Trump Returns

MRS Biden’s “Love” jacket was not only a catty dig at a classier, younger and sweeter predecessor. It was two other, more illustrative, things: first, an own-goal advertisement of her own insincerity. Generally speaking, vengeful mockery of an innocent is not the best way to establish credentials for love. If the medium is the message, the Bidens just told the remaining part of the world not aware of it already that they’re loathsome phonies. Second – let this be thematic for all that follows – the jacket confirms that Democrats and the American left are as terrified as ever of Donald Trump and the political reality he represents. Still – poor Jill. She had to rock something to pry cameras away from 33 year-old Carrie Johnson – the “unelected pin-up” of Cornwall’s G7 derby, declares Tattler. Jill decided on obnoxious gall paired with 101 Dalmatians.

We think we’ve grown used to the pace of the early 21st century. We blog, tweet, comment and text because it makes us feel like what’s happening in the world is being marked; that culpability is registered. But this is an illusion – one being used against us. Today’s news cycle has become Lucille Ball’s conveyor belt. Like Lucy, we have no chance of keeping up. We are not supposed to keep up. Lies and truths whiz by to oblivion. After his return to the stage in Greenville, North Carolina, last Saturday, I stopped trying and counted Trump’s derailed chocolates instead. Quite the pile. He was always right about the origins of the China Flu, just as he was right about the Russia Hoax.

Historical told-you-sos don’t come any bigger. Joe Biden’s party and its media militants lied about a virus that has killed 3.5 million-plus. The symphonised absolution of Beijing for what happened in Wuhan is both holocaust and holocaust denial unfolding together in real time. Nothing like this has been seen since Stalin blamed kulaks for the Holodomor. Suddenly the Charlottesville “very fine people” invention, the Lafayette Park fiction, the Steele Dossier and two fake ‘impeachments’ look frivolous. But they were evil harbingers of what followed.

After Trump’s speech, nappies nether and noggin were put to the test as journalists angrily re-spat his name and fearfully re-girded their loins. He was back and his take on the biggest scandal in US history was unassailable. Not only did his enemies pay Russia for a forgery; they paid the Chinese Communist Party for COVID-19. Let that sink in. Nobody dares criticise the call for $10 trillion in reparations but just a few weeks ago Anthony Fauci was arrogantly stonewalling Rand Paul during a Senate hearing for “ranting again” about a lab leak and a designer pandemic. All that remains of his toppled statue is the chiselled smirk. For the Guardian, “hotly contested” is the new debunked. Facebook has scrambled to re-ban Trump for two more years. The New York underworld – which is to say, its above-ground Tammany machine – is attempting to engineer a prosecution. They’re all betting on Trump mattering for years to come. Their fear is that he won’t need Twitter to make that rarest of political cases: the one that speaks for itself. Or will it?

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118 Responses to Trump Returns

  1. cuckoo says:

    nappies nether and noggin

    A thing of beauty is a joy forever.

  2. candy says:

    Mrs Johnson’s frocks look a bit awful. Sloppy over-bright house frocks. Maybe it’s an environmental statement of some sort?
    Boris Johnson may think his wife sets the fashion as Kate Middleton does but Kate Middleton has much more style and low key glamour. A natural, as Mrs Trump is.

    Mrs Biden seems to approve of her husband touching up young girls, so the less said about that woman the better.

  3. m0nty says:

    You lot will never get over the fact that TFG lost fair and square, will you?

  4. Dot says:

    monty has conflated the respect and awe we are taught to have for democracy with honour and integrity.

    I will not drag the man, it’s idealism and I too are an idealist and a romantic.

    In US democracy, the following have happened:

    Operation Mockingbird
    MK Ultra
    Congress tried to impeach a President for getting a blowjob.
    Congress tried to impeach a President for having different policies to them.
    Rod Blagojevic sold Obama’s old seat
    Watergate…

    …and in Canada, the Opposition leader just got arrested for protesting.

    To declare an election was fraudulently stolen is unfathomable is just naive.

    Other western democracies have plenty of scandal and abuse of power/process too. UK and Australia have some real humdingers.

  5. m0nty says:

    Honour and integrity, Dot cries, about a President who secretly subpoenad his Senate opponents phone records on a partisan witchhunt, while bleating in public about Carter Page.

    It is always projection with you lot. Every accusation is a confession.

