David Bidstrup guest post. Will I be able to play the piano after I have been vaccinated?

The grand plan for mass vaccination seems to be losing wheels each day as our leaders dither about how they can give the plebs some “freedom” again. The supreme leader is now working on some system of internal “papers” so that we can be allowed to move for more than 5 minutes before being locked down because someone sneezes.

Along with this we now have a plethora of strident letters being written to the newspapers where those who agree with the old maxim “act in haste, repent at leisure” are being portrayed as “selfish” because they will not bend to the government will.

There are some things that need to be said about this fiasco.

Whether we “believe it” or not, these “vaccines” are experimental. They have emergency use authorisation only and the proper clinical trials to assess their effectiveness and safety have not been completed, and will not be for a couple of years. Emergency use is approved when there is no other means of combating the disease, but in this case that is not so. There has been success in treatment with existing drugs but in many cases they have been ruled out or banned by “authorities”.

Over 70 years ago there were trials where the Nazi death camp doctors were held to account for their treatment of inmates without their consent and with little regard for their humanity. Just about every civilised country incorporates the findings of these trials into their laws regarding medical experimentation and if you are not familiar with them go and have a look. The most important factor is voluntary informed consent and the absence of any coercion or force. Those who decide to be part of any medical experiment must be able to decide to stop at any time and those who are conducting the experiment must stop them if there is any cause for alarm. If our government has decided that these rules do not apply anymore they should tell us.

I do not recall the government asking the citizens if they wanted to take part in some global clinical trial of an experimental “vaccine” and I do not recall any information being promulgated about the “emergency use authorisation” or about the adverse reactions and deaths that seem to be common around the world. The “useful idiots” that write op-eds and reports in the arsewipes we call newspapers just parrot the government line and the “health experts” who stuffed the pandemic response up now appear in “advertisements” urging us to “roll our sleeves up for the good of everyone”.

My doctor asked me if I was going to get “vaccinated” and was surprised when I said I would not. After he rubbished the idea that I, a mere engineer, could fathom anything as complex as medical information I asked him where he got his. He said “from doctors”. I said Dr Mengele was also a doctor and he got a bit upset.

This situation has got boring and tedious in one respect and dangerous in another. Watching the politicians try to work out how to get out of being painted into a corner without looking stupid is amusing but the idea that we will soon have some sort of “papers” to be able to go about our daily lives is the thin edge of the wedge. Here in SA the citizens line up like Pavlov’s dogs to scan the QR code at the public dunny and we have a “state of emergency” extension to the end of 2021.

We have “travel bubbles”, “road maps”, (to nowhere), and the “National Cabinet”, (a mass gathering of all the incompetents). People complain that they want the Mickey Mouse vaccine but have to have the Donald Duck because of their age or because it’s out of stock.

We have perpetrated the greatest theft from future generations ever seen and consigned them to a lower standard of living than we had just because the authorities panicked. In the meantime one person has died of/with the virus in 2021 and daily “cases” are less than suicides and road accidents combined. I drove past one of our “Covid testing facilities” a day or so ago. There were 6 “traffic controllers” to manage the rush and 4 “testers” in Hazmat suits ready to stick things up people’s noses. The only thing missing were the “testees” – no one was there. How has it come to this, where the populace buckle under to the whims of incompetent fools who could not organise a pee up in a brewery? Why aren’t they out on the streets chasing these idiots down with pitchforks?

Thank goodness we had men of the calibre of my father and his comrades fighting in New Guinea over 75 years ago. If it happened now the ADF would raise the rainbow flag and do a handbag charge but not before scanning the QR code.

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74 Responses to David Bidstrup guest post. Will I be able to play the piano after I have been vaccinated?

  1. Snirtus says:

    I couldn’t understand why they would want to ban the use of Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin which have been safely used for many years, are inexpensive and appear to provide effective treatment when used as a prophylactic or in the early stages of Covid.
    Then I read that the emergency use of an experimental vaccine could not be authorised if an effective treatment existed.
    Could this absurdity be true?

