Hypocritic Oaf

[P]oliticisation and negative media about the vaccination program has led to a situation where many people are wondering why they would have the vaccine.”

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– Vice-president of the Australian Medical Association, Chris Moy, is annoyed that Australians (correctly) feel safe from coronavirus and wants the government to start scaring them into vaccination with a dedicated propaganda campaign. Last year, leftist Moy worked tirelessly for the passage of South Australia’s extremist abortion ‘reform’ bill. In 2019, he objected to the Religious Freedom Bill because it would permit doctors not to kill unborn children.

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44 Responses to Hypocritic Oaf

  1. miltonf says:

    There are some seriously creepy doctors out there. Von Einem was a medical student for a while iirc.

  2. Damon says:

    Since the survival rate for coronavirus infection, even among the elderly, is reported to be better than 99%, a general reluctance, even among medical professionals, to participate in what is effectively an Australia-wide, unmonitored clinical trial, is quite understandable.

  3. shady says:

    The AMA is nothing but a doctor’s union masquerading as a health department.

  4. The BigBlueCat says:

    [P]oliticisation and negative media about the vaccination program has led to a situation where many people are wondering why they would have the vaccine.

    And further politicisation of the vaccine program will lead to a situation where it becomes mandatory. That’s Moy’s end-game here. People are rightly questioning the value of the vaccination so they can make their own, informed choices regarding their personal health outcomes.

    Dying from COVID is 0.0036% – and it’s a totally random event, and probably much lower giving the sketchy “dying with COVID” stats. Whereas a mandatory jab has a 0.0003% chance of death (2 in 750,000). That’s 75 people in Australia’s population will die if the jab becomes mandatory. Versus the 910 deaths from/with COVID, most of which were entirely preventable but for the Andrew’s government’s (alleged) mishandling of quarantine and aged care facilities.

    Full disclosure: I have not had the vaccine, and will only do so once there is more data on the health outcomes on those who have. It’s a*seholes like Moy who are giving the AMA a really bad odour.

  5. Cynic of A says:

    The AMA doesn’t represent all Doctors.
    miltonf is correct, and I’d put a few shekels on all of them are members of the AMA.
    To put it another way, 30% of Doctors recommend the vaccination. This is, of course, not true, as non-members recommend it too.
    Doctors are like every other trade. You have to find a good one among the duds.
    From Wiki (with due caveat about Wiki.)
    The AMA represents slightly fewer than 30% of all Australian doctors, down from previous levels of 95% in 1962 and 50% in 1987.[2][3][4] The rate of membership amongst Australian GPs is lower than for other doctors, with approximately 6000 out of 45000 GPs being AMA members. Engagement of GPs by the AMA is lower than for the RACGP and ACRRM.[5] In 2020, the incoming AMA President Omar Khorshid claimed in an interview that the AMA could still advocate on behalf of all doctors, even though only 30% of doctors supported the AMA through membership.[6]

  6. Gerry says:

    We’re sitting ducks because the AMA, among others, won’t allow Ivermectin and HCQ to be used …. the link between doctors, their education and pharmaceutical giants is corrupt ……

  7. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “shady says:
    May 20, 2021 at 11:33 am
    The AMA is nothing but a doctor’s union masquerading as a health department.”

    Correct, the AMA does not represent most doctors…and Moy is a far-left progressive.

    And I have to laugh at Moy’s statement “Politicisation and negative media about the vaccination program has led to a situation where many people are wondering why they would have the vaccine“…ahem…so whilst we’re on the subject of “politicisation and negative media“….does Dr Moy have any thoughts about the deliberate politicisation of hydroxychloroquine…all because Donald Trump endorsed its use as a treatment and the deliberate politicisation of ivermectin? God these people are hypocrites.

  8. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    Sometimes scientific studies can be wonderfully ironic.

    Bullsh*tting: The pros and cons of using empty and misleading communication (19 May)

    People adopt the practice of ‘bullsh*tting’ in the workplace because it can allow them to become a member of the professional community.

