Malbanese Party kneecapped

Labor’s primary vote in the NSW Upper Hunter by-election: 20.8 percent.

I wouldn’t be rushing to jump to conclusions about this having big implications federally. I mean, it was a state by-election… I don’t accept that paradigm (of divisions over coal)… we’re very focused on working people around the country.”

– Federal Deputy Opposition Leader Richard Marles’ denial is deep enough to mine

 
A triumphant John Barilaro says Labor’s federal seats in the Hunter and the Central Coast are now “up for grabs.” I’d be more impressed if he’d taken the opportunity to declare a wholesale review of all Coalition policies intended to ‘tackle’ so-called ‘climate change.’ Instead of crowing, the Liberals should be charging. In the Beersheba sense, I mean.

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49 Responses to Malbanese Party kneecapped

  1. Roger says:

    Albo sent Geelong Grammar old boy Richard Marles to Moranbah (which he’d never previously heard of) after the 2019 election to find out why coal miners there didn’t vote for the ALP.

    That’s how much respect Albo has for coal miners.

  2. Iain Russell says:

    Posh Boy Marles, eh?! Good choice….heh, heh, heh.

  3. Lee says:

    Labor pollies in the past have claimed that even swings against state Liberal governments (never mind losses) in elections have implications for federal Liberal governments.
    Can’t have it both ways.
    Labor are in denial, as usual.

  4. Roger says:

    Posh Boy Marles, eh?! Good choice….heh, heh, heh.

    He reportedly came away aghast that the highest hotel motel rating was ***.

  5. Ed Case says:

    Are there any Underground Coal Mines left in Qld?
    Perhaps it would be more accurate to term them Colliery Employees?

  6. feelthebern says:

    Geelong Grammar old boy Richard Marles

    Richard Marles is very…ahem…active…with intervening on behalf of donors…I mean constituents….when it comes to government departments.

  7. Daily llama says:

    I remember the cameras of a current affairs show way back in the late 70s interviewing some striking Qld coal miners and one of them was wearing a t-shirt reading
    “Flo’s got one,
    Jo is one”
    Quite poetic, really.

  8. Spurgeon Monkfish III says:

    labore’s primary vote in the NSW Upper Hunter by-election: 21%

    LOL. That’s made my week. 🤣

  9. Bela Bartok says:

    Will the Stupid F&king Liberals wake up and realize they won because of coal, or will the bedwetters fail to capitalise?

  10. Spurgeon Monkfish III says:

    Bela – the latter, of course 😠

  11. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “Labor are in denial, as usual.”

    Correct…..the Labor party is in perpetual denial. The result in Upper Hunter is woeful for Labor. McKay is gone (and good riddance). All I can say is that it has renewed my respect for the working class voter….unlike the scabby elite in electorates like Warringah and Wentworth, the voters of Upper Hunter can see right hyperbole, lies and bullshit. Labor tried to pretend that it has suddenly fallen in love again with coal. That is a lie.

  12. Tel says:

    .. we’re very focused on working people around the country

    Same as the blacksmith is very focused on working steel.

  13. MACK says:

    According to the media, it’s only a climate change election when the result goes their way.

  14. Professor Fred Lenin says:

    Looks like the party will have to send some aparatchiki to theUSA to study the democrims election tactics, I mean the democrims got a foul corrupt old child molester made president . Next thing the left will be demanding the installation of dominion vote rigging machines from their comrades in china .
    They should have no difficulty finding sa child molester in the party ranks ,if the albanian fails nextelection.

  15. Tim Neilson says:

    Are there any Underground Coal Mines left in Qld?
    Perhaps it would be more accurate to term them Colliery Employees?

    Open-cut mining is still mining.

  16. Texas Jack says:

    I’m from the Upper Hunter electorate, and supported Layzell. Any satisfaction for Berejiklian in this outcome is utterly misguided.

  17. Ooh Honey Honey says:

    Texas, did you catch up with Mark Latham at the Singleton rodeo?

  18. Vagabond says:

    Nobody could despise the liars more than me but I do fear that they will win the next federal election. The libs are too stupid to learn the lesson from this. I will certainly be emailing my sopping wet liberal MHR to that effect. Unfortunately we are in for a terrible bidenesque time.

  19. Dunnybrush says:

    It’s been a long time since the ALP or the unions gave a fig about workers. They should both go back to worrying about transgender dunnies etc and let a real workers party rise. I pay fees to a union that encouraged my kids to skip school to protest that Gaia is offended about something. I complained that the union shouldn’t be using kids for political campaigns. The response? Kids should be at school but this is just such a big issue….. Disgusting people. Can’t remember the last time they negotiated a decent EBA either.

  20. Snoopy says:

    Swivel-eyed loons? Marles is the real deal.

  21. egg_ says:

    Albo sent Geelong Grammar old boy Richard Marles to Moranbah (which he’d never previously heard of) after the 2019 election to find out why coal miners there didn’t vote for the ALP.

    Speaking of cardigans from south of the border.