  2. Up The Workers! says:

    “Will I be able to play the piano after I have been vaccinated?”

    The pollies and their favourite quacks have all been playing their pork sausage.
    They deserve to be castrated!”

  3. Adam D says:

    @ Woolfe,

    From the link:

    No part of the process has been rushed, and there was no emergency authorisation granted. The TGA does not have an “Emergency Use Authorisation” pathway for COVID-19 vaccines.

    and

    The TGA has engaged early with pharmaceutical companies about their vaccines and is accepting rolling data. This means that the TGA can assess clinical trial data as it becomes available, rather than at the end of the three clinical trial phases. This speeds up the review process.

    Whats the bet they continue this practice of innovation (which I support) in the future. Or will they be to busy banning vapes instead.

    A small anecdote from my area of expertise a product that is 20 years old and used widely to great effects was banned and marked as a schedule 10 drug (worse then heroin). Why you may ask, because in animal trials it caused one of the rats to develop cancer/tumor. What they forget to mention is that the rat was given a dose at 100 times recommended. Water will kill you at that dosage for christ sake.

  4. Figures says:

    From your link Woolfe:

    The TGA has engaged early with pharmaceutical companies about their vaccines and is accepting rolling data. This means that the TGA can assess clinical trial data as it becomes available, rather than at the end of the three clinical trial phases. This speeds up the review process.

    So they are using data that hasn’t been validated and checked to ensure there are no issues with bias, measurements etc but, apparently, we are supposed to believe they aren’t “rushing” the vaccine approval process.

    Their logic is astounding. If it was as easy as this to approve vaccines – and we all know each and every vaccine saves 800 bazillion lives every single day – then why didn’t they do it for all the other vaccines? The TGA are, according to their own logic, responsible for trillions of deaths by not applying this exact same process for all previous vaccines.

    They can’t have it both ways. Either the TGA are rushing the approval process in which case they should all be in prison or they aren’t rushing it in which case they should all be in prison for time wasting on all previous vaccines.

  5. Mark M says:

    Is ivermectin a cure for COVID-19?

    https://www.nps.org.au/ivermectin-and-covid-19

    What medicines can treat COVID-19?

    “In Australia, two medicines are recommended for use by some people hospitalised with severe COVID-19.
    You can learn more about the steroid dexamethasone and the antiviral medicine remdesivir on our website.
    You can also read the living guidelines from the National COVID-19 Clinical Evidence Taskforce .
    These guidelines are helping Australian health professionals provide the best evidence-based care to people with COVID-19.”

    >> Living on the NSW/QLD border, and knowing the Qld Govt. will jail any doctor for six months if they treat the virus with HCQ, ivermectin etc, I thought perhaps a NSW doctor could treat the virus with above.
    I didn’t find the info, but found above link.

  6. billie says:

    what’s happening in India these days?

    I heard that they started treating with ivermectin and the cases have dropped away massively

    anyone able to corroborate that?

    why are we hearing nothing about India right now?

    apparantly ita buttrose got onto morning radio today, abc, to robustly refute claims the media had made hysterical claims about covid and the vaccines and were part of the problem .. ha ha she’s good on the old attack is the best defence isn’t she? amazing what she ignores too

  7. Roger says:

    My doctor asked me if I was going to get “vaccinated” and was surprised when I said I would not. After he rubbished the idea that I, a mere engineer, could fathom anything as complex as medical information I asked him where he got his. He said “from doctors”. I said Dr Mengele was also a doctor and he got a bit upset.

    I seem to recall the Commonwealth CMO – since promoted – saying that the modelling of the expected pandemic in Australia, on which the lockdown response was based, was too complex for mere mortals to understand. Later it was revealed that a mathematical error had been made which resulted in the predicted deaths being exaggerated by an order of magnitude.

    I bet an enginner would have picked that up.

  8. twostix says:

    No part of the process has been rushed, and there was no emergency authorisation granted.

    lol.

    So those multi-year stage three clinical trials are all done then?