    A paper by Professor André Spicer, Professor in Organizational Behavior at the Business School (formerly Cass), explores the concept of bullsh*tting—which is common in many organizations—as a social practice.

    “Playing the Bullsh*t Game: How Empty and Misleading Communication Takes Over Organizations’ explains how certain speech communities—a group of people sharing a common language or dialect—encourage bullsh*tting because it can reinforce their identity, negotiate practical challenges, and ensure their work can be carried out in a particular community.

    As a result, bullsh*tting can become routine practice inside an organization.

    Couldn’t possibly have happened to the AMA, the CDC and all these white coat expert societies. Unthinkable!

  9. Tom says:

    Hypocritic Oaf

    Up there with Tim Blair in the headline-writing honours class, CL.

  10. Mark M says:

    Tucker Carlson Today – Dr Peter McCullough – May 7, 2021

    The most published peer reviewed expert in China virus.

    @21.00 minutes he talks about the Queensland government fining Queensland doctors and six months jail for administration of HCQ, ivermectin.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F7cLxs8fNq8

    The full 45 minutes is worth the time.
    Warning: You might get angry.

  11. Rex Anger says:

    @ Bruce of N-

    Sounds like The Stupidity Paradox, but far more blunt…

  12. John Bayley says:

    Whereas a mandatory jab has a 0.0003% chance of death (2 in 750,000).

    Let’s be clear here:

    We have NO idea whatsoever just what the ‘chance of death’ from the ‘vaccine’ will eventually turn out to be. Because we haven’t bothered to test over a reasonably long period – and there is no way to short cut that.

    We DO know that the ‘spike’ proteins the ‘vaccines’ make your body produce are in themselves pathogenic and are the reason for blood clotting. In fact we knew that as early as 2007.

    However only time will tell what other effects there may be (ADE and similar).

    Because the other thing we most definitely DO know already is that there has never been a successful coronavirus vaccine, despite decades of trying, and that there never has been a mRNA ‘vaccine’ that did not in the end kill the test animals.

    On the already available data, we also know that for the vast majority of healthy people under 65, the ‘vaccines’ represent a significantly higher risk of dying than actually getting the WuFlu.

    If anyone wants to be a guinea pig with those odds, by all means knock yourselves out. Just be aware that the ‘knocking out’ may turn out to be literal.

  13. Roger says:

    The AMA represents slightly fewer than 30% of all Australian doctors, down from previous levels of 95% in 1962 and 50% in 1987.

    Yet they’re still the go to medicos for the lazy and incurious media.

  14. ozmango says:

    There is no better promoter of vaccines than the world’s most influential Dr. Gates.

    Poliomyelitis results in acute flaccid paralysis. But this is not so if a person has received the oral polio vaccine (OPV).   
     
    Bill Gates has been responsible since the year 2000 for the people of India receiving OPV and claiming that polio is no longer a threat. 

    Not only has Acute Flaccid Paralysis (AFP) increased substantially, so has the Non Polio Acute Flaccid Paralysis (NPAFP). In fact, there are more than 653,106 cases of AFP and 642,370 cases of NPAFP (total 1,295,476) that exist in vaccinated people since polio–the main cause of acute flaccid paralysis–has been eliminated. 

    The correlation between the OPV and increase in AFP and NPAFP has been documented, but this has nothing to do with the vaccinations because polio has been eliminated. 

    The parallel between polio and COVID-19 being addressed through vaccination is too aligned to be coincidental. 

    Bill Gates has been predicting trajectories of the plandemic and offering his guidance of how many injections people will require to return back to normal–not the old normal, rather the “build back better” vaccine passport normal.  

    COVID-19 was never isolated and placed in a mono-culture to scientifically prove its existence. Instead it was created in a laboratory for delivery through injections to increase the number of severe illnesses and deaths; not just in the aged, but the full spectrum of the population who have received the mRNA or adenovirus GMOs shots

    Pathologist, Dr Ryan Cole, MD: “We’ve seen more deaths from this shot than all vaccines in the last 20 years com — and that’s just in the first 4 to 5 months…3% of injuries from the Covid vaccine will be permanent… that’s 3 million with a permanent injury.”

