Nobel Laureate Montagnier decries “historical blunder”

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38 Responses to Nobel Laureate Montagnier decries “historical blunder”

  1. Rosie says:

    What then is the solution?

    Though I see no point in the young and healthy being vaccinated.

    No-one in my family in young and healthy category are getting vaccinated.

  2. Roger says:

    What then is the solution?

    In as much as there is a solution we should look to Sweden.

    Protect the vulnerable and recommend common sense voluntary measures to the general population.

    I believe this was the consensus here a year or so ago.

    Sweden’s mortality rate (1,324.30 the most recent figure I’ve seen) is significantly lower than most of its European neighbours.

  3. Allergy says:

    What then is the solution?

    What about getting back to basics and looking at treatments?

  4. Shane says:

    Who was it who said the young are our future?
    Its beginning to sound like some sort of darwinian survival IQ test.
    Seeing that there are videos out there showing that the actual vial doesnt react to a magnet to attempt to debunk this meme, what on earth is going on inside the body for this to be occuring so often as it appears to be happening.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch/jazZkKQtGS4

  5. Rosie says:

    I was thinking about this. The truth is, in Australia, we don’t have a pandemic.

    The Europeans at least accept that some deaths are inevitable.
    Those in hospital are clearly getting treated with some degree of success.

  6. Paul says:

    No govt really wants to find out the truth about the communist virus, because of CCP intimidation and threats of trade war or even a hot war.
    The consequences might prove unbearable.
    The CCP win, unless the World cut all trade ties, but Western commies won’t do that to their comrades

  7. Paul says:

    Most poor countries who cannot afford the expensive vaccines and are taking the best route, HCQ and Ivermectin treatments.
    Cheap affordable and easily manufactured.
    If everyone is prescribed these, how quickly will the communist virus fade?

  8. PB says:

    Interesting that the guy with the unlikely name who wrote the typically American “Here’s why he’s wrong” type article seems to have only produced the one article for The Liar, er I mean The Wire. You could easily think he was called in (or created) purely for damage control purposes.

  9. PB says:

    “The CCP win, unless the …”

    This is above the CCP’s pay grade.

  10. Damon says:

    With a survival rate of better than 99%, and affecting mainly the elderly, this virus can hardly be classified as ‘dangerous’. It was driven by panicky politicians, ably abetted by the media, as a constant source of sensational headlines.

  11. HD says:

    Really? The following link in the second article quoted by currency lad:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_teleportation

    The section titled “The DNA transduction experiment”.

    Silly? In the mainstream academic paradigm- yes. Though the Stefan-Boltzman law is called a law for a reason. Perhaps there may be something to all that conspiracy stuff about 5G and China virus(?)

  12. Dr Faustus says:

    mass vaccination against the coronavirus during the pandemic “unthinkable” and a historical blunder that is “creating the variants”

    The trouble here is that the South African strain B.1.351 has been identified as in circulation in August 2020 and the UK strain B.1.1.7 in September 2020. Both well ahead of mass vaccination, which started in December 2020.

    Similarly with the New York and Indian mutations.

    Other than that he may well be correct.

  13. Judge Dredd says:

    It’s seems the Japanese know though. Apparently only 2% of their population has taken the not-vaccine. … and they are a very old population at that.
    They have a lot going for them the Japanese. No immigration, local manufacturing, mono-culture, no COVID vaccine.

  14. jupes says:

    What then is the solution?

    Protect the elderly and vulnerable.

    Don’t announce any ‘rona stats until the end of the year.

    Open all borders and end all ‘rona policies.

    Nobody will notice the stupid virus.

  15. Penny says:

    The pandermix vaccine was responsible for 25 deaths and was discontinued
    The adverse reactions and deaths (I know 7 people who have had reactions)
    Alan Jones, Andrew Bolt, Peta Credlin etc will not criticise these so called vaccines, won’t even utter the words experimental and gene based and that they have never been used in humans!! Is it because Sky is owned by News Corp which is controlled by the Murdoch’s who have huge interests in Glaxo Smith Kline??
    They will not show videos by Mike Yeadon, Sucharit Bhakdi, Dr Ryan Cole, Delores Cahill, Dr Tenpenny, I have sent links.. nothing
    A few weeks ago Rita Panahi and James Morrow were telling viewers all to get vaccinated, TV presenters have no business telling people to take paracetamol let alone an experimental jab
    In September the UK will start jabbing children… this is evil

  16. mh says:

    Notafan, you’re never going to get it.

  17. Roger says:

    They have a lot going for them the Japanese. No immigration, local manufacturing, mono-culture, no COVID vaccine.

    Yes; a pity about their demographics though. But we digress…

  18. Frank says:

    What then is the solution?

    Protect the elderly and vulnerable.

    Because we need to anyway, from all the other things that kill them off. If you’re a morbidly obese octogenarian with diabetes and stage four cancer and chemotherapy treatment has rendered your immune system inoperative… just about anything is going to kill you.

  19. mh says:

    A Nobel Laureate Said the New Coronavirus Was Made in a Lab. He’s Wrong.

    To tie a few strands together here, this is Russell Brand’s video which features amongst other things clips of Andrew Bolt interviewing Nicholas Wade:

    Covid Cover-Up: Did It Come From A Lab?
    720,549 views•May 13, 2021

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LgGPygFHh4

  20. BorisG says:

    Sweden’s mortality rate (1,324.30 the most recent figure I’ve seen) is significantly lower than most of its European neighbours.

