Vaccine deaths overtake virus deaths for 2021

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85 Responses to Vaccine deaths overtake virus deaths for 2021

  1. Pyrmonter says:

    ‘In Australia’. Uniquely so. Sad whatever the cause.

  2. jupes says:

    So far this year, 64,000 Australians have died from all causes.

    ONE of those died from the ‘rona.

  3. Matt says:

    So our response has been significantly better than other countries which have seen a large increase deaths due to COVID.

  4. C.L. says:

    How many of those other countries are first-world, warm, largely uninhabited island continents?

  5. Albatross says:

    >a large increase in deaths
    Yeah, right.

  6. Matt says:

    Fairly narrow inclusion criteria CL

  7. Ed Case says:

    The AstraZeneca vaccine is currently only being recommended for Australians over the age of 50 due to the risk of blood clots.

    People over 50 don’t suffer from Blood Clots?
    We’re in ClownWorld now.

  8. Primer says:

    “People over 50 don’t suffer from Blood Clots?
    The logic works for Kath and Kim, but.

  9. Leo G says:

    A second Australian has died after suffering blood clots directly linked to the AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine.
    The Therapeutic Goods Administration, which is overseeing the rollout of the vaccine, confirmed the woman’s death on Thursday.
    She was a 52-year-old resident of New South Wales.

    The AstraZeneca vaccine is currently only being recommended for Australians over the age of 50 due to the risk of blood clots.

    Yet it was previously reported that the AstraZeneca vax was only recommended for those over 50 due to the reported (in January) low efficacy of that vaccination- so low that it could not achieve “herd immunity”.

  10. DM OF WA says:

    In the UK:

    The review by the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) found the 79 cases and 19 deaths occurred after 20 million doses were administered – giving a risk of about four in one million of developing a blood clot, and one in a million of dying.

    Probability of clot from AZ vaccine: 0.000004
    Probability of death from AZ vaccine: 0.000001

  11. Terry says:

    And these are just the short-term (almost immediate) side-effects…

    We wait for the mid and long-term death toll to mount, particularly amongst those protein-spikers with newly acquired exposure to the next strains of wild variants.

    Attacked from within by your own immune system. Should be great fun!

  12. Matt says:

    So far a total of 3.3 m Astra Zeneca doses, with 48 cases of TTS (35 confirmed & 13 probable).
    – 31 discharged from hospital and are recovering, with some receiving ongoing outpatient medical care
    – 15 patients remain in hospital, including one who remains critically ill in intensive care
    – two people have died in hospital.

  13. Matt says:

    And these are just the short-term (almost immediate) side-effects…

    See also long COVID

  14. Captain Katzenjammer says:

    It’s a battle between the global pharmaceutical industry and China to see who can most effectively reduce world population while being thanked for their care of us all. China is currently in the lead having started first but Big Pharm is likely to win in the long run due to their much larger receipt of “thanks”. Death plus Thanks are on the score cards.

  15. Terry says:

    Matt says:
    June 10, 2021 at 5:25 pm
    ‘See also long COVID’

    Fuck off

  16. Richard says:

    Again, if you want to claim that there have been only 2 deaths from the Astra Zeneca Covid-19 vaccine – the 48-year old Coffs Harbour woman and now this 52-year old woman – then you have to explain what happened to the 55-year old Tamworth man who – as was widely reported in national media at the time – died of blood clots in the lung 8 days after receiving the AZ jab, despite not having a medical history of any clotting disorder or other co-morbidity, and was described as being “as fit as a fiddle”.

    If you are just going to ignore that death and say that it is “likely unrelated” without presenting any evidence, then it disgraces your credibility in my opinion, and leads to more questions about how many other cases might have been similarly “covered up”.

  17. Squirrel says:

    According to the people we are meant to trust, the entire eastern seaboard is at risk of a grisly and pitiful death because Bonnie and Clyde went on a rampage from Victoria, through country NSW, to take up a job (reportedly) in Queensland.

    Meanwhile, when another person with “underlying conditions” dies because they weren’t given a choice of vaccines it’s “nothing to see here”, “moving right along” and don’t worry, ‘cos we’re getting pretty good at treating this condition which we still don’t know enough about to avoid inflicting on at risk people in the first place.

    I seem to recall that the previous AZ-related death was downplayed as being connected with “underlying conditions” – which begs the bleeding obvious question – why give this vaccine to people with underlying conditions?