    And there’s no “emergency authorisation” the TGA – a handful of highly vulnerable to politics – dumbo public servants in Canberra and Sydney simply waved it through on the ‘we promise’ say-so of the manufacturers and wink and a nod of the (pharma executive ridden) US / UK health agency data.

    That the TGA is not allowing these under some sort of limited emergency authorisation – as their foreign counterparts are, is an even bigger scandal.

  9. Terry Pedersen says:

    Another case of bullshit trying to baffle brains.

    Forget Bidstrup’s rubbish. Here is what you need to know.

    Australia has made a full and thorough assessment of the Pfizer and AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccines.

    The Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) provisionally approved these vaccines after a complete assessment of all the available data. This is the same process as any vaccine approved in this country. The TGA will only register and approve a COVID-19 vaccine if it is safe and effective.

    No part of the process has been rushed, and there was no emergency authorisation granted. The TGA does not have an “Emergency Use Authorisation” pathway for COVID-19 vaccines.

    Some countries are using versions of Emergency Use Authorisations (such as the UK, US and Canada) to urgently make vaccines available. This is because of the large number of COVID-19 cases and risk in those countries.

  10. Figures says:

    Too right twostix. What’s more, ScoMo and Hunt *told us* these vaccines were going to be approved – and when.

    How could they know this unless the whole approval process is a gigantic scam?

    They should have said “we have absolutely no idea if and when these vaccines will be approved because we have absolute no preconceived notion as to whether or not they should be. The great minds of science at the TGA will ask as many questions as they need to and if they are not satisfied with the answers then either the vaccines won’t be approved or the process will continue until such time as the answers are forthcoming. In the meantime, you all have to just wait.”

    Can anybody imagine any politician saying such a thing? Of course not. But if the process had any relation to science then that is exactly what they would have had to have said.

  11. Pyrmonter says:

    David – the bureaucratic drug approval process is neither a necessary nor natural role of government, as Peltzman explained years ago. This is a good introduction to the area: https://www.cato.org/commentary/end-fda-drug-monopoly-let-patients-choose-their-medicines

  12. Eyrie says:

    It seems Australia does not have an EUA process so they waved it through in record time as “Fully Approved”. Wonderful.
    The vaxes are on EUA elsewhere.
    That’s why the ban on HCQ, Ivermectin etc. Can’t get an EUA if there is another treatment.
    HOP time.

  13. duncanm says:

    The TGA does not have an “Emergency Use Authorisation” pathway for COVID-19 vaccines.
    …Some countries are using versions of Emergency Use Authorisations (such as the UK, US and Canada)

    weasel words, reminds me of the ABC fact check unit..

    The Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) provisionally approved these vaccines after a complete assessment of all the available data

    TGA Provisional Approvals

    It provides access to certain promising new medicines where we assess that the benefit of early availability of the medicine outweighs the risk inherent in the fact that additional data are still required.

    The pathway provides a formal and transparent mechanism for expediting registration of promising new medicines with preliminary clinical data

    Increased alignment with other overseas regulators that provide similar pathways.

    Increased alignment with, I dunno, “emergency use authorisation” as used in the UK ?

    The Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency gave temporary authorisation to the supply of specific batches of Pfizer and BioNTech’s vaccine on 2 December,1 on the basis of efficacy data submitted between 1 October and 2 December 2020. The regulator credits the rapid turnaround to its “rolling review” process, which allowed it to analyse the data as they were submitted.

    They sound the same to me.

  14. twostix says:

    No part of the process has been rushed, and there was no emergency authorisation granted. The TGA does not have an “Emergency Use Authorisation” pathway for COVID-19 vaccines.

    How is this some sort of “AHA! See!” moment for you low IQ dumbos?

    The TGA is a shitty little political backwater agency in a tiny little country, the fact that it’s not even bothering to allow these vaccines only under an exceptional or emergency policy framework because it can’t be bothered, there are no cases of Covid, or it doesn’t even have one – while all its larger more important counterparts overseas are, isn’t a win you idiots!