    10 times higher than norway.

  21. BorisG says:

    I have read this old article by the Nobel laureate turned conspiracy theorist.

  22. C.L. says:

    It is not an article “by” the Nobel laureate.
    It was published on Wednesday. You have never read it.
    Montagnier is not a conspiracy theorist.

    Three out of three wrong.

  23. mh says:

    Boris,

    Three out of three IS bad 🎵

  24. twostix says:

    As the world sobers up, in the cold light of day it must be hard to accept you were so completely gripped by the insane mass hysteria that swept the world last year, right Boris? I bet you always fancied yourself an above-the-fray free thinker, not one of those mob hysteria types, prolish types.

    Yet in the moment of truth, there you were, at the very front of the mob.

    Remember when you were breathlessly telling us you knew “lots” of people dying from Covid?

    LOL.

    Go back to Russia fool, they’re looking for you, the FSB probably have some questions about the actions of your “prominent bolshevik” family last century.

  25. Maniac says:

    The 19 was a test by China to see how far we could be pushed. And we failed it with flying colors.

  26. BorisG says:

    DJ Trump has spearheaded the current vaccination drive. You can’t be a Trump supporter and against vaccines at the same time.

  27. Mark A says:

    BorisG says:
    May 23, 2021 at 2:51 am

    Boris,
    If you can post duplicates, so can I and you are still wrong it takes someone who blindly follows and ideology to never see a fault in the leader.

    DJ Trump has spearheaded the current vaccination drive. You can’t be a Trump supporter and against vaccines at the same time.

    That is just silly, Boris.
    It can only ever apply to someone like numbers, where ideology overrides common sense.

    In my world the leader is not always right, not often even, just mostly ambling in the right direction, but not perfect.

  28. Crossie says:

    Maniac says:
    May 23, 2021 at 12:57 am
    The 19 was a test by China to see how far we could be pushed. And we failed it with flying colors.

    I always thought it was the other way around, our leaders know well that they can’t trust the Chinese over anything and have assumed the worst. The assumption is that this was designed in the lab to start as a flu but will it mutate into something far worse and when. I think that why the drive for universal vaccination.

    If my theory is correct then China should be isolated right now so they are no longer able to do this again. ScoMo started down that road by demanding answers from the Chinese who overreacted by the numerous threats and trade sanctions. This tells me the Chinese are guilty, no ands ifs or buts.

  29. Mater says:

    DJ Trump has spearheaded the current vaccination drive. You can’t be a Trump supporter and against vaccines at the same time.

    WOW! Just WOW!

    All those big words, deep thoughts and highly philosophical posts over the years were, after all, just a facade of intelligence.

    You’ve forever implied that people who can see through the bluster and appreciate the positives of Trump, are just mindless, obedient lemmings, yet…

    Advocating blind, mindless obedience to a chosen one, Boris?
    Who is your Sun God?

  30. Penguinite says:

    Seems Word Press is blocking my access to Catfiles via Brave? “Ozblogistan is broken!”. Any thoughts please?

  31. herodotus says:

    I thought it wouldn’t be long before the left pinged Trump as the one to blame for any vaccine damage.
    But all the damage caused by leftist state officials has gone by without such comment from these recent critics. Most of them are still insisting that lockdowns, masks, and vaccinations are the path to salvation.

  32. Maniac,

    The 19 was a test by China to see how far we could be pushed. And we failed it with flying colors.

    The Wuhan Zombie Virus was two things:
    1. An attempt by the Chinese Communist Party to cause economic damage to a group of peoples who are standing in its path of world hegemony, and
    2. A ‘reconnaissance by fire’ as the military would term it, to see what our responses were to a bioweapon.
    It was a success as they now know how we will react and will plan accordingly.

  33. Lee says:

    DJ Trump has spearheaded the current vaccination drive. You can’t be a Trump supporter and against vaccines at the same time.

    You have confirmed yet again what a moron you are.

  34. BorisG says:

    You guys understand me incorrectly. I am not a fan of Trump, but objectively he did many good things. What I object to is people worshiping as some kind of god figure, which I saw on these pages time and again. Trump did many good things, of which leading the vaccine development was somewhere at the top.

    But keep pushing your mad conspiracy theories.

  35. Mater says:

    You guys understand me incorrectly.

    No, I didn’t.
    It’s got to be the dumbest assumption outside of a Bob/Monty comment.

    It’d be like saying that anyone who supported John Howard had to agree with his gun laws. A demonstrable falsehood.

    It was the comment of a small minded dickhead.

  36. Lee says:

    It’d be like saying that anyone who supported John Howard had to agree with his gun laws. A demonstrable falsehood.

    Correct.
    Boris would be the first to deny that because Biden advocates or supports something, Biden’s supporters (people like Boris) must go along with him on everything.
    It is a ridiculous argument.

  37. dover_beach says:

    But keep pushing your mad conspiracy theories.

    What is the ‘mad conspiracy theory’ here? That COVID was fabricated in a lab? Unless I see some convincing rebuttals of Wade’s and others points, both against the natural emergence scenario, and for the ‘fabricated in a lab’ theory, claims that this is just a ‘mad conspiracy theory’ appear like lazy and ineffective gas-lighting.

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