  6. Cynic of A says:

    Speaking to an intelligent, articulate woman the other night. Works in some sort of software company. Has done an overseas stint to work for the company.
    I do not know her personally, have no wish to, but she’s fun to play shoot-em-up video games with.
    Covid was in the chatter. I said Trump had the answer with Hydro etc. I said because he said it was OK, the luvvies insisted it wasnlt.
    “He’s a moron! A moron in so many ways!”
    I said I disagreed, and let’s move on. There were a couple of Americans in the team as well, and they said nothing. I suspect they did not agree either.
    It’s fascinating! Absolutely fascinating! A clearly intelligent person describes a successful businessman and President as a moron.
    How can this be?
    Perhaps their information is only derived from mainstream media, that’s the only reason I can think of.

  7. Primer says:

    Goodness me, the humiliation of it all. The US knows where the Don would be in the group.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/06/america-last-joe-biden-shuffles-alone-back-pack-g7-leaders-take-photo-queen-elizabeth-video/

    Shuffling dementia patient must be a front man for some sort of presidency by Democrat committee.

  8. OldOzzie says:

    m0nty says:
    June 12, 2021 at 10:17 am
    You lot will never get over the fact that TFG lost fair and square, will you?

    A.U.D.I.T. of Elections: Hot and Getting Hotter!

    A.U.D.I.T.: About Undermining Democrat-Implemented Theft (of elections)

    It’s not just Arizona and Georgia that are shining klieg lights on “election irregularities”! Over the past week, a total of 11 states have made election news. In addition, there are national newsmakers (including the Democrat-media complex dragging out the “big guns” to try to squelch any talk of election forensic audits). But before we get started with the summary of recent reports, this is a poignant reminder that the logic of the Hologram’s victory escapes most rational people. Certainly, no one in the Democrat-media complex has taken a stab at explaining this chart (courtesy of Tierney Real News):

    And Rasmussen Reports (one of the most accurate pollsters) reports that 51% of likely voters “believe that cheating impacted the 2020 election results” (up 4 percentage points from November!).

    Moving on to the “big enchilada”….

  9. Boambee John says:

    m0nty says:
    June 12, 2021 at 10:17 am
    You lot will never get over the fact that TFG lost fair and square, will you?

    If he had lost “fair and square”, we would have got over it long ago. That you are still pushing the Big Lie of no election fraud is another indicator of the fear pervading the so-called “progressive” fascist left. If there is nothing to hide, why all the near panic?

    Still, small mercies. You have abandoned Trouser Gate.

  10. Boambee John says:

    m0nty says:
    June 12, 2021 at 10:46 am
    Honour and integrity, Dot cries, about a President who secretly subpoenad his Senate opponents phone records

    O’Bambi, of course, would never have sicced the bureaucracy on his political opponents, would h? Oh, sorry, wait ….

  11. Dot says:

    You have some real chutzpah to declare that a sitting President has no law enforcement powers but to pretend that the witch hunt against Carter Page was justified at all.

    You don’t care about the truth, only winning.

    You’ll even let pass Biden’s sickening public molestation of children.

  12. Dunnybrush says:

    Shrewd observation about there now being so much information about everything that truth is now subjective. When you can convince the population that nothing they believe is verifiable, you can achieve much. Men are women/ the world is warming when it isn’t/ you can kill a great city even though nobody has died of Rona in nine months (and almost nobody has even been hospitalised).

  13. OldOzzie says:

    Dot says:
    June 12, 2021 at 11:25 am

    You’ll even let pass Biden’s sickening public molestation of children.

    plus

    Creepy Joe Biden Can’t Keep His Paws Off of Boris Johnson’s Young Wife

  14. mareeS says:

    Munster needs some oxygen starvation here. I am developing arthritis in my hand scrolling over his inanities, same with Bob the numbers person. The two least entertaining duds on blogs, but they seem to be everywhere.

  15. Marley McScruffin says:

    Americans all voted for Jill Biden to be President, so she has every right to foist her opinions upon the World’s leaders.

  16. Terry says:

    ‘developing arthritis in…hand’
    M0ntifa afflicted by same, just a very different cause.
    #donuticingisnotalubricant

  17. m0nty says:

    When do you lot think TFG gets parachuted into the White House again? August? LOL.