    LOL

  15. Ceres says:

    I said Dr Mengele was also a doctor
    Great line I’ll use when confronted with an appeal to authority

  16. Damon says:

    “the TGA can assess clinical trial data as it becomes available” … and when adverse events are reported, they are dismissed as a’rarity’. Good job guys.

  17. Terry Pedersen says:

    That’s why the ban on HCQ, Ivermectin etc.

    Ivermectin is the green dream for all in India.

  18. Viva says:

    So the situation is not ideal.

    However in this life that can happen.

    Like it or not there is a virus around that can bump you off, especially if you are older, that arrived without notice.

    Vaccines are available that had to be developed in conditions that are less than ideal and older people at the moment can’t choose which one to have – again less than ideal.

    It’s a tough environment for sure. But that’s life at the moment. We’re not used to dealing with such risks in the first world.

    Individuals need to make their own personal risk assessment and then – whether or not they take the jab – live with the consequences.

  19. Vicki says:

    Our doctor merely smiled when my husband told her we declined AZ & would wait for Pfizer.

    We are not so worried about blood clots, but figure that the mRNA vaccines seem a better bet, and studies suggest that they have a better response to the new variants. Looks like most of the population agrees.

    But while all the medicos insist that all vaccines have varying degrees of side effects, anecdotal evidence form friends and acquaintances (including medicos) suggest a particularly savage immune response is not unusual. So be it, I suppose. But I would at least like to think that the bloody jab will give some protection against a virus that seems to be mutating at the same savage intensity as the later waves of the Spanish Flu.

  20. tgs says:

    Look, I sympathise with the general thrust of the post but ease up on the quotation marks next time. Comes across as a little unhinged.

  21. Squirrel says:

    The really good news is that the same masterminds who modeled potential infection rates last year are now modeling options for “opening the borders” – i.e. restrictions which are different from the current international border restrictions.

    On the subject of vaccine approval it might not, as we are told, have been an “emergency approval” process, but the publicly available documentation indicates that a number of important questions were unanswered when the approvals were given – including duration of efficacy and interaction between vaccines. The latter point is obviously of great interest to people who are being herded towards AZ but with Pfizer and Moderna the more likely options for “booster shots” in later years.

  22. Chris M says:

    what’s happening in India these days?

    The state of Goa has begun supplying Ivermectin to everyone above 18 years old. Should be a good case study. Don’t have info on the other states / didn’t check.

  23. Nicholas (Unlicensed Joker) Gray says:

    We are not yet at the stage where you can be given a vaccine, and gain a musical talent. You would need to have a heart transplant from a musician! Numerous case studies have confirmed that transplants also seem to transplant talents! This seems to be caused by the high number of nerves linking the heart to the brain.
    If an operation seems too drastic, some people get hit on the head and then have a talent that they never had before! That could be a future job- applied phrenology! After you sign this waiver…

  24. duncanm says:

    billie says:
    May 24, 2021 at 3:57 pm
    what’s happening in India these days?

    you can have a look here , but the big question is reliability and standardisation of the data.

  25. mundi says:

    As Duncan said above… People above claiming that they are not emergency approval… this is playing a pathetic word game.

    TGA has only ‘provisionally’ approved them. Which ever way you want to spin it, its not the usually full approval.

    They have also completely overhauled the whole process to be ‘inline’ with what everyone else is doing. Ie. they have dropped their original approval standards.

  26. Captain Katzenjammer says:

    My GP asked. I told her not in fear of the virus, it’s so benign in most cases those infected don’t even know, and very few suffer. And I’m not in fear of death. Never had the annual flue shots. She didn’t argue, just said she’ll mark “no” on their lists of over 70s clients.

    Didn’t argue about trial stutus, side effects, etc – just absence of fear of the virus.

  27. Ed Case says:

    But I would at least like to think that the bloody jab will give some protection against a virus that seems to be mutating at the same savage intensity as the later waves of the Spanish Flu.

