Stairway To Heaven

Happy 80th birthday, Your Eminence. Cent’Anni!

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83 Responses to Stairway To Heaven

  1. Siltstone says:

    Pell 7 Nilligan 0

  2. Rosie says:

    Happy birthday from me as well, Cardinal Pell.

  3. rickw says:

    Is munty going to be ok with this?

  4. Cassie of Sydney says:

    Happy Birthday Cardinal Pell….hope you’re safe and healthy. Apologies about the cold and rainy weather here in Sydney.

    Kol hakavod to you.

  5. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    Is munty going to be ok with this?

    WGAF?

  6. Cassie of Sydney says:

    Siltstone says:
    June 8, 2021 at 7:57 pm
    Pell 7 Nilligan 0

    It’s a beautiful thing. 7 April 2020 was a wonderful day.

  7. Iain Russell says:

    As staunch a Covenenantor as I am, I also wish you all the best. An admirable man brought undone by hate, bigotry and evil. Our Dreyfus!

  8. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:

    Our Dreyfus!

    An apt comparison!

  9. Cassie of Sydney says:

    Our Dreyfus!”

    Correct.

  10. Leigh Lowe says:

    They defamed him.
    They persecuted him.
    They prosecuted him.
    They humiliated him.
    They jailed him.
    But they couldn’t break him.
    That is what stings them the most.

  11. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “They defamed him.
    They persecuted him.
    They prosecuted him.
    They humiliated him.
    They jailed him.
    But they couldn’t break him.
    That is what stings them the most.”

    Beautifully said LL.

  12. candy says:

    Happy Birthday, Cardinal Pell. Keep well and positive. Don’t look back in anger, as the song goes, but it must be difficult.

  13. mh says:

    As a non-Catholic, I send my best wishes for your 80th … your Eminence.

  14. Best wishes, Your Eminence. You have many friends here.

  15. stackja says:

    George celebration this year.

  16. Albatross says:

    mUnt hardest hit. Wonder how many real abusers slipped through the cracks while we were spending all that time and money framing a class enemy? m0nty supports rock spiders.

  17. Mick Gold Coast QLD says:

    Cardinal Pell soon after his release:

    “I was watching the television news in my cell when the news came through.

    First, I heard that leave was granted and then that the convictions were quashed. I thought, ‘Well that’s great. I’m delighted.’

    Of course, there was no one to talk to about it until my legal team arrived.

    However, I did hear a great cheer from somewhere within the jail and then the three other inmates near me made it clear they were delighted for me.”

    I especially like that last sentence.

    May the Good Lord bless and keep this exceptional man.

  18. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “I especially like that last sentence.”

    Me too….and they knew he was innocent. These prisoners had more morality, more decency and more integrity than the Victorian police, judicial system, government and in particular, that loathsome grub….Premier Dan Andrews.

  19. Dot says:

    montella never outlined what “flaws” were in the Melbin Response.

    Cheers, Dr Cdl.

  20. Dot says:

    Me too….and they knew he was innocent. These prisoners had more morality, more decency and more integrity than the Victorian police, judicial system, government and in particular, that loathsome grub….Premier Dan Andrews.

    The Victorian Police and Bar are actually very crooked. There is a no joke good argument to actually carve Victoria up and to restaff the new criminal justice systems with cleanskins.

    No kidding.

  21. Seco says:

    Prison Journal Vol 2 arrived a couple of days ago. God bless you Cardinal.

  22. Syd Gal says:

    Happy 80th Birthday to Cardinal Pell. I hope the Cardinal is enjoying tending a rose garden in the Vatican. Thank you for the interesting, insightful and inspiring writing in the Prison Journal Volumes 1 and 2.

  23. Megan says:

    Happy 80th birthday, Cardinal Pell. I’ve always thought that you were one of the very few religious people I have encountered in life that actually personified and lived your belief. Many happy returns, indeed.

  24. Leigh Lowe says:

    I am reading Keith’s book right now.
    About a quarter of the way through.
    My God, what a stitch up.

  25. joco says:

    Happy 80th Birthday your Eminence

  26. Dunnybrush says:

    Happy Birthday too Cardinal. I was a lapsed Catholic. Your strength has encouraged me to relapse.

  27. Ubique says:

    Many happy returns your Eminence. God bless and keep you.

  28. Tom says:

    May the Good Lord bless and keep this exceptional man.