    The other fascinating detail released today was that 15 others are still in hospital, including in intensive care, due to the AZ vaccine.

    For those interested in overseas perspectives, this article from 11 May –

    https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/very-little-excuse-to-continue-to-use-astrazeneca-in-canada-infectious-diseases-specialist

  18. Matt says:

    Richard – issues with media reporting?
    The TGA report mentions the 55 year old from Tamworth, and a 78 year old from WA. That report is dated today, so unlikely to include this new case, which would bring it to 3 (but the 7 News report refers to only 20.

    Death following possible TTS

    The first death involved a 55-year-old-man from NSW who sadly died eight days after being vaccinated. The patient had blood clots in his lungs (pulmonary embolism) and evidence from a platelet functional assay suggesting antibodies that activate platelets in the blood (anti-PF4 antibodies). However, the patient did not have thrombocytopenia so did not meet the diagnostic criteria for TTS currently being used by the TGA and globally (outlined above).

    The expert group could not conclusively determine if the patient’s death was related to the vaccine, in particular because of the absence of thrombocytopenia. However, it advised that the current criteria for the diagnosis of TTS are likely to evolve as we find out more about this rare condition. If the case definition for TTS changes, this case will be re-evaluated at a later date.
    Death following multi-organ failure

    The other death considered by the Vaccine Safety Investigation Group was of a 78-year-old man from Western Australia who sadly died from multi-organ failure six days after receiving the AstraZeneca vaccine. The patient had signs of capillary leak, a condition which is often seen in critically ill patients. It is characterised by leakage of fluid from blood vessels into the surrounding tissues and results in swelling and a drop in blood pressure. This has a number of potential causes and can be the endpoint of serious illnesses like sepsis.

    https://www.tga.gov.au/periodic/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-safety-report-10-06-2021

  19. Captain Katzenjammer says:

    Multiple deaths from underlying causes – choose your catalyst, virus or antivirus.
    Virus is more effective for those over 70. Those under 70 may choose antivirus.

  20. egg_ says:

    The Mattard has the hide to show his face after predicting that Trump would get double pneumonia from the Couf?
    The hide of an elephant, obviously.

  21. egg_ says:

    Matt says:
    October 2, 2020 at 10:47 pm
    Next few days are going to be critical to see how badly or not Trump is affected (the fact that he is relatively asymptomatic now is meaningless – noting the FOX News is reporting now that he was exhibiting fatigue yesterday). The normal clinical course of COVID-19:

    Day 2–11 post-exposure (on average, day 5) – the patient develops onset of flu-like symptoms. These commonly include fever, headache, dry cough and myalgia (mainly back pain), nausea without emesis, abdominal discomfort with some diarrhoea, anorexia, anosmia and fatigue.

    Day 5 – The patient is likely to develop increasing shortness of breath due to bilateral viral pneumonia.

    Day 10 – A cytokine storm may occur in those with severe manifestations of SARS-CoV-2, leading to acute lung injury (previously known as acute respiratory disease syndrome [ARDS]) and multi-organ failure.

    Approximately 81% of patients experience mild symptoms, 14% have a severe disease requiring hospitalisation, and 5% of patients become ‘critical’.

  22. Dot says:

    See also long COVID

    Plenty of other viruses have a long post infection recovery phase.

    EBV, Chicken Pox, some influenza, etc.

  23. Timothy Neilson says:

    So our response has been significantly better than other countries which have seen a large increase deaths due to COVID.

    Are there countries which have had such a large increase? As I understood it, the places which have large numbers of deaths attributed to COVID (at least the first world ones) .have generally not had excess deaths greater than could be explained by normal statistical variability.

    As for our response being “significantly better”, our response has been a slapstick clown show of total buffoonery, the supposed “success” of which has depended entirely on having closed the borders. Exhibit A, Maximum Leader’s quarantine frolics. Ponder what our stats would have been like but for that border security-related failure.
    If, in addition to properly administered border closure, we’d just introduced proper precautions at aged care facilities (neglected by Maximum Leader even though the states were supposed to be in charge of COVID related matters, because he knew he could pin that one on ScoMo), hospitals and other places and situations where the vulnerable needed to go, there’d have been no need for any other curtailment of liberties.