    The Spanish Flu didn’t “mutate”, and there weren’t “waves”.
    It followed the Mathematical trend of every epidemic before and since, those that were going to sicken and die, did so, it tailed off, then disappeared.

  28. Dave in Marybrook says:

    Rafe-
    supreme leader lacks bite-
    try dropping chief protector of natives into polite company. I’m being met by a half-second of baffled silence that only comes from soft lefties when they are seriously outflanked.

  29. ozman says:

    Terry Pedersen says of Bidstrup:
    May 24, 2021 at 4:38 pm

    Another case of bullshit trying to baffle brains.

    David Bidstrup obviously has no need to baffle your brains. You either have none or are a paid shill promoting propaganda.

    Go and produce real evidence of an isolated COVID-19 virus. Filtrate the virus and grow it in a Petri dish with pure culture. Then we will know that you are genuine scientist.

    The CDC (USA) says that there is no isolated virus. This is reason why they created one with a DNA composite so common that it is detectable in everything from animals and fruit to juices and coca cola, depending upon the number of amplification cycles performed.

    The virus was created in a laboratory and is in the vaccines, along with synthetic mRNA or GMOs, monkey cells, human embryo cells. There could even be pork cells for all we know.

    As for the TGA, that agency is compromised–corrupt!–and in the pocket of Big Pharma.

    Dr Stella Immanuel (USA) has records of over 20,000 cases of ill people (tested positive for COVID-19), who were cured using Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin. And she just one of many doctors who have been prescribing these drugs as part of a protocol that would often include one of more of the following: zinc, vitamin C, vitamin D, Azithromycin.

  30. FlyingPigs says:

    Terry Pedersen says:
    May 24, 2021 at 4:38 pm
    Another case of bullshit trying to baffle brains.

    Forget Bidstrup’s rubbish. Here is what you need to know.

    which vaccination treatment did you have Terry P?

  31. Terry Pedersen says:

    which vaccination treatment did you have Terry P?

    None yet. Orange ex-President said Drano could work, or laser direct to the lung. Think I might try the Drano first.

  32. Roger W says:

    Article about Goa here.
    Comments particularly interesting.

  33. Vicki says:

    The Spanish Flu didn’t “mutate”, and there weren’t “waves”.

    Well….
    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1918-commemoration/three-waves.htm

  34. mh says:

    I put this on the Open Thread last night.
    I only got one response, and he was frightened.
    The blueprint for this planned ‘pandemic’.

    ‘There will be a challenge to the coming administration in the arena of infectious diseases.’ — Watch Dr. Anthony Fauci predict a pandemic under the Trump admin back in 2017.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puqaaeLnEww

    So the macro picture is …

    * Fauci, a lifelong swamp enabler, knew there was a push for a new global pandemic

    * Fauci enables US taxpayer funds to be redirected to third parties operating in Wuhan to create a human to human super coronaviruses based on SARS 1

    * The virus ‘escapes’, and quickly spreads around the globe

    * The narrative is created by the Washington Swamp that only Big Pharma will save us

    * Covid-19 treatments are effectively banned based on mis-information coming out of the CDC, NIH, etc.

    * The vaccines are ordered by panicked governments around the world

    * Nine executives from Moderna, BioNTech, ROVI and CanSino Biologics have all become billionaires throughout the pandemic. Together they are now worth $19.3 billion

  35. The Beer whisperer says:

    It is most certainly the thin edge of the wedge. Bringing in covid passports is the biggest hurdle, but as usual the idiots have overstepped, bypassing one for international travel to one for within our borders.

    But once they’ve permanentised the violation of our constitution, what’s to stop it being used to “allow” travel beyond the northern beaches? Your suburb or town?

    What if the employer makes it a condition of employment? The supermarket a condition of entry?

    Accept this and you may as well beg for access to water, food and air.

  36. Tel says:

    None yet. Orange ex-President said Drano could work …

    Do you ever intend to stop telling lies like that?

    How many people do you think fall for it?