    Amen.

  29. Mak Siccar says:

    To all of the above good wishes, add mine.

  30. Nob says:

    Dot says:
    June 8, 2021 at 9:36 pm
    montella never outlined what “flaws” were in the Melbin Response.

    I don’t get people going on about that.
    Do they know anything?

    And if it was flawed, so what?
    It was better than any other institutional response , anywhere, up to that point.
    First steps, groundbreaking stuff.

  31. Roger says:

    Many happy returns, Your Eminence!

  32. Suburban Boy says:

    Sadly, there is a downside to His Eminence reaching the age of 80: he will not be in the conclave to vote for Pope Francis’ successor.

  33. P says:

    Cardinal Pell: in prison I forgave my accusers, faith kept me alive
    By Fabio Colagrande – VATICAN NEWS

    In an interview with Vatican News, the Australian Cardinal who turns 80 today relives the experience he had during thirteen months of detention recounted in his book “Prison Journal”. “It helped me to live my sufferings by associating them with those of Jesus. I have always believed that God was behind everything that was happening to me”.

    Cardinal George Pell, Prefect Emeritus of the Secretariat for the Economy, has been a free man for fourteen months. Today, 8 June 2021, he was able to celebrate his eightieth birthday in his home country, Australia. We reached him by phone at a time in which he is in self-isolation for health reasons related to Covid.

    Thanks be to God for Cardinal Pell.

  34. Primer says:

    Not too sparkly please.
    Innocent of this charge, persecuted by the vast Aussie left, revealing incompetence at best in the Vic Court of Appeal and at worst straight up political corruption…..but then how do you share digs with a serial pedo priest and not have a clue? The technique of moving pedo priests to a new parish and pretending sweetness and light was fairly common and Pell had to know, he was in charge, we had two such examples here over 25 years.
    Innocent of this, yes, but what else happened.

  35. Spurgeon Monkfish III says:

    As a very lapsed Catholic, I watched the persecution of Cardinal Pell over the last few years with increasing discomfort as it became evident he was going to end up wearing society’s opprobrium for all the abuses (both real and perceived) perpetrated by rogue elements in the church over many decades.

    The original criminal trial was an absolute sham and a monstrous travesty of justice. The result of the first appeal was every bit as galling. By the time the High Court had righted these monstrous wrongs, a physically frail but mentally strong man had been languishing in gaol for 404 days.

    The interview with Bolt with riveting viewing. As with so many Catholics persecuted over the years, his faith in the almighty never wavered.

    Best wishes, Cardinal, you are an inspiration.

  36. Spurgeon Monkfish III says:

    but then how do you share digs with a serial pedo priest and not have a clue?

    Perhaps you should sound out that that monstrous hypocritical imbecile Paul Bongiorno for comment on that matter.

  37. Primer says:

    “Perhaps you should sound out that that monstrous hypocritical imbecile Paul Bongiorno for comment on that matter.”
    Indeed, but the question remains.

  38. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “and Pell had to know, he was in charge.”

    No…no….no. You don’t know that and it is precisely that kind of “Pell had to know” bullshit that led to his grotesque persecution.

    Some women have been married to peterfiles and have never known what their husbands/partners are up to. Look…I detest that slime bag Paul Bungjourno but I actually believe him when he says that he didn’t know about Ridsdale even when he shared lodgings with him back in Ballarat in the early 1970’s. Peterfiles are secretive. But I note that Bungjourno hasn’t been subjected to the same kind of smears and false allegations that Pell has been…wonder why? Because Bungjourno is a progressive and Pell is a conservative.

    Pell’s mistake, which he has paid for, was to accompany Ridsdale to court back in the early 1990’s….but that was a very Christian thing to do.

    Oh and I’m not a Catholic…nor a Christian.

  39. Primer says:

    Please stop it…… your contention that there was some secret dept within the Catholic Church that controlled moving pedo priests to other parishes incognito and CEO Pell had no idea is beyond ridiculous.

  40. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “Primer says:
    June 9, 2021 at 10:43 am
    Please stop it…… your contention that there was some secret dept within the Catholic Church that controlled moving pedo priests to other parishes incognito and CEO Pell had no idea is beyond ridiculous.”

    Please stop it….your contention is both ridiculous, offensive and WRONG.

  41. Primer says:

    That won’t do Cassie.