  24. Matt says:

    Learn to read egg – it’s a description of the known course of the disease, with a pretty clear statement about how badly or not he would be affected, not a prediction that this would happen (noting at the end that 81% of patient experience mild symptoms):

    Next few days are going to be critical to see how badly or not Trump is affected (the fact that he is relatively asymptomatic now is meaningless – noting the FOX News is reporting now that he was exhibiting fatigue yesterday). The normal clinical course of COVID-19:

    That said, Trump clearly fell into the 19% with more severe symptoms, and recent reports certainly suggest that he did in fact have pneumonia:

    President Donald J. Trump was sicker with Covid-19 in October than publicly acknowledged at the time, with extremely depressed blood oxygen levels at one point and a lung problem associated with pneumonia caused by the coronavirus, according to four people familiar with his condition.

  25. Matt says:

    Tim – USA all cause mortality about 18% higher in 2020 than past 3 years, and the rate of 1000 deaths per 100,000 the highest since 1947.

  26. John Brumble says:

    Matt, you have no credibility.
    If it’s such a narrow inclusion criteria, maybe that has more to do with the outcome than the pedestrian-at-best response from incompetent bureaucrats like you?

  27. Matt says:

    John, I think CL was being a little disingenuous with his criteria of first-world, warm, largely uninhabited island continents? How many largely uninhabited island continents are there?
    Some of those factors are important, but they aren’t the only reasons that Australia has performed better than other countries – otherwise we could have dispensed with all of the restrictions that various states have imposed over the past 15 months, and just relied purely on our geography and climate.

  28. Charles Rasp says:

    Matt says:
    June 10, 2021 at 5:25 pm
    ………..
    See also long COVID

    Spectacular recoveries for “long Covid” with the ivermectin ++ cocktail apparently.
    Ivermectin was developed by Merck, is now off patent and very cheap, and is very effective against early COVID-19 causing viruses (Delta included).

    Good reason for Merck, cronies, and the medical establishment to refuse to support ivermectin as a COVID remedy is that they are developing new drugs not off-patent for COVID treatment = >>>$$$$
    https://twitter.com/BretWeinstein/status/1402647948371005441

  29. egg_ says:

    it’s a description of the known course of the disease

    A retard’s schadenboner – the link to the whole Trump thread is within the quote above.

    Donald Trump, Melania test positive to Covid” with Mattard posting up to 22 comments per page over three pages.

  30. egg_ says:

    Matt says:
    June 10, 2021 at 7:00 pm
    …I think…

    That’s yer problem, right there.

    Trying to pump up a fictitious “Zero Cases”, even on an island continent?
    Gotta be a PS retard.

  31. Matt says:

    And low and behold egg, Trump indeed did have COVID.

  32. egg_ says:

    Plenty more choice Mattard goodness in that thread – want to rerun the tape?

  33. Matt says:

    Fill your boots egg, you’ve obviously got nothing better to do with your time.

  34. egg_ says:

    22 comments per page speaks volumes, tard.

  35. C.L. says:

    How many largely uninhabited island continents are there?

    Only one.
    That was the point, Matt. You touted “our response” as “significantly better than other countries which have seen a large increase [in] deaths due to COVID.”

    That has nothing to do with response and everything to do with geology. Were it not for the debacles in our most densely populated (and densely governed) state, only 90 people would have died from this flu in this entire, massive country.

  36. ozman says:

    Back in March 2020, when this make-believe deadly virus was raising its propaganda head, the United Kingdom Advisory Committee on Dangerous Pathogens declared that COVID-19 was nothing of consequence. However, the government decided to comply with the dictates of WHO, Bill Gates & co. They are still doing so, but with the more deadly injections.

    Status of COVID-19
    As of 19 March 2020, COVID-19 is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious disease (HCID) in the UK….The Advisory Committee on Dangerous Pathogens (ACDP) is also of the opinion that COVID-19 should no longer be classified as an HCID.
    The World Health Organization (WHO) continues to consider COVID-19 as a Public Health Emergency of International Concern (PHEIC), therefore the need to have a national, coordinated response remains and this is being met by the government’s COVID-19 response.

    Morrison, Hunt and Kelly are traitors. The Victorian chicom agents Andrews, Sutton, Merlino, Foley, Weimar and their thug Cornelius also need to be taken to the gallows.