  37. Hoogan says:

    This is the Front Line Covid-19 Critical Care Alliance’s (FLCCC) refutation of the WHO’s rejection of the evidence for the effectiveness of Ivermectin in both treating and preventing Covid-19 which by the WHO’s owns standards is far greater than the untested, unproven vaccines: https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/FLCCC-Alliance-Response-to-Leading-National-Health-Agencies.pdf
    And this is their press release on the obtuse behaviour of the North American and European health agencies in relation to the far superior evidence supporting the use of Ivermectin: https://covid19criticalcare.com/videos-and-press/flccc-releases/flccc-alliance-statement-on-the-irregular-actions-of-public-health-agencies-and-the-widespread-disinformation-campaign-against-ivermectin/ it’s a real sad state of affairs when politics trumps science and the small number of truly vulnerable folks have to die.

    None of the TGA’s commentary on Ivermectin cited in these comments has responded either to the FLCCC or the BIRD’s research or any of the many recent peer-reviewed research and studies on its use, nor why many countries are using Ivermectin as a standard treatment for those suffering from symptoms resulting from Covid-19 with great success (eg Argentina). I guess it’s easier for a health bureaucracy to pretend that evidence doesn’t exist than have to deal with it.

  38. Mater says:

    Think I might try the Drano first.

    Please.

  39. Forester says:

    “Like it or not there is a virus around that can bump you off, especially if you are older, that arrived without notice.”

    The Taiwanese reckoned SARS was good enough notice.

    The TGA can’t have it both ways, ‘suck it and see’ isn’t ‘fully tested’, not yet anyway

    I took one for the team so they had no excuses letting people get back to work and cutting the flow of other people’s money to those who don’t want to work or pretending to work.

    I still feel like I’d vote for the LDP, so perhaps my jab was a fizzer, I’ll see how I go after the booster.

  40. FlyingPigs says:

    Terry Pedersen says:
    May 24, 2021 at 8:07 pm
    which vaccination treatment did you have Terry P?

    None yet. Orange ex-President said Drano could work, or laser direct to the lung. Think I might try the Drano first.

    good to know that you admit your a bullshit artist.

  41. Andrew says:

    If the incels on this site were not so old already, we could be viewing natural selection in real time. Pity really.

  42. Deano says:

    Love Bidstrup’s quote:
    “After he rubbished the idea that I, a mere engineer, could fathom anything as complex as medical information I asked him where he got his. He said “from doctors”. I said Dr Mengele was also a doctor and he got a bit upset.”

    My job requires me to be surrounded by doctors and I have seen the way automatic adulation has corrupted them. Most of them fall into the trap of believing their own publicity.

  43. H B Bear says:

    From mh video link at 8.33 – “What are the lessons of HIV?”. Good question.

  44. mh says:

    “What are the lessons of HIV?”

    Fauci went looking for those answers.
    Probing deep into the bowels of the SF bathhouse scene.

  45. H B Bear says:

    At least he was on the right track. Until it came to the TV ads.

  46. Albatross says:

    Terry Pedersen says:
    May 24, 2021 at 8:07 pm
    […] Think I might try the Drano first.

    Do it.

  47. Herodotus says:

    Well said Mr. Bidstrop.

  48. Shy Ted says:

    Won’t be able to play the old Joanna cos “you might die” – Greg Hunt 20/5/2021

  49. Stan says:

    “No part of the process has been rushed, and there was no emergency authorisation granted. The TGA does not have an “Emergency Use Authorisation” pathway for COVID-19 vaccines.”

    The TGA equivalent is “provisional approval” for only two years and that is all that the Wuhan virus “vaccines” have received. The drug companies are required to continue to provide information on ongoing clinical trials. In the longer terms, once two years of trials are completed, the TGA would consider granting “approval.”

  50. Tom Atkinson says:

    The author wonders how this state of affairs could have arisen. Surely he can see the obvious answer to that, but here it is, in case he can’t:

    Our timid, populist, tyrannical “leaders” and their medical “experts” did not have the balls to stand up to the tsunami of media alarmism. And now that they’ve had a taste of dictatorship, quite like it.

