“An unlikely but conceivable turn of events”

Who knows what else these idiots are doing? This is from The Oz: Fauci Argued Benefits of Gain-of-Function Research Outweighed Pandemic Risk in 2012 Paper.

America’s top medical adviser for the coronavirus, Anthony Fauci, argued that the benefits of experimenting on contagious viruses – manipulating and heightening their infectious potency – was worth the risk of a laboratory accident sparking a pandemic.

In previously unreported remarks, Dr Fauci supported the contentious gain-of-­function experiments that some now fear might have led to an escape from a Wuhan laboratory causing the Covid-19 pandemic, calling them “important work”.

An investigation by The Weekend Australian has also confirmed Dr Fauci, the director of the Nat­ional Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, did not alert senior White House officials before lifting the ban on gain-of-function research in 2017.

Writing in the American Society for Microbiology in October 2012, Dr Fauci acknowledged the controversial scientific research could spark a pandemic.

“In an unlikely but conceivable turn of events, what if that scientist becomes infected with the virus, which leads to an outbreak and ultimately triggers a pandemic?” he wrote. “Many ask reasonable questions: given the possibility of such a scenario – however remote – should the initial experiments have been performed and/or published in the first place, and what were the processes involved in this decision?

“Scientists working in this field might say – as indeed I have said – that the benefits of such experiments and the resulting knowledge outweigh the risks.”

Also discussed here: Fauci Pushed for ‘Gain-of-Function’ Research in 2012, Said It Was Worth the Risk of Pandemic. And here: Fauci Said Risk of Manipulating Bat Viruses Was Worth a Potential Pandemic.

AND LET ME ADD THIS:

NOTHING TO SEE HERE, MOVE ALONG: An explosive new study claims researchers found ‘unique fingerprints’ in COVID-19 samples that they say could only have arisen from manipulation in a laboratory.

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46 Responses to “An unlikely but conceivable turn of events”

  1. duncanm says:

    So using Fauci’s 2012 logic – we should have had suitable treatments and vaccines from the get-go in Dec’20, yes?

  2. Bruce in WA says:

    I almost got in a punch-up by saying I thought Fauci was a fraud — and that was back halfway through last year.

  3. yarpos says:

    Do a little research into the role Fauci played in the early days of HIV/AIDS. Its arguable that Dr Doomsday is a great example of failing upwards at a great cost to humankind.

  4. m0nty says:

    BOMBSHELL! A public paper written nine years ago. EXCLUSIVE!

    LOL.

  5. Primer says:

    Tony ‘pandemic is acceptable risk swap for gain of function research’ Fauci is therefore responsible for funding the origins of the pandemic, convinced as he was that China would never, ever, until hell freezes over, use it as a bioweapon.
    There are smarter house bricks, so he must be a malicious traitor. Lots of self loathing US nationals about, aren’t there.

  6. Fair Shake says:

    Let me be the first to say the costs have outweighed the benefits.

  7. RobK says:

    Let me be the first to say the costs have outweighed the benefits.
    Agreed. But it would depend on the initial goals to a degree.

  8. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV) says:

    Agreed. But it would depend on the initial goals to a degree.

    The goal for chicoms was always bioweapons

  9. Herodotus says:

    Posted in ice-cream thread by mistake a short time ago, so here it is again.

    Ezra Levant’s book on the virus was banned by Amazon:

    Avi Yemeni said My boss, Ezra Levant, had his book, called, China Virus, banned by Amazon less than a week after they published it. Amazon’s excuse was that his book contradicted “official sources”.

  10. Damon says:

    Covid has been around for more than a year. It has probably killed everyone it was going to kill. The rest of us are petrified of catching a cold?

  11. Boambee John says:

    m0nty says:
    May 29, 2021 at 1:21 pm
    BOMBSHELL! A public paper written nine years ago. EXCLUSIVE!

    LOL.

    Getting worried munster? What if all your fear was caused by a corrupt fool in the US collaborating with Chinese fascists?