  18. Daily llama says:

    WHY SOCIALISM FAILS
    I admit this is a bit off topic, but since people are discussing truth and farce, I’ll post it here.
    I’ve been in Victoria for 4 weeks today. The first 2 weeks, in the Melbourne CBD. This was just prior to the latest kerfuffle. So the plague may have been in the air while I lurked around Chinatown.
    Then the last 2 weeks I’ve been in NE Victoria. Pretty much on my own, but one does shop, eat out etc.,
    Responding to the endless panic stricken squeals that our entire civilisation may disintegrate due to Covid, I gamely ventured into the nearest regional centre where the hospital does drive through testing.
    As my car was in an angle in the driveway behind several other cars, the staff saw my interstate number plate.
    A nice guy came over, asked me how I was going, and pointed out that if I didn’t think I had the plague and was from interstate, they weren’t funded to test me. Unbelievable! This is at a public hospital!
    So, I could a first class Typhoid Mary (thereby actually destroying our civilisation), but it doesn’t matter.
    If you all die, I guess you can blame me. It’ll give you something to post about on your way to oblivion. I’ll miss you.
    The medical guy and I then proceeded to discuss the dangerous medical effects of one of my rust removing pork vindaloos mixed with several gallons of full strength beer, and I drove away.

  19. Tom says:

    As CL observes, the left is still terrified of Trump. Look at the idiot antipodean troll soiling himself here. Trump owns the otherwise vacant space between his ears.

    They know what they did and no amount of propping up the Trojan horse fake 46th presidency will ever absolve them or give them legitimacy.

  20. Primer says:

    What happens if AZ, then PA + more results are “decertified”? The old, more votes than registered voters / Xeroxed ballots trick.
    Sure, Biden has no credibility but there’s no legal fix that’s obvious to me. SCOTUS already told the US that after Inauguration objections are moot.

  21. Boambee John says:

    m0nty says:
    June 12, 2021 at 11:57 am
    When do you lot think TFG gets parachuted into the White House again? August? LOL.

    He won’t be, but when the evidence can no longer be suppressed, then Creepy Joe and Kameltoe will be lame ducks, the way Nixon (one of your personal obsessions) eventually was.

  22. duncanm says:

    Cynic of A says:
    June 12, 2021 at 10:52 am
    ..
    A clearly intelligent person describes a successful businessman and President as a moron.

    I’ve had very similar discussions with what I thought were otherwise intelligent people.

    Even if you clearly separate their dislike of Trump from his intelligence for them, and point out all the successes in his life (business, media, politics), they can’t bring themselves to admit he might actually be a bit smart.

    Its baffling.. but the only conclusion I come to is that hatred trumps all.

  23. duncanm says:

    He was always right about the origins of the China Flu, just as he was right about the Russia Hoax.

    .. etc etc.

    I’ve come to the conclusion that Trump didn’t necessarily know the truth any more than previous incumbents, its just that not being part of the swamp, he was honest with the public.

  24. Boambee John says:

    munty

    And the next presidential election will be better organised and closely supervised. The DemonRats won’t be able to “fix” even the choice of the local dogcatcher.

    Speaker of the House Trump?

  25. m0nty says:

    They know what they did and no amount of propping up the Trojan horse fake 46th presidency will ever absolve them or give them legitimacy.

    Your concern trolling for our consciences is noted.

  26. Boambee John says:

    Your concern trolling for our consciences is noted.

    munty’s conscience still burns for whomever was the DemonRat beaten by Nixon in 1972.

    The recent open theft of an election has no effect on his conscience.

  27. Shy Ted says:

    I do want Trump to come back but I’d like the lights to go out first. When they do, they have and they will increasingly, we’re not monitored by CCTV everywhere, it’s a perfect time for real reparations against the traitors in our institutions, Stairman Dan style.

  28. Terry says:

    m0nty says:
    June 12, 2021 at 12:33 pm
    ‘Your concern trolling for our consciences is noted.’

    As is your projection.
    Everybody sees you M0ntifa.

  29. Richard says:

    Dot says:
    June 12, 2021 at 10:28 am

    Other western democracies have plenty of scandal and abuse of power/process too. UK and Australia have some real humdingers.

    Just wait until the MSN starts reporting on the Icook foods/Community Chef debacle in Victoria. Allegedly starring the local Dandenong council, Dan Andrews as former health minister, Sutton, Albanese, a fake slug, planting of evidence, doctoring video evidence, laying 90 plus charges and dismissing the the on call room steps, all for the purpose of the government taking control of a successful private enterprise.

    Abuse of power and corruption? You ain’t heard nothing yet.

  30. Seco says:

    You lot will never get over the fact that TFG lost fair and square, will you?

    Joe Biden – more votes in the history of US presidential elections. 😂

  31. Dot says:

    Shocking stuff Richard, for sure.

    Lawyer X didn’t wake them up, what will?

  32. dover_beach says:

    Monty has no conscience.

  33. dover_beach says:

    MRS Biden’s “Love” jacket was not only a catty dig at a classier, younger and sweeter predecessor. It was two other, more illustrative, things: first, an own-goal advertisement of her own insincerity. Generally speaking, vengeful mockery of an innocent is not the best way to establish credentials for love.