  51. Epicurious says:

    Woolfe says:
    May 24, 2021 at 3:06 pm
    “No part of the process has been rushed, and there was no emergency authorisation granted. The TGA does not have an “Emergency Use Authorisation” pathway for COVID-19 vaccines.”

    The TGA has given “provisional” authorisation. No details on what the proviso’s are. Now I wonder what they don’t want us to know. Also can they define “safe and effective” and why other institutions around the world have decided these medical devices posing as vaccines are not safe and effective and have thus either banned them or have them on hold. For all those humans wishing to submit to an experimental drug go right ahead.

  52. Mak Siccar says:

    God help us all!

    https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/covid-19-vaccines/getting-vaccinated-for-covid-19/who-can-get-vaccinated-for-covid-19

    If you’ve had COVID-19 and recovered
    Even if you have already had COVID-19, you should still have the COVID-19 vaccine to help protect against getting COVID-19 again or passing it onto someone else. Check with your doctor about how long you should wait after recovery before getting a COVID-19 vaccination.

  53. Mak Siccar says:

    If it looks like bullsh1t, sounds like bullsh1t and smells like bullsh1t, then it probably is bullsh1t.

  54. Mak Siccar says:

    Convince me I’m wrong.

  55. Lee says:

    Even if you have already had COVID-19, you should still have the COVID-19 vaccine to help protect against getting COVID-19 again or passing it onto someone else.

    I thought the mantra was that the more people who caught and recovered from Covid, the greater chances of “herd immunity”?

  56. egg_ says:

    Chi na threatens to beat up the retarded kid on the block?

    Timeh! Timeh! Timeh!

  57. egg_ says:

    Wrong fred.

    But the Wuflu students back in January 2020 probably did the job, anyway.

  58. egg_ says:

    I though the vax only gave personal protection against death, nothing to do with community transmission.

  59. PB says:

    The wimminzes of Queensland’s Health establishment have been harping on at us to line up for “our” vaccinations.

    They’ve not done it themselves. Perhaps Palaczuk’s father Henry, knowing a bit about this as he does, advised her not to do it. She did go on TV ostentatiously have a flu vaxx though, which I guess we were supposed to extrapolate something from.

  60. PB says:

    The approval by the FDA is where the Emergency authorization part comes from. Our TGA tends to cut and paste from them, so technically they are right, because it isn’t “our” emergency authorization they are piggy-backing onto.

    The rest is lying and PR.

  61. PB says:

    “Australia has made a full and thorough assessment of the Pfizer and AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccines.”

    I think they did that with Thalidomide too Terry, and Vioxx.

  62. Terry Pedersen says:

    <blockquote

    >“Australia has made a full and thorough assessment of the Pfizer and AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccines.”

    I think they did that with Thalidomide too Terry, and Vioxx.

    Thalidomide was marketed in Australia in 1960 under the Menzies Government.

    The TGA was not established until 1989

  63. Terry Pedersen says:

    “Australia has made a full and thorough assessment of the Pfizer and AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccines.”

    I think they did that with Thalidomide too Terry, and Vioxx.

    Thalidomide was marketed in Australia in 1960 under the Menzies Government.

    The TGA was not established until 1989

  64. OldOzzie says:

    billie says:
    May 24, 2021 at 3:57 pm
    what’s happening in India these days?

    I heard that they started treating with ivermectin and the cases have dropped away massively

    anyone able to corroborate that?

    why are we hearing nothing about India right now?

    From JoNova Tuesday Thread

    Brenda Spence
    May 25, 2021 at 12:54 pm · Reply

    I was wondering what had gone wrong in India, they seemed to be doing well.
    Stopped using Ivermectin…the results are staggering!

    https://luis46pr.wordpress.com/2021/05/13/whats-going-on-india-sees-surge-of-deaths-and-injuries-following-covid-19-vaccine-roll-out/

  65. Diogenes says:

    Even if you have already had COVID-19, you should still have the COVID-19 vaccine to help protect against getting COVID-19 again or passing it onto someone else.

