 140 x 5.15 billion = 721 billion tonnes.

    China is stated as now being responsible for 27 percent of total emissions, which looks like about about 13.5 billion tonnes per annum from the graph above. So that makes total reported human-caused emissions about 50 billion tonnes per annum.

    The additional 721 billion tonnes in the atmosphere, since 1750, equates to about 14.5 years of emissions at current rates. Okay, emissions have been increasing, so the additional CO2 may represent around 25 to 30 years of global human caused emissions. But to accuse developed countries as being the biggest culprits is just ludicrous.

    And where would developing country emissions be if they had to start from scratch to develop efficient Rankine-cycle heat engines used in most base load power stations, or internal combustion engines? Do developed countries get ‘credits’ for enabling developing countries to start with a more efficient process?

  28. rickw says:

    Meanwhile the idiot politicians cripple our country with world’s highest electricity prices when our natural abundance of coal means we should have the cheapest.

    Sick.

  29. RobertS says:

    So carbon dioxide comprises about .041% of the atmosphere.
    Anyone know what is the ideal amount?
    Anyone like to hazard a guess?

  30. Squirrel says:

    The “historical basis” argument now being deployed by the China apologists is just so much bullshit – how the hell would they know what emissions were for any country 50 or 100 years ago when there’s so much fudging and guesstimation about contemporary figures.

    They might as well say that “the West” collectively owes China for the opium trade and the Opium Wars and just leave it at that.

  31. Boambee John says:

    RobertS says:
    May 8, 2021 at 3:34 pm
    So carbon dioxide comprises about .041% of the atmosphere.
    Anyone know what is the ideal amount?
    Anyone like to hazard a guess?

    At around 0.018 to 0.02%, plant life ceases to grow. Animals have no plants to feed on, we all die. So somewhere above that.

    With the recent increase in CO2 in the atmosphere, deserts are greening, crop yields are up. We are probably short of the optimum at present.

  32. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    So carbon dioxide comprises about .041% of the atmosphere.
    Anyone know what is the ideal amount?

    Yes. Ag people bump it up to about 1,000-1,100 ppmV in their greenhouses for maximum productivity. About 2.5 times the current level in the atmosphere. So we have a way to go yet. But even the move from 280 to 410 is having large benefits.

    Fantastic Findings: German Study Shows Added CO2 Has Led To 14% More Vegetation Over Past 100 Years! (7 May)

  33. Crossie says:

    At around 0.018 to 0.02%, plant life ceases to grow. Animals have no plants to feed on, we all die. So somewhere above that.

    With the recent increase in CO2 in the atmosphere, deserts are greening, crop yields are up. We are probably short of the optimum at present.

    Wilful ignorance will kill us not any global warming.

  34. Crossie says:

    Yes. Ag people bump it up to about 1,000-1,100 ppmV in their greenhouses for maximum productivity. About 2.5 times the current level in the atmosphere. So we have a way to go yet. But even the move from 280 to 410 is having large benefits.

    At the university where I work there are experimental greenhouses and other facilities working out just such outcomes and at the same time other departments carry on about carbon emissions that are supposedly going to kill us. Academia is all cognitive dissonance.

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