    Indeed. Not surprised that this recent marketing gimmick is grossly misunderstood and misrepresented.

  34. m0nty says:

    Hey db, since you are evidently a fashion expert, can you explain why the lesbian soft core model wore that jacket?

  35. Chris M says:

    What happens if AZ, then PA + more results are “decertified”?… Sure, Biden has no credibility but there’s no legal fix

    Rows of fences around the Whitehouse, ring of National Guard that sort of thing. Make an example of anyone who dares mount even a minor challenge, persecute them to the max.

    But I think this situation is already in place with a certified election?

  36. Seco says:

    You’ll even let pass Biden’s sickening public molestation of children.

    Remember when Monty went after the Labor Party for all the rock spiders in their ranks?

  37. Boambee John says:

    m0nty says:
    June 12, 2021 at 1:52 pm
    Hey db, since you are evidently a fashion expert, can you explain why the lesbian soft core model wore that jacket?

    That’s a very harsh description of Dr Jill. How dare you!

  38. Boambee John says:

    Seco says:
    June 12, 2021 at 2:20 pm
    You’ll even let pass Biden’s sickening public molestation of children.

    Remember when Monty went after the Labor Party for all the rock spiders in their ranks?

    Remind me, I might have been in the toilet at the time.

  39. Makka says:

    mOron is a well known and avid supporter of the kiddie groper in the WH. What’s appalling is that he’s allowed to get on here and cheer the pervert on.

    Our mOron, a real class act.

  40. Richard says:

    Dot says:
    June 12, 2021 at 1:35 pm
    Shocking stuff Richard, for sure.

    Lawyer X didn’t wake them up, what will?

    Wow, you know I forgot about that already and that was a complete indictment on their whole legal process. Perhaps there’s nothing that can be done? Here’s another – George Pell who was convicted upon no physical evidence and dubious circumstantial evidence in the Victorian judicial system had to take it to the High Court to get is conviction overturned.
    All while the MSM actively campaigned against him.

    Sometimes I wonder if any real positive change can be achieved?

  41. Rt41Rebel says:

    “But I think this situation is already in place with a certified election?”

    Yes. The electorates have been sent and certified, no matter what election audits uncover, there’s no constitutional remedy.

    If you love a juicy plot, there is talk that Trump could run for the House in my very conservative FL district in 2022, become Speaker, and impeach Biden and then Harris, provided the 2022 election is a red wave in the Senate, and ascend to POTUS before 2024.

  42. Catfeesh? says:

    @auditwarroom is worth following. I don’t know what will come of it eventually, but 11 states have had delegations go through the Maricopa audit room.

  43. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “m0nty says:
    June 12, 2021 at 1:52 pm
    Hey db, since you are evidently a fashion expert, can you explain why the lesbian soft core model wore that jacket
    ?”

    Munchy, that’s no way to describe your partner.

  44. Frank says:

    Munchy, that’s no way to describe your partner.

    Mail order?

  45. Xenophon says:

    The Trump illusion lives on and on. Very hard to empathise with people who are still buying anything he’s selling. (But if you’re buying I have a harbour bridge going cheap!)

  46. Rex Anger says:

    The Trump illusion lives on and on

    What illusion, anklebiter?

    The one your low-energy co-ideologists keep trying to weave about their legitimacy and mandate to unaccountably rule over everythijgntbey see in perpetuity?

    Every attempt to propagandise and vilify the man and anyone who dares to agree with him into a corner, has failed.

  47. Lucy Zubova says:

    To be honest, I don’t want to see Donald Trump back in the White House. I think he’s much freer and more effective outside of it. I’d like to see Ron de Santis on the ballot, perhaps joined by Vernon Jones or Elise Stefanik. Really, who are the Democrats going to put up? It’s not like Biden will endure and Harris’ performance has been so woeful, I cringe. And their other leading lights have zero appeal to the all-important centre.

    No, make him Speaker of the House and enjoy the fireworks. Let younger men follow the trail he blazed.

  48. Terry says:

    There is no path for Trump from the 2020 election to the Whitehouse.

    The corrupt election was certified and “legitimised” – there is no constitutional remedy for it.

    But then, I am fine with Trump resuming normal service from 20 Jan 2025.

    What the audits, and the eventual realisation that the 2020 election was indeed fraudulent, means is that the voting protocols for 2024 (and 2022 for that matter) will be severely tightened in many states (particularly those with poor track records from 2020), thus restricting the path available for the fraudsters to conduct a second coup.