    The bastard that gave COVID to Mrs D’s aunt in Lake Tahoe is still being tested weekly for antibodies . He still has plenty and he was infected back in March last year. He stupidly went to the Chinese New Years celebrations in SFO

  66. Leo G says:

    Even if you have already had COVID-19, you should still have the COVID-19 vaccine to help protect against getting COVID-19 again …

    The NIH has reported that the COVID infection provides enduring immunity for at least 8 months (and likely for years) equivalent to an efficacy against further infection of at least 92% and probably more than 95%. At that rate it appears on par with best managed Pfizer vax programs.
    Recent media reports seem to overstate the efficacy of the Astrazeneca vax, but it appears to be in the range of 60% to 76%.
    Probably the best indication of he real AstraZeneca vax performance is for the program in the Seychelles. Earlier this month it was reported Seychelles has fully vaccinated 61.4% of its population, 57% with the Sinopharm vax and the rest with AstraZeneca’s Covishield.
    Some 33% of new infections have been of fully vaccinated people, indicative of an overall efficacy of 76.5% – which is slightly less than expected for vaccines reported to have respective efficacies of 79% (Sinopharm) and 76% (Covishield).

  67. OldOzzie says:

    Facebook Whistleblower Leaks Details of Users Being Ranked and Suppressed Based on “Vaccine Hesitancy” Algorithm

    Project Veritas has revealed some explosive information provided by two Facebook whistleblowers. According to documents and testimony by the insiders, Facebook initiated a program to control the speech of users who were expressing “vaccine hesitancy”, or concerns about the COVID vaccine. Anyone who was concerned about the vaccine was given a “vaccine hesitancy ” score. Unbeknownst to the user, that score was then used to ban, remove or shadow-ban the content.

    In essence any speech, sharing of information or comment discussion that is not in alignment with the pro-vaccine narrative is considered adverse to the interests of the Facebook platform. Those users are then targeted to suppress their voice.

  68. OldOzzie says:

    Hard data proves Big Pharma knew COVID vaccines would worsen and prolong the pandemic

    See Each National Graph Below Showing How Covid Vaccines Are Increasing Mortality Rates And Reversing Downward Death Trends

    What the many graphs below clearly indicate are two crucial data points about the Covid Super Vaccination Agenda.

    First, that virtually every country in the world was trending downward — precipitously — as the world community of nations started to approach natural herd immunity for COVID-19 at the end of 2020 and beginning of 2021.

    Secondly, that as soon as the various Covid vaccines were rolled out worldwide, virtually every country was saw a sharp spike in SAR-COV-2 cases, and especially in Covid deaths.

    The red line in each graph below shows the trending toward herd immunity. The blue line indicates the extraordinary Covid death spikes which occurred shortly after each nation rolled out their vaccine programs.

  69. PB says:

    And Vioxx?

  70. PB says:

    And Vioxx?

    1999 I think.

  71. Terry Pedersen says:

    And Vioxx?

    Not approved for treating COVID-19.

  72. SIMON NICHOLAS MORGAN says:

    The ‘vaccine or bust’ idiots have achieved something – they’ve created 9 new billionaires!

    They call people reluctant to join their lemming-like rush to be vaccinated ‘anti vaxxers’. Well they’re all ‘anti-drug’ers’.

  73. Fat Tony says:

    The Beer whisperer says:
    May 24, 2021 at 8:48 pm

    It is most certainly the thin edge of the wedge. Bringing in covid passports is the biggest hurdle, but as usual the idiots have overstepped, bypassing one for international travel to one for within our borders.

    But once they’ve permanentised the violation of our constitution, what’s to stop it being used to “allow” travel beyond the northern beaches? Your suburb or town?

    What if the employer makes it a condition of employment? The supermarket a condition of entry?

    Accept this and you may as well beg for access to water, food and air.

    I hope our governments realise that people who have nothing to lose do not make compliant, peaceful citizens who will quietly walk off and die in a corner somewhere.

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