  12. Joanna Smythe says:

    If any of you are on Bitchute, a citizen journalist called a lot of funeral homes in Canada and asked if in 2020 there were a lot more funerals than in previous years or were the numbers in line. Every one said there hadn’t been an increase. One of them even said she was on the right track and to keep doing her research.

  13. Perfidious Albino says:

    I’m guessing Fauci pushed this research to Chinese labs that were more ‘pragmatic’ about the risks of what he wanted to do. Hopefully this POS is arrested in a State with capital punishment and they can inject him with each of the ‘vaccines’ simultaneously.

  14. rickw says:

    Getting worried munster? What if all your fear was caused by a corrupt fool in the US collaborating with Chinese fascists?

    Munty’s favourite combination!

  15. Snotball says:

    OK. We now agree it was man made. The next step is to recognise that it was deliberately released!

  16. Primer says:

    It was certainly deliberately released by China into the West. The tell is that flights out of Wuhan to anywhere else in China were shut down while flights from Wuhan to international destinations were allowed for another two weeks. Ample time.

  17. Vicki says:

    Re – the evidence of “manipulation in a laboratory” – not new for those who have been following earlier reports that were consistently discredited by the MSM.

    Every snippet fits into place. Why is everyone so surprised??

  18. Megan says:

    This was pretty much the discussion on this very site in February and March last year. There was just too many things that made no sense. That’s a definite sign that deception is afoot.

  19. Megan says:

    …were just…my post migraine brain has lost its grammar sense.

  20. John Brumble says:

    BJ-
    Biden could literally push the button to obliterate every major Australian city tomorrow and, if not caught in it, Monty would either blame someone else or claim the Biden just wasn’t left wing enough.

  21. Ed Case says:

    Limited Hangout.
    It doesn’t matter any more whose fault it was, that’s for the history books.
    The issue now is Governments destroying their own countries on the basis that there’s a Pandemic happening.

  22. Gerard says:

    Why is he not in jail?

  23. OldOzzie says:

    Is Ivermectin The New Penicillin?

    Ivermectin, an anti-parasitic drug placed the same radioactive category as Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) for the treatment of COVID-19, has reemerged as a promising treatment in the battle to extinguish the pandemic.

    New York Times best-selling author Michael Capuzzo has called it the “drug that cracked Covid,” writing that there are “hundreds of thousands, actually millions, of people around the world, from Uttar Pradesh in India to Peru to Brazil, who are living and not dying.”

    Doctors in India are big fans.

    To that end Dr. Justus R. Hope, MD asks in The Desert Review: Is Ivermectin the new Penicillin?

    As those Indian States using Ivermectin continue to diverge in cases and deaths from those states that forbid it, the natural experiment illustrates the power of Ivermectin decisively.

    Cases in Delhi, where Ivermectin was begun on April 20, dropped from 28,395 to just 2,260 on May 22. This represents an astounding 92% drop. Likewise, cases in Uttar Pradesh have dropped from 37,944 on April 24 to 5,964 on May 22 – a decline of 84%.

    Delhi and Uttar Pradesh followed the All India Institute of Medical Sciences (AIIMS) guidance published April 20, 2021, which called for dosing of .2 mg per kg of Ivermectin per body weight for three days. This amounts to 15 mg per day for a 150-pound person or 18 mg per day for a 200-pound individual.

    The other three Indian states that adopted it are all down as well. Goa is down from 4,195 to 1,647, Uttarakhand is down from 9,624 to 2,903, and Karnataka is down from 50,112 to 31,183. Goa adopted a pre-emptive policy of mass Ivermectin prevention for the entire adult population over age 18 at a dose of 12 mg daily for five days.

    Meanwhile, Tamil Nadu announced on May 14 they were outlawing Ivermectin in favor of the politically correct Remdesivir. As a result, Tamil Nadu’s cases are up in the same time frame from April 20 to May 22 – 10,986 to 35,873 – more than a tripling.

    Although Big Pharma and Big Media have scrambled to try, they cannot explain away this natural experiment. As I predicted May 12, they would first argue “the lockdowns worked.” The problem with this is that Tamil Nadu has been on strict lockdown for weeks as their cases have done nothing but climb. So the lockdown did not work.