  42. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “Primer says:
    June 9, 2021 at 10:50 am
    That won’t do Cassie.”

    Post the evidence Primer…if not…that won’t do Primer.

  43. Mother Lode says:

    Primer, can you give us a few of the clues you would expect the p3d0 priest to have left that would have informed the Cardinal of his proclivities?

    I am always dubious about claims that someone ‘must have known…’ stuff without clear examples of how.

    I see you proffer the argument that moving p3d0 priests about an existing practice and then go to claim that the Cardinal ‘must have known’ that about the particular priest he shared digs with. It would really behove you to demonstrate how he must have known rather than that he simply must have.

  44. Primer says:

    Personal evidence are two C Priests “moved” from my area to new parishes for kiddie fiddling, it was common knowledge, no charges, it all went away.
    In the same 25 year period an Anglican Minister was the first to go, “defrocked”, again no charges.
    Your cognitive dissonance will eventually bite you.
    This has nothing to do with Pell’s innocence and the corrupt attempt to nail him on other charges

  45. Primer says:

    “‘must have known’ that about the particular priest he shared digs with.”
    Is merely my opinion.
    The moving of pedo priests to new areas unknowing of their history is the real problem.

  46. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “Your cognitive dissonance will eventually bite you.”

    LOL…projecting Primer

  47. Primer says:

    So I give you my personal evidence and that’s all you have to say.
    Fingers in ears hands over eyes won’t work.

  48. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “So I give you my personal evidence and that’s all you have to say.
    Fingers in ears hands over eyes won’t work.”

    Oh so Primer thinks that HIS personal experience and evidence applies to others…..so that means that Pell must have known!

    You’re an idiot…and an offensive one at that. Oh and who has their fingers in their ears and hands over their eyes? Primer Projection.

  49. Mother Lode says:

    So I give you my personal evidence and that’s all you have to say.

    Evidence that the Cardinal knew. You don’t think they might

    Your saying that you know of other cases means nothing with regards to the Cardinal. We don’t even know if they were even vaguely contemporaneous.

    How do you know the Cardinal knew?

  50. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “How do you know the Cardinal knew?”

    He doesn’t.

  51. Primer says:

    “Please stop it…… your contention that there was some secret dept within the Catholic Church that controlled moving pedo priests to other parishes incognito and CEO Pell had no idea is beyond ridiculous.”
    This is getting circular…. bye.

  52. Mother Lode says:

    This is getting circular…. bye.

    You will forgive us for thinking you lack any actual basis for claiming the Cardinal knew then since you have provided none.

  53. dover_beach says:

    Please stop it…… your contention that there was some secret dept within the Catholic Church that controlled moving pedo priests to other parishes incognito and CEO Pell had no idea is beyond ridiculous.

    Pell became Arch. of Melb in 1996. In the same year he was appointed he instituted the Melbourne Response. Do you have an instance of a known pedo priest being moved while he was Archbishop?

  54. dover_beach says:

    You will forgive us for thinking you lack any actual basis for claiming the Cardinal knew then since you have provided none.

    Indeed, apparently Pell became Arch. Pell as soon as he was ordained a priest.

  55. Dot says:

    In the same 25 year period an Anglican Minister was the first to go, “defrocked”, again no charges.

    Please name an Anglican Cardinal.

  56. cuckoo says:

    Thanks be to God for Cardinal Pell.

    Amen. “Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.”

  57. The Sheriff says:

    Can a litigation funder buy Pell’s defamation claims from him then pursue them?

  58. dover_beach says:

    BTW, I missed this post last evening and offered my hearty congratulations to His Eminence on the OT. So, again, happy birthday Cardinal Pell.

  59. FelixKruell says:

    The forelock tugging here is hilarious….”your eminence”

  60. Rex Anger says:

    The forelock tugging here

    So get your hand off it, Grigory…

  61. dover_beach says:

    Respect, where it is due, is not forelock tugging.

  62. FelixKruell says:

    Rex:

    So get your hand off it, Grigory…

    It’s not my hand you should be worried about, reading this thread…

  63. dover_beach says:

    It appears someone is still reeling from the HC’s 7-0 unanimous exoneration of His Eminence. Good.

  64. P says:

    May God forgive those who are endeavouring to deface this congratulatory thread.

  65. Dot says:

    The forelock tugging here is hilarious….”your eminence”

    That’s his title. I have more respect for him than the Victorian judiciary & police.