  22. egg_ says:

    Nobody could despise the liars more than me but I do fear that they will win the next federal election. The libs are too stupid to learn the lesson from this. I will certainly be emailing my sopping wet liberal MHR to that effect. Unfortunately we are in for a terrible bidenesque time.

    +1

    Scotty-from-Marketing risks the “mean and tricky” labelling that Howard copped, except Howard delivered wealth.

    “Hollow man” more likely.

  23. H B Bear says:

    Liar primary vote of 21% will have Gillard thinking about coming out of retirement to save the furniture.

  24. duncanm says:

    SFF and ON, which I imagine have quite an overlap in the demographics: 24.5%
    Greens: 3%

    there’s hope for us yet.

  25. Tim says:

    And the nationals primary vote was ?

    I dont know what they are crowing about

  26. RealWorld says:

    Of course they should – but the Turnbull/Photios /Kean watermelons still control the Libs
    Only chance of avoiding the “zero emissions” disaster for Australia is to force a Liberal party split. That would take hundreds of committed members in each electorate- not likely

  27. Mango Man says:

    ScoMo will have a net zero emissions target by Xmas. I suspect he’ll call an early election to avoid the Qld problem, though the Coalition has problems looming with green independents in a couple more safe seats and big issues in the WA branch. We may well be headed for long periods of cross bench reliance.

  28. Professor Fred Lenin says:

    We need more political parties in parliaments ,or we will end up being third world like America with two parties only .Both corrupted by their billionaire owners who make fifth rate politicians rich and keep their puppets in power till the are doddering pants crapping botox laden geriatrics who never worked a day in their lives ,professioal bludgers .our Uniparty is not quite that bad ,yet.

  29. exsteelworker says:

    Such a conundrum for the UNIONS, vote for against their jobs ALP or vote for LNP GAS COAL…decision decision.

  30. PB says:

    “That would take hundreds of committed members in each electorate- not likely”

    Even if you got that you would still need to turn a lot of journalists and opinion makers into the fertilizer they pump out, and deprogram at least two generations of young Australians.

  31. RealWorld says:

    PB
    The media are not as powerful as they think – and more people can see through the shallow hypocrites
    Yes the young are socialist- as Churchill said
    But on the whole Australians still get things right – we just don’t have a party to ask the right questions

  32. Squirrel says:

    Repeat after me, Jodi “just transition is bullshit” – reflect, inwardly digest, and you might, just, begin to understand what happened last night.

  33. LNP Insider says:

    I’d like to know where these Hunter and Central Coast seats are that the Deputy Premier claims.

    Dobell sure, but Newcastle never while Shortland and Paterson are dreaming.

    Hunter swung terribly against Labor last time, but we learnt the only way to have that fall from Labor would be One Nation leap frogging the Nats.

  34. Bruce says:

    @ed [email protected]

    “Are there any Underground Coal Mines left in Qld?”

    Funny you should ask. Much of teh traditional coal mining arounf Ipswich has faded away, but not all, apparently

    However, speaking of Moranbah and the associated Peak Downs mine try this:

    Peak Downs started as a surface-scraping operation, the coal seam was first discovered ON THE SURFACE; just lift off the dirt and gouge out the coal. However, the seam, is ENORMOUS, but it is tilted downwards towards the East. For years, the operation was classic open cut, with a huge electric drag-line excavator removing the overburden dirt, with the monster scrapers following behind to scoop up and dump the coal into the waiting serious trucks. Then, there is the rail line built to service the operation.

    As the scraping moved steadily eastwards, the amount of overburden being removed became an economical challenge, so the next development is “cut and collapse” underground mining, still heading down hill at a few degrees slope towards the coast.

    This deposit is vast; not some crappy little streak but wide and continuing past the coastline and out to an unknown depth under the Pacific Ocean. There are several other related coal mining operations in the same general district.

    It is not the only deposit like that in Queensland. The eco-nazis want to shut the whole industry down. Treasonous Luddites.

    My favourite bit of the story so far is that as part of the “environmental repairs” after mining at Peak Downs, the engineers did NOT just dump the soil back over the “pit” but “landscaped” it into sizeable ridges and hollows, and planted a wide array of appropriate native vegetation. As water settled in the hollows, the plants grew and the wildlife arrived. Not exactly like the dusty grasslands of yore. So, I expect the eco-loons will be bitching about that, as well.

    Final point. This coal is highly prized, not just because of the pretty-much guaranteed continuous supply, but because it is amongst the highest-grade coking coals in the world. One particular feature makes it even more desirable, globally; LOW Sulphur content. This is very important in steel-making., and especially in structural-grade stainless steels.

    Sulphur in a stressed steel and especially stainless-steel component or structure can lead to catastrophic failure. ‘Nuff said.

    Interestingly, Australian, and particularly Queensland-sourced petroleum is also extremely low in sulphur, unlike the sludge available from the Middle East.

    Ask the Russian rock-doctors about their theories on the REAL genesis of Petroleum; fascinating stuff..

  35. Tom says:

    …we’re very focused on working people around the country

    … while the lunatics running the ALP are hell-bent on exporting last of Australia’s manufacturing jobs to communist China as our electricity grid disappears into the ideological ether.