    Their next argument was that “there has been a shift from the highly populated urban areas like Delhi and Mumbai” to the hinterlands, like Tamil Nadu. The big problem is that the adjacent state, Karnataka is just as rural, and its cases are dropping on Ivermectin.

    Uttar Pradesh is near the Himalayas and out in the far non-urbanized north where cases are down 84% with Ivermectin. Uttarakhand is even more rural and located in the Himalayas next to Nepal. Its infections are down 70% with Ivermectin.

    Their final argument lacked any proof. It was essentially an attempt to smear Ivermectin through association with another drug. It attempted to link Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) with Ivermectin unfairly. While HCQ has become a punchline by the media, scientists like Dr. George Fareed know it is effective against COVID-19 – especially in the early stages.

    Dr. Fareed and his associate, Dr. Brian Tyson, have treated some 6,000 patients with nearly 100% success using a combination of HCQ, Ivermectin, Fluvoxamine, and various nutraceuticals, including zinc Vitamin D.

    Unfortunately, none of this has made it through the censorship of the mainstream media, and the public has not heard about the 200 plus studies that reflect HCQ’s effectiveness against COVID-19. The fact remains that HCQ has an undeserved negative connotation due to its connection with Trump, which is unfortunately used to tarnish other life-saving repurposed drugs, like Ivermectin. For example, in the recent Forbes article, journalist Ray uses the title, “Is Ivermectin the New Hydroxychloroquine?”

  24. Mark M says:

    Melbourne anti-lockdown protestors arrested

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/victoria/victoria-covid-live-updates-vaccine-system-under-pressure-focus-on-exposure-venues-to-contain-spread-20210529-p57w91.html

    Health minister says virus doesn’t care about protests.

    That would explain why no one was arrested at the BLM protest.

  25. Leo G says:

    Often it’s not the crime that does the real damage but the cover-up.
    The Watergate burglary was incompetent, but the coverup massively damaged American politics.
    In hindsight, the SARS-CoV-2 virus is not a first-rate biowarfare weapon, but the coverup response massively amplified its capability to damage human populations.
    Who committed the COVID pandemic crime?
    Who were, and who are still, responsible for compounding the damage?

  26. OldOzzie says:

    Ed Case says:
    May 29, 2021 at 4:31 pm

    Limited Hangout.

    It doesn’t matter any more whose fault it was, that’s for the history books.

    The issue now is Governments destroying their own countries on the basis that there’s a Pandemic happening.

    +++++1 – Totally Correct – The issue now is Governments destroying their own countries on the basis that there’s a Pandemic happening.

  27. lily says:

    It was deliberately released by China into the West.
    As told by the Captain on the Diamond Princess on which I was a passenger.
    ‘A elderly Chinese man from Wuhan boarded the Diamond Princess in Tokyo after flying from Wuhan China. He dis-embarked a few days later in Hong Kong.’ No one had any idea about the virus even though there were plenty of people with flue like symptons until we docked in Okasawa and the Japanese Govt. took control of the ship.
    I believe the Diamond Princess was the first cruise ship to have the virus on board.
    Deliberate. I fully believe it was and nothing will convince me otherwise.

  28. mh says:

    Getting worried munster? What if all your fear was caused by a corrupt fool in the US collaborating with Chinese fascists?

    The FauXi flu.

  29. mh says:

    Why is Victoria locking down 7million people AGAIN for only 41 cases when UK restrictions are lifting with 3,500 cases a day?

    Because they can.

  30. OldOzzie says:

    EXCLUSIVE: COVID-19 ‘has NO credible natural ancestor’ and WAS created by Chinese scientists who then tried to cover their tracks with ‘retro-engineering’ to make it seem like it naturally arose from bats, explosive new study claims

    An explosive new study claims researchers found ‘unique fingerprints’ in COVID-19 samples that they say could only have arisen from manipulation in a laboratory

    DailyMail.com exclusively obtained the new 22-page paper authored by British Professor Angus Dalgleish and Norwegian scientist Dr. Birger Sørensen set to be published in the Quarterly Review of Biophysics Discovery

  31. dover_beach says:

    Extraordinary the lengths of perfidy Monty will commit in order to placate his fragile ego.