    This is happening now. Audits, primaries (removal of swamp RINOs), elections (removal of corrupt Democrats). They will need to double-down and expose even more of their corruption to steal again (no, I still don’t put it past them – they will try).

    It is not certain that Democrats will be able to successfully call on their two biggest demographics (the voting dead and xerox machines) to save them from a second Trump term.

    And do you think Trump is going to take the non-nuclear option this time?

    Get into popcorn futures now. He’s going to raze the joint.

  49. Chris M says:

    I am fine with Trump resuming normal service from 20 Jan 2025.

    I doubt you are Terry.

    You think the country is going to drift downhill economically and militarily whilst spending trillions with massive stagflation for another 3.5 years after the fraud is exposed? You happy with a broke degraded husk remaining? And how will Trumps health be in 2025? If the voters sit on their hands and do nothing after proven fraud at least admit and own the 3rd world political and judicial status and never again quote things like 2A, rule of law, blue line and crap like that.

  50. Terry says:

    ‘And how will Trumps health be in 2025?’
    Is my major concern.

    The rest is recoverable. I also expect resistance at State level (led by Texas and Florida) and a hostile House and Senate from 2022.

    Of course, I would like Trump to get back to work immediately, but other than a convoluted longshot path through House Speaker followed by impeachments (which would necessarily be post-22 anyway), there is no other way.

  51. Mango Man says:

    Folks, can you give the election stuff a break? Trump lost. He had ample opportunity to provide evidence of any wrongdoing and he produced zip. Instead he promoted an attack on the Capitol. He’s spent his life doing crooked deals, avoiding his debts and generally greasing around the low life end of property markets. The man’s a dud and all this banging on is both banal and demeaning. We are in Australia, after all.

  52. Rex Anger says:

    We are in Australia, after all.

    And yet, you just produced the American Democrat Party’s entire MSM propaganda platform verbatim, anklebiter.

    Shill for your leftard ‘friends’ and paymasters somewhere else.

  53. Cassie of Sydney says:

    “Lucy Zubova says:
    June 12, 2021 at 5:28 pm”

    Agree Lucy.

  54. Chris M says:

    We are in Australia, after all.

    At this critical point globally if there is a fake president who is friends with Communists is just as important for Australia’s national security as it is for the USA Mr fruit. It cannot be allowed to stand once fully exposed.

  55. Boambee John says:

    Mungo Man

    Instead he promoted an attack on the Capitol.

    By telling his supporters to protest peacefully? Are you another unarmed “insurrection” nitwit?

  56. dover_beach says:

    He had ample opportunity to provide evidence of any wrongdoing and he produced zip.

    The Cathedral never allowed any of the substantive causes of action to get past, Go (I.e. GA, MI, and PA). And those that did they stretched the meaning of terms to the point of absurdity (I.e AZ and WI).

  57. Oh come on says:

    The irony of m0nty’s position is that, despite four years of bleating about the walls closing in on Trump and so on, it only took a couple of months for the walls to really be closing in on senile Biden, hapless Kamala, the pathological liar Fraudci and the rest of the utterly hopeless losers attempting to hold the WH together whilst everything they’ve wrought in the name of ridding themselves of Trump fails catastrophically around them.

    This is not how you rid yourselves of Trump. This is how you get a second term of Trump in 2024 and a congressional majority that will allow him to cement his legacy for generations.

  58. Oh come on says:

    Something else to consider – when Trump took over in 2017, most of his people were DC neophytes, so…sure. It was a bit shaky for a few months.

    However, the Biden regime’s people are predominantly DC veterans – WH veterans, even. Obama alumni. Their embarrassing incompetence cannot be chalked up to inexperience; there is no reasonable expectation that they will improve. Nope! This is as good as it gets.

  59. Paul says:

    The return of the Donald is inevitable …. the lying DemoRats have exposed themselves to the World … So long leftards !

  60. Terry Pedersen says:

    The two least entertaining duds on blogs

    MareeS and Bar Beach Swimmer.

  61. Rex Anger says:

    Poor Grigory.

    Jealous he and his sock drawer weren’t included…

  62. m0nty says:

    It is highly pleasing that you lot have chosen to cling to this Lost Cause in the face of reality. Things are turning out largely as they did in Obama’s first term, where he also had to rebuild after a disastrous Republican term ended in disgrace. Cheating at the state level is your only hope now.

  63. Rex Anger says:

    Funny, that’s now how I remember the end of the Bush era and the rise of Amerika under Emperor Barry…

    But fascist revisionism in the name of Teh Cause has always been your game, hasn’t it Benito M0ntylini?