    Marles doesn’t believe the slogans he is mouthing.

    I laughed out loud. So is the CCP.

  36. Mother Lode says:

    I wouldn’t be rushing to jump to conclusions about this having big implications federally. I mean, it was a state by-election… I don’t accept that paradigm (of divisions over coal)… we’re very focused on working people around the country.”

    That’s right, Marles. People vote for their coal jobs in state elections, but against them federally.

  37. Herodotus says:

    Marles is about the same level of respectability here as Schumer, Schiff and Nadler in the USA.

  38. Up The Workers! says:

    “…we’re very focused on working people around the country.”

    Which country?

    China, of course!

    Labor(sic) would be doing allright in the Upper Hunter and everywhere else in Australia if only it weren’t for those bloody voters!

  39. miltonf says:

    Fascinating, in a nasty way, how a former workers’ party gets taken over by silver spoons and eggheads. As Santamaria described it- ‘this party of schoolteachers and left wing lawyers’.

  40. thefrollickingmole says:

    The Lab lady who won Feraldton is a massive silver spooner my sister went to school with.
    We are talking a lot of family money.a.lot.

    But all in for the wukkas now, those horny handed sons of toil.

  41. DaveR says:

    As a Vic tourist, I was in the Hunter last week, and traveled from Dubbo to Newcastle and back. I did not see one electric vehicle (probably missed a few hybrids). And 50% of the vehicles on the road were diesel. What transition? Is this the real Australia?

  42. miltonf says:

    Electric cars are crap- poor range, length of time to charge, an electricity grid not capable of supplying power for charging on the scale being suggested , batteries degrade through each charge-discharge cycle.

    Hybrids- maybe. Taxi drivers sure seem to like them. Batteries still degrade of course but people say they will last the 10 year design life of the car.

    Still interested in an eFour RAV4.

  43. miltonf says:

    Tradie utes seem to be the in thing right now even if you’re not a tradie. Ranger, D-max. I like that 3 litre diesel in the Isuzu.

  44. kraka says:

    Ed Case
    Are there any Underground Coal Mines left in Qld?
    Perhaps it would be more accurate to term them Colliery Employees?

    North Goonyella, Oaky Greek, Grasstree etc

  45. Mango Man says:

    When did the ALP last hold this seat? 1920? A lot of noise for not much value other than the fact that the Nats got up after their MP had to quit on accusations of rape. I see Singleton lost in the rugby on Saturday too.

  46. Rockdoctor says:

    And the nationals primary vote was ?

    I dont know what they are crowing about

    Exactly Tim. I mentioned yesterday PHON & SF&F together almost outpolled the Nat’s. I’ll have a look at historical trend but the ALP got 19% primary in 2011, 22% on the weekend. Nat’s in 2011 got approx 60% of the primary, Layzell 32% on the weekend. I wouldn’t be crowing either but here we are…

  47. Rockdoctor says:

    Kraka, forgot BMA Broadmeadow…

  48. Rockdoctor says:

    Ok, longish so feel free to scroll, also from this link and I double checked with the NSW Electoral Comission, seems OK for wikipedia:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_results_for_the_district_of_Upper_Hunter

    Pretty substantive back to the 1850’s and a pretty clear trend especially in the last 50 years.

    Fun fact the ALP has held Upper Hunter since Federation once for about a year.

    When they get popular members they generally poll very well, D’arcy Rose & George Souris both examples. Nationals/Country/Farmers generally averaged 50-55% primary in other times.

    So the last 50 odd years. From 1965 to 1970 Nationals held by 60% of the primary. The early part of the 1970’s seemed to be a fairly even contest till Col Fisher was elected then his primary mostly sat round 60%, ALP between 35 and highs of 45% when the Nats dipped to near 50%. ALP started trending towards 30% and in 1984 George Souris was preselected.

    George cemented the Nationals vote of around 60% of the primary, ALP languished around 30% with independents sometimes taking a slice. 2011 George’s last term had his worst primary of 54%, some of his vote and a substantial chunk of the ALP primary were taken by an Independent who ran second.

    2015 was Johnsen’s first run. ALP regained their losses and ran second but the Nat’s primary had plummeted to 34%. Johnsen’s position further eroded in 2019 but the ALP also lost 4% down to 28%.

    Fast forward to 2021 and Layzell lost a further 3% of the primary now down to 31% but the ALP primary was down 7% as well. The TPP shows a small swing to Layzell but Barillaro is kidding himself if he thinks this is a good result. I am of the opinion now the man is a bluffer.

    Lastly unless Layzell can win people over and we will have to wait to see how progressive his record is. I was prepared to give Sue Moore a go but the headshed intervened in that and I exhausted before getting to Layzell. From the decaying primaries of both majors all I can see here is a seat ripe for the pickings by an independent or a minor party with the right candidate. Bad result for the ALP but the Nationals still languishing, that would have to be perplexing some.

  49. Rockdoctor says:

    Sorry to be clear I have quoted primaries because TPP is a recent thing and in an OPV environment subject to ebbs & flows of voter whims.

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