  37. Matt says:

    And yet CL other countries have also managed to do similar to Australia without the benefit of our geography and climate.

  38. JC says:

    Only one.

    Two, including Antarctica. 🙂

  39. Timothy Neilson says:

    Tim – USA all cause mortality about 18% higher in 2020 than past 3 years, and the rate of 1000 deaths per 100,000 the highest since 1947.

    This seems very much to depend on what figures are being used. Raw numbers of deaths divided by raw population gives somewhere about 890 per 100,000, which is only 1.19% higher than 2019 and is in line with a decade old trend of increases of about 1% per year.
    I know that “adjusted” figures are used for some purposes, but there’s got to be some prolific adjustment going on to get the results you’re referring to.

  40. Matt says:

    Where are you getting your raw figures from Tim?

  41. Albatross says:

    Matt says:
    June 10, 2021 at 7:52 pm
    Where are you getting your raw figures from Tim?

    Where’s your DOI you LARPing fucker?

  42. Timothy Neilson says:

    The data site is “knoema”. They quote raw stats.
    CDC, by contrast, publish “age adjusted” figures (whatever that means).

  43. Matt says:

    Thanks Tim – according to that site ‘In 2020, death rate for United States of America was 8.9 per 1,000 people.’ but the data sources is ‘ World Population Prospects 2019’ – so not sure about the data quality there. Unless you have a different source for their data?

  44. Dot says:

    Constant begging the question, double standards, a full court press of bullshit by Matt.

  45. Timothy Neilson says:

    Don’t know.
    I’d still take raw data over adjusted data.

  46. Professor Fred Lenin says:

    Meanwhile backin Faucs Wuhan Lab?
    Working on the next Bioattack.

  47. mh says:

    Swampy hiding behind ‘science’

    Townhall.com
    @townhallcom
    ·
    17h
    FAUCI: “If you are trying to get at me as a public health official and a scientist, you’re really attacking not only Dr. Anthony Fauci, you are attacking science.”

    https://twitter.com/townhallcom/status/1402681156953427973?s=20

  48. Matt says:

    Problem is Tim that your “knoema” data for 2020 isn’t raw data, at least not according to the source it links to.

    ‘The age-adjusted death rate increased by 15.9% in 2020.’
    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7014e1.htm?s_cid=mm7014e1_w

    If this is what you are referring to – it’s adjusting the death rate to account for changing age profiles over time, it’s not adjusting the actual death figures. The data that I reported above were crude rates (because I don’t have access to the underlying population/age data to do the age adjustments for a time series).

  49. Albatross says:

    Dot says:
    June 10, 2021 at 8:17 pm
    Constant begging the question, double standards, a full court press of bullshit by Matt.

    Matt at one point lied and said he had a PhD from MDHS. He refuses to post his DOI and has never mentioned it again. He’s liar, innumerate, an imbecile, and I assume fat (or at least skinny-fat).

  50. Rob MW says:

    So far a total of 3.3 m Astra Zeneca doses, with 48 cases of TTS (35 confirmed & 13 probable).
    – 31 discharged from hospital and are recovering, with some receiving ongoing outpatient medical care
    – 15 patients remain in hospital, including one who remains critically ill in intensive care
    – two people have died in hospital.

    Yeah, fuck that particular vaccine. Apparently, according to the experts, we are victims of our own success, that is of course, success that is modeled on making common sense look like the ethical and moral part of cannibalism.

    Did the ABC bother to survey the 48 cases with a medium to get the views of the 2 that have passed ?

  51. Rob MW says:

    Probability of clot from AZ vaccine: 0.000004
    Probability of death from AZ vaccine: 0.000001

    Lol….. if the same probabilities applied to being hit by a bus; why would 3.3 m Astra Zeneca vaxers volunteer to be hit by a bus ?

  52. Bruce Parr says:

    In our local nursing home, four resident died suddenly within a fortnight of getting the jab. None of them were on syringe drivers or were considered near death. This is unusual. Of course no autopsies were performed. Regional NSW.

  53. Chris M says:

    In our local nursing home, four resident died suddenly within a fortnight of getting the jab.

    Yes Bruce, TGA refers to more than 200 such cases in Australia that died shortly after Wuhan vaccine but claim not certain if connected.

  54. Richard says:

    @Matt the reason all-cause morbidity was up in US in 2020 was primarily because exuberant blacks began killing each other at higher rates. Please read Steve Sailer.