  64. MareeS and Bar Beach Swimmer.

    Always happy to see them hereabouts.

  65. m0nty says:

    It is somewhat peculiar that you lot dropped Dubbya like a hot spud after his obvious failures, straight into the Forgettery with him, yet you are sticking with a bloke proven to be even more of a drongo who got smashed after one term.

  66. Rex Anger says:

    If I recall correctly Benito M0ntylini, George W. Bush was defeated on his own merits.

    Donald Trump had to have the election results manipulated against him in order to deliver you lot the outcome you so desperately desired.

    Just a terrible shame you lot were so ham-fisted and blatant about it, il Dunce. It’s almost like you lot all expected the entire ambit to fail anyway…

  67. Xenophon says:

    If it was true that the courts had a vendetta against Trump he’d be in jail. Fact us that judges he appointed rejected arguments s out the vote because they were infantile and lacked any factual basis. The interest Australians have in Trump is praying that he or His ilk never gets near the White House again. Yet here are many who didn’t their waking hours affixed to US fake news and blogs promoting the whining cause of a panhandler.

  68. Cardimona says:

    It’s almost like you lot all expected the entire ambit to fail anyway…

    Hence the Dems placing a cognitively-failing muppet into the White House – someone who can take the fall for the cathedral without loss to the organ grinders, someone too far gone to feel the pain that is coming his way.

    If they didn’t think there was a fair chance of being caught they’d have run their best operative, not one of their worst.

  69. Tel says:

    Cardimona, based on the Dem primaries … I’d say that Biden was the best they had.

    You have to accept that honest people like Tulsi Gabbard were ruled out by the internal party machinery … same as Ron Paul got scuttled by the Republican Party.

    After that it was a choice between dishonest socialist fruit loops (Bernie Sanders) or a curruptocrat like Biden who at least will be loyal to something, even if only his bank balance.

  70. bollux says:

    I am surprised so many on this blog try to trade blows with the likes of Monty. Remember, “you can’t argue with morons without becoming one and then they beat you with experience”. The bloke? truly has the thinking capability of a jellyfish so don’t give him anymore oxygen. Perhaps just enough to keep him alive and strapped to a wheelchair in nappies.

  71. Andre Lewis says:

    Going on a romantic weekend at a classy island resort and able to take whichever companion you want, Jill Biden or Melania Trump – how to choose?

  72. Mother Lode says:

    You don’t care about the truth, only winning.

    Only a vicarious winning at that.

    And a vicarious winning where the boosters have no control at that at that.

    Look at the people who supported Biden but have now discovered how easily they could be ejected – the gullible college students and graduates who thought Joe would intervene to forgive their college debts, or the unionised workers now seeing their projects shut down or jobs moved offshore.

    Having voted for obvious humbuggery they are playing all surprised and indignant. Sod them. People smarter and more circumspect than them are paying a price they never asked for.

  73. Dot says:

    Democracy, good and hard…

    Oh wait…😂

  74. Rex Anger says:

    The interest Australians have in Trump is praying that he or His ilk never gets near the White House again.

    I thought you were a Chinese troll, Grip…

  75. Rex Anger says:

    If it was true that the courts had a vendetta against Trump he’d be in jail. Fact us that judges he appointed rejected arguments s out the vote because they were infantile and lacked any factual basis

    Sigh…

    Time to break the stats out again:
    http://wiseenergy.org/Energy/Election/2020_Election_Cases.htm

    87 lawsuits called. 24 decided in favour of the GOP and Trump. 12 pending. And many of the dimissed cases dropped on dodgy technicalities like laches ormlack of standing.

    Furthermore, every actual partisan attempt to charge the man for something (basically Orange Man Bad, with some sop to the Criminal Justice process to make it look attractive to the cameras) has failed.

    It’s not the court system that has the vendetta, Grip. It’s stooges like you and your fellow fascists within the Establishments of Australia, Europe, the UK and USA. And China.

  76. Terry Pedersen says:

    If I recall correctly Benito M0ntylini, George W. Bush was defeated on his own merits.

    If I recall correctly (and I do), George W Bush was not defeated.

  77. Rex Anger says:

    If I recall correctly (and I do), George W Bush was not defeated

    Oh really, Grigory?

    Get your hand off it before you tear it right off, and we have to rename you Georgina…

  78. Tel says:

    George W Bush was not defeated

    I’m guessing you count the Afghan War as a tie then?

  79. C.L. says:

    George W. Bush won two terms as Governor of Texas and two terms as President.