    What is well documented is that poliomyelitis disappears when sewage systems are installed in residential and public premises. Although, the vaccine lobbyists protest that only vaccinations prevent poliomyelitis–i.e. acute flaccid paralysis. In the mind of the gullible it does when you change the name to AFP or NPAFP. Sounds familiar: Flu disappears as COVID-19 appears.

  15. mh says:

    …does Dr Moy have any thoughts about the deliberate politicisation of hydroxychloroquine…all because Donald Trump endorsed its use as a treatment and the deliberate politicisation of ivermectin? God these people are hypocrites.

    Cassie, the whole idea of treating Covid positive people was shunned from the beginning.

    As outlined by Dr Peter McCullough.

  16. Judge Dredd says:

    The AMA has long been a converged and communist organization full of sad and pitiful men that bend the knee to the god of this world. I wouldn’t listen to a word they say.

  17. Old School Conservative says:

    Warning: You might get angry.

    I watched it.
    No might about it.

  18. Hasbeen says:

    Had my last session with my doctor yesterday regarding my recent carpal tunnel opp. His practice is one giving the jab locally. He asked me if I wanted an appointment for the jab. When I declined he said, “well I’m certainly not going to try to talk you into it”. “How about your usual flu shot? With your history a dose of the flu could be very dangerous” .

    That certainly indicates his response to the Corona virus vaccination issue.

  19. cuckoo says:

    Does this mean we’ll be subjected to a ‘hard-hitting’ Grim Reaper style ad campaign?

  20. Rex Anger says:

    Does this mean we’ll be subjected to a ‘hard-hitting’ Grim Reaper style ad campaign?

    It’s only cool if said Reaper has a papier-mache mask that resembles a C00f molecule. Painted green and with all the wibbly bits poking out the top.

    And maybe bites a prop bat’s head off.

  21. Franx says:

    A little disconcerting that the push for the covid vax is happening at the same time as a push to extend the criteria for legalising euthanasia.

  22. billie says:

    all the media were on board with the covid fear and terror messaging

    when someone died from AZ vaccine it was all over the news, it was everywhere

    now the media are trying to walk it back, as if they had nothing to do with the scepticism of the vaccines they themselves fed and nurtured, when it was about beating the other media to the story

    now they realise the community is concerned to the point of no longer believing them and they want the government to put out stern messages about why you should participate

    I heard one such this morning on the abc, the condescention fairly oozed from this bint’s tone. oh the concern, and yet more agreeable medical folks interviewed and the “problem” discussed and the heads shaken

    the media was complicit in the current situation, but now are dodging accountability (it’s the stupid people of course and where on earth do they get the idea there’s something wrong!)

    this is how the climate change story will go when it falls to bits, all the complicit actors behaving with wonder at how it all happened

  23. m0nty says:

    Does this mean we’ll be subjected to a ‘hard-hitting’ Grim Reaper style ad campaign?

    No. It should be more like an international tourism ad. In fact it should be exactly like an international tourism ad, as we only get to do tourism outside Australia once everyone is vaccinated.

  24. mh says:

    Cassie, the whole idea of treating Covid positive people was shunned from the beginning.

    As outlined by Dr Peter McCullough.

    Although your point is still correct of course.

  25. candy says:

    The AMA might call it politicisation but it seems to me just people being naturally a bit wary of a not fully tested, untried substance being injected into their bodies.
    “Trust me, I’m a doctor” kind of thing, is supposed to make it right.

    Nothing wrong with being wary, waiting for more information. It’s not a sin to be cautious.

  26. jupes says:

    many people are wondering why they would have the vaccine

    Well why should I have it? I will still have to quarantine when I return from overseas. I will still have to wear a mask whenever some petty tyrant orders it.