  55. Matt says:

    Richard, I assume you mean mortality and not morbidity?
    And this Steve Sailer:
    https://www.takimag.com/article/lets-be-over-and-done-in-21/

    The CDC attributes most of the excess deaths to COVID, but the government is likely understating the number of deaths caused by the pandemic.

    Hence the official count of 300,000 COVID deaths so far is likely an underestimate, with the real number being between 350,000 and 400,000. Moreover, with a lag of roughly 22 days between cases and deaths on average, tens of thousands more people who are presently infected can be expected to die over the next month.

    Sounds like he’s attributing most of the excess deaths to COVID?

  56. mh says:

    Channel Nein should abandon their reckless emergency-use vaxxxine campaign until Australia can get an idea on how many deaths and injuries are really occurring.

  57. Leo G says:

    Probability of clot from AZ vaccine: 0.000004
    Probability of death from AZ vaccine: 0.000001

    The risk of clotting from an mRNA vax is about 2%.
    However, the risk of post-mRNA vax serious clotting, as in cerebral venous thrombosis (CVT) or portal vein thrombosis (PVT), is very much lower. A recent Oxford study put that CVT risk at 6.4 per million, and the PVT risk at 12.5 per million.
    By comparison the incidence of CVT after symptomatic COVID-19 diagnosis was 42.8 per million, and of PVT after symptomatic COVID-19 diagnosis was 392.3 per million.
    Considering that most Australians are likely to be vaccinated regularly for the next several years, and even most of the unvaccinated are not likely to be diagnosed with symptomatic COVID, it appears to me that the vaccination poses a higher serious clotting risk than COVID-19 itself.

  58. Chris M says:

    The vaccine contains (or creates depending upon type) billions of spike proteins which are the toxin that triggers clotting. If it remains fully within the muscle you will likely be OK, at least in the short term. If / when the vaccine or the SP’s leak into the circulatory system the problems start.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up2Ej9t3xck

  59. Mark A says:

    Leo G says:
    June 10, 2021 at 11:09 pm

    Probability of clot from AZ vaccine: 0.000004
    Probability of death from AZ vaccine: 0.000001

    The risk of clotting from an mRNA vax is about 2%.

    That is bloody huge in my language.

  60. Figures says:

    If there’s such a thing as “long COVID” then, by definition, the vaccine can’t possibly work (because exposure to the virus *increases* vulnerability to it in the future rather than *decreases* vulnerability).

    Also, we know that, whatever the true rate of vaccine injuries is, it’s orders of magnitude greater than what we are told.

    If vaccines can cause headaches, they can cause chronic migraines.

    If they can cause a cough, they can cause respiratory distress ending up in hospital or death.

    If they can cause myalgia they can cause chronic fatigue or paralysis.

    If they can cause seizures they can cause epilepsy.

    Doctors and the Matts of this world are pathological liars who try and argue that, somehow, vaccines can cause lots and lots of minor forms of X but never ever a severe form of X. This is particularly astonishing given there is no strict definition of a “minor” vs a “severe” injury.

    They make it all up.

    All of it. Starting from the preposterous and impossible idea that viruses are dangerous.

    Whatever “minor” injury doctors admit occur because of vaccines you should extrapolate out to a more severe/longer duration version of said injury and ask yourself if you would risk that occurring. Because it does. A lot.

  61. Mango Man says:

    More people died of COVID in 2021 so far than in all of 2020. It’s a global issue, not a parochial one. (This is why new infections come via foreign travel.)
    Also: doctors do not, as a habit, “make it all up”. One or two people here seem to do that.

  62. Adam D says:

    Also: doctors do not, as a habit, “make it all up”. One or two people here seem to do that.

    I present for the defence – the timeline of the WHO and Dr Fauci, both of which contradicted themselves numerous times. The problem with doctors is they can never admit they don’t know because then they can not claim to be the smartest people alive.

  63. Bruce says:

    See also:

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/nearly-800-reports-of-heart-inflammation-after-covid-19-vaccination-in-us_3853032.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2021-06-10-2&est=wVShnOaZD%2FUTTODWgfKJIYg3W1k5EzIAHmqhpQ2FH81KGMYeO3IiqJw89hKayrNuCq%2Bz7A%3D%3D

    Quick excerpt:

    “Federal authorities have received over 800 reports of heart inflammation in people who received a COVID-19 vaccine, a health official said Thursday.