    He was never defeated.

  80. JC says:

    Neither was Trump. Trump won.

  81. Rex Anger says:

    George W. Bush won two terms as Governor of Texas and two terms as President.

    He was never defeated.

    OK- Point well made. I had not been aware of the 2-term limit of US Presidencies at the time. I was barely into Uni at the time, and the world outside was of little interest to me…

    Who was Barry’s opponent for 2008? And should we be looking for evidence of Dem dodginess back then?

  82. Boambee John says:

    Rex A

    Who was Barry’s opponent for 2008? And should we be looking for evidence of Dem dodginess back then?

    John McBain. And Mittens in 2012, no need for dodginess on any large scale there.

  83. dover_beach says:

    If it was true that the courts had a vendetta against Trump he’d be in jail. Fact us that judges he appointed rejected arguments s out the vote because they were infantile and lacked any factual basis.

    You are a very stupid man.

  84. Xenophon says:

    Rex Anger: stats! Lies, dammed lies and stats…
    What I sought Rex was any actual legal support for the contention that Trump in fact won the election. There is none. You produced none. Judges appointed by Trump said so.
    The fascists in this bizarre narrative are those who want to overturn an election in favour of a lying crook who offers nothing kore than shouting and anger. And he’s not even Australian. .

  85. Dot says:

    What I sought Rex was any actual legal support for the contention that Trump in fact won the election. There is none.

    Oh right, so the 100,000 dead people voting in Wisconsin, they ACTUALLY ROSE FROM THE DEAD AND VOTED DEMOCRAT – AND THEY ALL LIVED IN THE SAME VACANT LOT?

    LOOOOOL

  86. Rex Anger says:

    What I sought Rex was any actual legal support for the contention that Trump in fact won the election. There is none. You produced none. Judges appointed by Trump said so.

    What was that dribble?

    Was it an actual troll point? Or a clumsy flinch?

  87. Matt says:

    Hard to take you seriously on politics after this embarrassing admission:

    I had not been aware of the 2-term limit of US Presidencies

    The lame excuse that you weren’t aware of it at the time doesn’t forgive that fact that you still thought it was true at June 13, 2021 at 12:40 am when you claimed that George W was defeated. Of course, given your drivel on pretty much every other topic, this is actually not a surprise. Goose.

  88. dover_beach says:

    Rex Anger: stats! Lies, dammed lies and stats…
    What I sought Rex was any actual legal support for the contention that Trump in fact won the election. There is none. You produced none. Judges appointed by Trump said so.

    LOL.

  89. Rex Anger says:

    The lame excuse that you weren’t aware of it at the time doesn’t forgive that fact that you still thought it was true at June 13, 2021 at 12:40 am when you claimed that George W was defeated. Of course, given your drivel on pretty much every other topic, this is actually not a surprise. Goose.

    At least I can admit to my mistakes, bugman.

  90. dover_beach says:

    In all those cases that were dismissed on legal grounds of standing, laches, or mootness, Xenophon seems to be under the mistaken impression that the judges surveyed the evidence, heard arguments, and then decided the case on factual grounds. This manifests an extraordinary level of ignorance.

  91. C.L. says:

    Matt, there are a few Bushes getting around and H.W. did lose in 1992.
    Easy mistake to make.

  92. Kneel says:

    “What I sought Rex was any actual legal support for the contention that Trump in fact won the election. There is none. You produced none. Judges appointed by Trump said so.”

    There is plenty, should you care to look. In most cases, as Rex(?) said, dumped before election because “no damage yet”, dumped afterwards because by the time it got to SCOTUS, “no remedy” (too late). IOW, they ducked it completely – they could have looked at the constitutionality, but were too afraid of the blowback from de-legitimising a sitting president and government. Disgusting cowards, if you ask me – do your freaking job, you get paid enough!

    So what is there, in terms of legal support?

    Unconstitutional (state) changes to election laws
    Breaches of state election laws by officials
    Illegal (federal) voting machines (way too many “can’t decide” ballots)

    The fixes for these is ongoing (eg, AZ election audit, GA and other state election law changes, etc).

    Nothing can be done about 2020 now, it is too late. However, 2022 and 2024 can be made a bit bullet resistant, instead of open to such ridiculous corruption.