  32. Xenophon says:

    Markson is a sock puppet. Her previous beat ups fit with a career to date of assiduous crafting of fake news. Like her father she lives off hot air, noise and weasel craft.

  33. Old School Conservative says:

    m0nty says:
    May 29, 2021 at 1:21 pm
    BOMBSHELL! A public paper written nine years ago. EXCLUSIVE!

    LOL.

    So you knew all about it 9 years ago but didn’t warn anyone?

  34. Herodotus says:

    Deliberate. I fully believe it was and nothing will convince me otherwise.

    Yep.
    Just like the toxic “passengers” on this blog.
    Chuck them overboard.

  35. Lee says:

    Health minister says virus doesn’t care about protests.

    That would explain why no one was arrested at the BLM protest.

    Funny (not) that the health minister wasn’t saying that last year at the time of the BLM protest.
    Staggering hypocrisy from the government.

  36. PB says:

    m0nty says:
    May 29, 2021 at 1:21 pm
    BOMBSHELL! A public paper written nine years ago. EXCLUSIVE!

    Sometimes you need time to deliver context.

  37. Damon says:

    “Sometimes you need time to deliver context”
    CRAP. Facts are either right or wrong.

  38. PB says:

    “CRAP. Facts are either right or wrong.”

    Didn’t mean it that way. Meant to note that what Monty referred to has now been given a context that wasn’t known before, hence the malevolence and potential of this wasn’t understood at the time of the paper. We know more about what they are up to now.

  39. gary says:

    Surely people in Wuhan and China generally would want to know if there was a leak from the Wuhan Laboratory that released COVID. What if a more serious virus is released in the future that kills 10-20% of people – do the people of Wuhan want to risk that possibility?

    Finding out what really happened and preventing any further releases of dangerous viruses from the Wuhan facility must be the No. 1 priority for health authorities. And I am sure the people of Wuhan would agree.

  40. Andre Lewis says:

    The CCP will not let any real information about the lab get out and most of the incriminating evidence has been destroyed, including some of the lab people who might have talked.
    The most relevant issue is not that it got out of the lab somehow but what the CCP did when they knew. They shut down Wuhan like a high risk prison and Lord knows how many citizens died there – the crematoriums were glowing 24/7 for weeks. But they did not shut down people leaving on overseas flights and even had the WHO tell lies about the danger. That alone should make every country hit with thus pandemic treat the Chinese government like the gangster haven it is until they fall.

  41. Speedbox says:

    I’m not yet convinced it was deliberately released. I think its release was a result of a specific cover-up by Chinese officials and general biohazard incompetence. At the time that covid was gaining traction among Chinese citizens, it was also the start of the Chinese New Year celebrations and millions of Chinese were moving about China and worse, for us, were embarking overseas.

    Separately, I clearly recall one Chinese woman telling how she felt very unwell with flu like symptoms and that she took large doses of medications (purchased at a pharmacy without prescription) to hide/alleviate the symptoms. She bragged on social media how she ‘fooled’ the Customs & Immigration when she arrived at her overseas destination city. At the time I thought she was bloody irresponsible but too late – the damage was done.

    I do not completely dismiss the idea that covid was deliberately released, but that will be very hard for anyone to conclusively prove. Time will tell.

  42. Crossie says:

    But they did not shut down people leaving on overseas flights and even had the WHO tell lies about the danger. That alone should make every country hit with thus pandemic treat the Chinese government like the gangster haven it is until they fall.

    Trump’s US might have led the way but with Biden in the White House there is no chance and China will get away with it, has gotten away with it.

  43. Tel says:

    Who knows what else these idiots are doing?

    It’s easy enough to find out … type the words “EcoHealth Alliance” into a search engine, make note of all the key people, then read their research papers. It’s not like they have been hiding anything.

    https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/13/10/07-0448_article

    That’s a good starting list, go through the authors there, and they declare their institutions (several from Australia) giving you additional reference.

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