    The reports of myocarditis or pericarditis were submitted to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, a passive reporting system run jointly by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Food and Drug Administration, through May 31.

    The bulk of the reports described heart inflammation appearing after the second of two doses of either the Pfizer of Moderna vaccines, both of which utilize messenger RNA technology.

    Authorities stress that anybody can submit reports through the reporting system but authorities have already verified that 226 of the reports meet the CDC’s working case definition, Dr. Tom Shimabukuro, a deputy director at the agency, said during a presentation of the data. Followup and review are in progress for the rest.”

  64. Bruce says:

    @CL:

    “How many largely uninhabited island continents are there?

    Only one.”

    Two, if you count Antarctica. As, unlike the Arctic, all that ice and snow sits on a big blob of rock; complete with active volcanoes, steadily pumping Chlorine and other”interesting” gases into the atmosphere.

    Interesting place. It will all be a Chinese “protectorate” in less than a century.

  65. Mango Man says:

    Adam: If your doctor claims to be the smartest person alive I’d suggest you get another doctor. On the other hand, it would seem to me foolish to take medical advice from a US President/property speculator who actually claimed on many occasions to be the smartest person alive.

  66. Figures says:

    Adam: If your doctor claims to be the smartest person alive I’d suggest you get another doctor.

    Am I allowed to go and see a doctor that believes all/many/some vaccines are useless and dangerous?

    Of course not. The government de-registers any honest doctors. So doctors manage to be two seemingly incompatible things: Completely arrogant and brainwashed sheep.

    It’s funny how you can’t see how astonishingly stupid your position is. On the one hand you say “oh doctors don’t *actually* believe they are gods” but then you turn around and say “oh you have to blindly trust everything doctors say and don’t ever listen to the customers’s of doctors because they aren’t infallible the way doctors are”.

    Of course, you can’t see how stupid your position is because you’re stupid.

  67. Figures says:

    customers’s = customers

  68. Mango Man says:

    Figures: government de-registers honest doctors. Seriously? BTW, no one makes you go to a doctor or forces you to follow their advice. However, most of us who want medical advice tend to go to them of our own volition. Go figure!
    Feel free to wander about unvaccinated. No skin off my nose. But do not try to convince me you are the smartest person in the world.

  69. Leo G says:

    Federal authorities have received over 800 reports of heart inflammation in people who received a COVID-19 (mRNA) vaccine, a health official said Thursday.

    The Vaccine Safety Datalink is reporting a myocarditis/pericarditis incidence in a 21-day risk interval, for ages 16-39 years (data thru May 29, 2021), following the second dose of the Pfizer vaccine, at the rate of 10.4 per million doses from their surveillance system involving a number of health maintenance organisations which cover about 2% of the US population.
    This report poses a dilemma for the Australian government, who claim that the reason the Pfizer vax was preferred for younger Australians was its lower risk of serious side effects compared with the AstraZeneca vax.
    Was this the real reason for the switch- or was it a pretext?

  70. Kneel says:

    “Feel free to wander about unvaccinated. No skin off my nose.”

    That is as it should be – would that everyone had the same notion.

    Alas, GovCo is going down the “no back to normal until x% are vaxxed” where x is somewhere between 70 and 100 (seemingly dependent on how many “cases” have recently been discovered in any particular area).
    That’s coercion, pure and simple, which is illegal for an experimental medication (vax or treatment), which all the COVID vaccines are.

    They might get a better response if they said “We are going to open up back to normal on such-and-such-a-date. If you are not vaccinated by then, you may be at risk. There are enough vaccine doses available to fully vaccinate everyone who wants to be vaccinated. If you want to be vaccinated, please do so before such-and-such-a-date for best effect.” With “such-and-such-a-date” being sufficiently long that the vax can indeed be given to all who want it by that date (ie, the truth).

    That would give everyone a chance to get the vax if they want it, and give us all a date for when this ridiculous and damaging “lockdown” mind-set will end. It would also put peoples health choices in their own hands, where they belong.

  71. Terry says:

    Mango Man says:
    June 11, 2021 at 11:03 am
    ‘who actually claimed on many occasions to be the smartest person alive

    Going to need a link to a verifiable source.