    What is the benefit?

  27. Up The Workers! says:

    When will the A.M.A. be bringing out the compulsory ‘Global Warming’ vaccine?

    Will it be as effective in creating work for undertakers, morticians, grave-diggers and Municipal Boneyards as Deadly Dan’s Socialist Syphilis/Wuhan “Bat Soup and Toad Initiative” vaccine has been?

  28. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    When will the A.M.A. be bringing out the compulsory ‘Global Warming’ vaccine?

    They came out with this one just before a certain virus appeared. Nice timing guys.

    https://ama.com.au/media/climate-change-health-emergency (19 Sep)

    The AMA has joined other health organisations around the world – including the American Medical Association, the British Medical Association, and Doctors for the Environment Australia – in recognising climate change as a health emergency.

    Proves they have brains of green sludge. I wouldn’t trust any AMA weenie near a syringe.

  29. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    (That’s from 19 Sep 2019 btw)

  30. Boambee John says:

    m0nty says:
    May 20, 2021 at 1:32 pm
    Does this mean we’ll be subjected to a ‘hard-hitting’ Grim Reaper style ad campaign?

    No. It should be more like an international tourism ad. In fact it should be exactly like an international tourism ad, as we only get to do tourism outside Australia once everyone is vaccinated.

    You want to travel internationally munty? Going by the reactions here, if you are going to wait for everyone to be vaccinated, don’t bother packing your bags.

  31. Bruce says:

    @Franx:

    “A little disconcerting that the push for the covid vax is happening at the same time as a push to extend the criteria for legalising euthanasia.”

    Like “random, retrospective abortion for the over fifties set”?

    “Brave New World”? Running Man” Redux?

    Follow the money and the “worst-possible case” scenarios and you won’t go far wrong, until the Tumbrel rolls up to your door.

    And stir in the resurgence of “Climate Crisis”, just to liven things up a bit.

    There is madness and apocalyptic malice afoot’; all unknowingly funded by the taxpayers.

  32. rickw says:

    Sitting Duck?

    My choice you freaks!

  33. Squirrel says:

    It really has been a champagne day for public messaging on all things virus and vaccine.

    Clotty from Marketing (who seems to have forgotten his job only exists because of a quaint notion called federation) mused aloud about vaccine passports for travel within Straya. Not to miss an opportunity to be the most liberal Liberal, Aunty Glad expressed doubt and displeasure at such a notion. “Yay” we all say – a voice of sanity.

    But the sanity did not last long, because Aunty Glad also had the cheery news that the widely beloved “check-in app” would be a fact of life for years to come, and one of her gallant courtiers was quick to point out that not using the app would be letting down the team (and would attract a big fine plus GST). So inter-state passports are bad, but intra-state passports are essential and will be enforced with an iron fist in the enchanted realm of Gladys-land.

    This, of course, would be the same “gold standard”, “world beating” check in app which has yet to find the mystery source of the BBQs Galore super-spreader event (or whatever it’s now being called).

    The other media triumph today was the news that we’ve now had 24 clotting cases (that they know of and are admitting to). This doesn’t sit well with the various claims from the “experts” that the chances of clotting are one in a million, or maybe one in a hundred thousand – and also raises serious doubts about the guesstimation process which decided that the AZ vaccine was not safe for under 50s but OK for those over 50.

    Making it up as they go along.

  34. Gorilla Dance Party says:

    The more they insist, the more I resist.

  35. Albatross says:

    m0nty says:
    May 20, 2021 at 1:32 pm
    […]
    No. It should be more like an international tourism ad. In fact it should be exactly like an international tourism ad, as we only get to do tourism outside Australia once everyone is vaccinated.

    In a just world you would be beaten severely and daily.