    Commissioner?
    Your honour?

    Informant 3838?

  66. Timothy Neilson says:

    The technique of moving pedo priests to a new parish and pretending sweetness and light was fairly common and Pell had to know, he was in charge, we had two such examples here over 25 years.

    Pell wasn’t “in charge” of anything until he became Archbishop of Melbourne in 1996, when he instituted the “Melbourne Response”.

  67. Makka says:

    Happy Birthday Cardinal Pell, and may you enjoy many more. By living a long and productive life you will each day rub the noses of the haters in their bile and s***. Some of whom are crawling around this thread.

  68. FelixKruell says:

    Dot:

    That’s his title. I have more respect for him than the Victorian judiciary & police.

    Despite their titles?

  69. Lee says:

    It appears someone is still reeling from the HC’s 7-0 unanimous exoneration of His Eminence. Good.

    It is pretty obvious that that “someone” wanted Pell to go down, purely out malice, regardless of guilt or innocence.
    And he has just proved it again, like the miserable piece of work he is.

  70. Boambee John says:

    Primer

    but then how do you share digs with a serial pedo priest and not have a clue?

    Perhaps you should ask Paul Bungjourno?

  71. Lee says:

    Perhaps you should ask Paul Bungjourno?

    Funny how nearly everyone, even on the right, accepts the far-leftist Bung’s word that he didn’t know what was going on with Ridsdale, but many on the left will not accept Pell’s word that he didn’t either.
    Even the weaselly Bung said something to the effect that “do you think pedophiles go around telling everyone what they’re up to?”
    That said, Bung is a hypocrite, especially in regard to Pell.

  72. Dot says:

    Despite their titles?

    That is precisely the point, my developmentally delayed friend.

  73. FelixKruell says:

    Dot:

    That is precisely the point, my developmentally delayed friend.

    As usual, your point is internally inconsistent.

    Pell deserves respect because of his title, regardless of his actions.

    The police and courts do not?

  74. Dot says:

    No. They don’t.

  75. Mother Lode says:

    but then how do you share digs with a serial pedo priest and not have a clue?

    This is wrong with it framed.

    It is predicated on the assumption that a p3d0 inevict ably and ineluctably betrays their nature, and therefore in front of incontrovertible evidence how can one claim ignorance.

    Once again I would ask what these unmistakeable clues are that we can be certain that the Cardinal was confronted with them.

    People have missed out on their own families and spouses having such revolting secrets.

  76. Mother Lode says:

    This is wrong with it framed.

    Tried using voice recognition. What a piece of garbage.

    This is wrongly framed.

  77. Mother Lode says:

    It is predicated on the assumption that a p3d0 inevict ably and ineluctably betrays

    Shyte again.

    It is predicated on the assumption that a p3d0 inevitably and ineluctably betrays

  78. Timothy Neilson says:

    Pell deserves respect because of his title, regardless of his actions.

    What actions? Are you implying that Pell has done something that should forfeit respect? If so, what is it?

    Presumably Dot thinks that various people and institutions in the Victorian system of government aren’t worthy of respect as a consequence of their actions, and you don’t seem to have asserted that he’s unjustified in doing so.

    If, on the other hand, he regards Pell with respect, what basis do you have for challenging that view?

  79. FelixKruell says:

    Tim:

    Presumably Dot thinks that various people and institutions in the Victorian system of government aren’t worthy of respect as a consequence of their actions, and you don’t seem to have asserted that he’s unjustified in doing so.

    My point was that he wasn’t willing to grant respect to police/judges based only on their titles. But expected others to do so with ‘his eminence’.

  80. Timothy Neilson says:

    My point was that he wasn’t willing to grant respect to police/judges based only on their titles. But expected others to do so with ‘his eminence’.

    Does he? Where did he say that? As far as I can see he explained his reason for not respecting the Victorian police and judiciary and thus not referring to them by titles, whereas by contrast he respects Pell and therefore uses the title. I can’t see where he states that he expects others to adhere to his practice.

  81. FelixKruell says:

    Tim:

    This bit…

    Pell deserves respect because of his title, regardless of his actions.

    The police and courts do not?

    …No. They don’t.

  82. Dot says:

    That’s right Felix.

    The Victorian police judiciary are despicable certainly are not respect-worthy institutions.

    Stop pretending to be offended.

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