  72. Terry says:

    ‘Feel free to wander about unvaccinated…’
    That’s mighty generous to allow someone, if they choose, not to inject themselves with a dangerous substance.

    A pity crime (against humanity) that our benevolent overlords are busy mandating passports to “incentivise” against such choices.

  73. gowest says:

    The medical “experts” must be worried. First there was the UK variant, now there is the Indian delta variant …They are already talking about booster shots… This is what they are hiding..
    Effectively, the people who have been vaccinated are those who society most needs to now adopt pre-exposure prophylactic protocols with the antiviral drug of their choice (ivermectin etc); they are the ones incubating and spreading deadly disease, not the unvaccinated.

    The longer we take leaky vaccinations the worse the mutations will be.

  74. Figures says:

    BTW, no one makes you go to a doctor or forces you to follow their advice.

    You utter cock.

    Parents are strong-armed in every way possible to get their children vaccinated and because so-called libertarians refused to stand with these parents a few years ago, now the whole population is about to be strong-armed into these even more dangerous COVID concoctions.

    And yes, they absolutely do de-register honest doctors. Doctors who have witnessed children having horrific vaccine reactions and therefore giving them medical exemptions. These doctors get de-registered such that all other doctors are too petrified to give them.

    Governments know perfectly well that their vaccine policies murder babies.

    They know and they don’t care. It’s bipartisan. Every politician loves it when babies are harmed by doctors. Most doctors love it too. And like I said, the few doctors that don’t, get de-registered.

    There are two kinds of people:

    People who aren’t scared of other people’s germs and people who are evil.

  75. Mak Siccar says:

    gowest says:
    June 11, 2021 at 1:41 pm
    The medical “experts” must be worried. First there was the UK variant, now there is the Indian delta variant ….

    But wait, there’s more! The Oz is reporting hysteria about the kappa variant!!! Clearly, the virus will eventually expire because it can’t mutate beyond the omega variant. 😂

  76. Mango Man says:

    Figures: Every politician loves it when babies are harmed by doctors. Most doctors love it too.
    Here you are, offering abuse and confirming that you are seriously in need of medical assistance! Sadly, the only doctors you like aren’t allowed to practice.

  77. Matt says:

    C’mon Mango, surely you can see that Figures has a unique insight into virology and vaccines that far exceeds that of the rest of us. How he’s not managing the pandemic response remains a mystery.

  78. Perfidious Albino says:

    It’s OK, the Kappa variant only afflicts tracksuit wearers…

  79. Albatross says:

    Matt says:
    June 11, 2021 at 6:31 pm

    Have you posted your DOI yet you lying slave? You’re not even bloody human mate – a parrot could stand in and nobody would notice.

  80. Albatross says:

    Perfidious Albino says:
    June 11, 2021 at 7:18 pm
    It’s OK, the Kappa variant only afflicts tracksuit wearers…

    What about Italians in loafers?

  81. mh says:

    Tucker: Most basic questions of civil liberties are in the balance

    ‘Tucker Carlson Tonight’ discusses push for young people to get the COVID-19 vaccine

    https://news.yahoo.com/tucker-most-basic-questions-civil-002338198.html

  82. Figures says:

    Figures has a unique insight into virology and vaccines that far exceeds that of the rest of us.

    As Orwell said, sometimes the hardest thing anybody can do is state the bleeding obvious when everybody else is delusional.

    When I was younger I asked a simple question:

    If sick people germs are so dangerous then why don’t doctors (and their patients) all drop dead a few moments after starting their jobs?

    This simple question was responded to with: Because SCIENCE!!! Shut up!!! Germs aren’t really dangerous, except that they are. Doctors are magical!!! Doctor offices are magical!!!

    Sensible answers? No. Just idiocy.

    Given I could see something so obvious but nobody else could proved that 99 per cent of the population was an abject moron. And virologists and doctors were especially stupid. Virologists and doctors don’t have consciousness or a soul which no doubt helps them deal with the fact they murder so many people.

  83. Matt says:

    Like I said, very unique insight.

  84. Albatross says:

    Matt says:
    June 12, 2021 at 6:51 am
    Like I said, very unique insight.

    Like I said, post your DOI you LARPing fucker.

  85. Xenophon says:

    Figures: 99 per cent of the population were an abject moron.

    A gift that keeps giving.

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