  36. H B Bear says:

    Clearly The Boy who Cried Wolf isn’t on the MBBS reading list

  37. Leo G says:

    The other media triumph today was the news that we’ve now had 24 clotting cases (that they know of and are admitting to). This doesn’t sit well with the various claims from the “experts” that the chances of clotting are one in a million, or maybe one in a hundred thousand – and also raises serious doubts about the guesstimation process which decided that the AZ vaccine was not safe for under 50s but OK for those over 50.

    Why give the less safe vaccine with the poorest efficacy to the age groups with highest risk of the worst outcomes from COVID infection?
    Because herd immunity.
    Young healthy people who have little or no risk of serious outcomes from COVID infection must nonetheless be persuaded to to take the jabs for the good of the collective. If those folk perceive that the risk from the jab appears similar to the risk from the infection, then there is a persuasion problem.
    The political response to the dilemma has been to offer the better vaccine to the younger groups.

  38. Barry says:

    Leo G says:
    May 20, 2021 at 9:17 pm

    Why give the less safe vaccine with the poorest efficacy to the age groups with highest risk of the worst outcomes from COVID infection?
    Because herd immunity.

    Same reason for all the annual publicity around flu jabs. The trivalent fluvax is basically ineffective on people over 70 due to immune system senescence. So they try to vaccinate everyone else to protect the old.

    The young take the risk of adverse events for someone else’s benefit. I can’t see how this is remotely ethical.

  39. Mr Johnson says:

    Government: “I can’t understand why polling still shows hesitancy over the vaccine.”
    Media: “Blood clotttt!!!”

  40. Albatross says:

    Mr Johnson says:
    May 21, 2021 at 5:29 am
    Government: “I can’t understand why polling still shows hesitancy over the vaccine.”
    Media: “Blood clotttt!!!”

    So you’d prefer the media just didn’t report deadly adverse reactions to the “vaccine”?

  41. John Bayley says:

    The political response to the dilemma has been to offer the better vaccine to the younger groups.

    The mRNA ‘vaccines’ are in no way ‘better’ than the AZ or J&J viral vector ones.

    They all have the same base problem with the ‘spike protein’, which they make your body produce, and which is in itself pathogenic and causes the clots.

    And just as there has NEVER been a successful ‘viral vector vaccine’ in the past, the very same applies to mRNA ones.

    Besides, the blood clots are just one potential problem out of several, and just which ones will turn out to be the worst cannot be known for several years yet.

    Anyone lining up for these ‘jabs’ is a total moron.

  42. Leo G says:

    The mRNA ‘vaccines’ are in no way ‘better’ than the AZ or J&J viral vector ones.

    I used “better” in the narrow sense of efficacy as reported in clinical trials and not observational tests and limited the comparison to the two vaccines presently available in Australia.
    The course of the epidemic in the US indicated that 80 per cent of COVID-related deaths were from those aged 65+ years. It has also been reported that more than 90 per cent of COVID deaths of people up to 55 years of age involved significant comorbidities.
    This suggests that perhaps 99 per cent of COVID deaths are from a readily identifiable group comprising less than 20 per cent of the population.
    If this is so, then how is it ethical to pursue herd immunity that would require 75 percent vaccination of the 80 per cent of the population who have no significant risk of serious adverse outcome from COVID infection.
    It appears more ethical to abandon the goal of herd immunity by vaccination and vaccinate only the at-risk group to the extent that vaccination would offer a net benefit to a person from that group.

  43. bollux says:

    The Chief Health Officer [Jeanette Young 58] and the Premier of Queensland 51, have both refused the Astra Zeneca vaccine, making various childish excuses, despite browbeating us over 50’s to ” get vaccinated”.. Why there isn’t a national outrage about this I don’t know. The Australian refuses to acknowledge this fact and won’t print anything on it though the Courier Mail is on to it. The Oz just keeps printing endless tripe about Diana and her worthless son.

  44. The BigBlueCat says:

    The Chief Health Officer [Jeanette Young 58] and the Premier of Queensland 51, have both refused the Astra Zeneca vaccine

    We should insist they lead by example, or demand to know what they aren’t telling us.

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