    One good thing about the US system is “primaries”, where voters get to decide who is on the ticket for the party – but even here, Democrats with their “super-delegates” allow the swamp crowd to have who they want, not who the deplorables want. Not that that will matter too much come 2022/24 – many “liberals” (the centre-left) don’t like the extreme wokeness and will sit it out or even vote R to get rid of it. Witness the blowback in school boards.
    And MAGA R’s will get a pretty good primary run, and maybe even become dominant. It would be amusing to see them actually push back and ask for things that will make Dem heads explode. Eg, don’t just roll back gun legislation, ask for mandatory gun ownership and negotiate from there… Not that they need to do much in that respect anyway – IIRC, >15 (maybe 23?) states now have “constitutional carry”, meaning no permit required for concealed carry, just the “standard” federal background check and you’re good to go. And DJT judges have made CA’s “AR15 ‘assault weapon'” ban go the way of the dodo (as it should – these can be many things, including a .22 semi-auto, which is hardly a “weapon of war” now is it? “But they look scary….”)

    The big issue in my mind is: can the R’s get back control before the D’s destroy the economy completely? And even if they can, can they fix it before it collapses? Hope so, but fear not. Dems seem intent on “scorched earth” system – they’ll break it, lose, and then blame R’s for the collapse. MSM will of course help with narrative.
    Perhaps it is inevitable – on the 80 year cycle and no fix available except war. Hope springs eternal though…

  93. m0nty says:

    Oh right, so the 100,000 dead people voting in Wisconsin, they ACTUALLY ROSE FROM THE DEAD AND VOTED DEMOCRAT – AND THEY ALL LIVED IN THE SAME VACANT LOT?

    LOOOOOL

    None of that is true in the slightest, Dot. You are deep in the fever swamps.

  94. m0nty says:

    In all those cases that were dismissed on legal grounds of standing, laches, or mootness, Xenophon seems to be under the mistaken impression that the judges surveyed the evidence, heard arguments, and then decided the case on factual grounds. This manifests an extraordinary level of ignorance.

    Trump’s lawyers got their days in court, and they were shown to be completely incompetent. As a great man once said: stop whining!

  95. Tel says:

    … ACTUALLY ROSE FROM THE DEAD AND VOTED DEMOCRAT – AND THEY ALL LIVED IN THE SAME VACANT LOT …

    It happens … I blame the concrete contractor.

    I also blame the white van carrying boxes of votes at 3AM with multiple eye witnesses and security camera video to confirm it … but mostly the problem way shoddy concrete.

  96. dover_beach says:

    Trump’s lawyers got their days in court, and they were shown to be completely incompetent. As a great man once said: stop whining!

    No, they didn’t. I’m looking forward to the canvassing in AZ.

  97. Rex Anger says:

    None of that is true in the slightest, Dot

    Wisconsin’s Motor Vehicle Registries certainly begged to differ.

    Right up to the point where m0ntard’s co-ideologists started wiping records…

    Trump’s lawyers got their days in court, and they were shown to be completely incompetent

    17 successful findings out of the 24 that were actually heard (i.e. where bullshit excuses about mootness or laches weren’t trotted out) again proves you to be a liar, m0ntard…

  98. m0nty says:

    No, they didn’t.

    They couldn’t pass basic tests of law. Their cases were flimsier than their First Lady’s costumes for her lesbian photo spread. They failed miserably at every opportunity.

    No wonder real lawyers dropped the brief like a hot potato.

  99. dover_beach says:

    They couldn’t pass basic tests of law. Their cases were flimsier

    If this were true they would have allowed the case to be tried and humiliated the argument in full public view. Instead, they hide behind standing, laches, or mootness. BTW, I notice how you effortlessly moved from arguing, ‘They got their day in court’, to, ‘Their argument was so bad we didn’t even need to give them their day in court’.

  100. Rex Anger says:

    They failed miserably at every opportunity.

    I say again:

    17 successful findings out of the 24 that were actually heard (i.e. where bullshit excuses about mootness or laches weren’t trotted out) again proves you to be a liar, m0ntard…

  101. m0nty says:

    If this were true they would have allowed the case to be tried and humiliated the argument in full public view. Instead, they hide behind standing, laches, or mootness. BTW, I notice how you effortlessly moved from arguing, ‘They got their day in court’, to, ‘Their argument was so bad we didn’t even need to give them their day in court’.

    The objective of the court was not to humiliate GOP lawyers. They did a great job of that themselves. Their cases couldn’t withstand the most cursory of examinations.

    This talking point of yours boils down to “we woulda won if our cases weren’t built on tissue paper”. This is not a winning argument.

  102. dover_beach says:

    Their cases couldn’t withstand the most cursory of examinations.

    They weren’t given cursory examinations, nincompoop. Since their cases were dismissed on grounds of standing, mootness or laches, it had nothing to do with the evidence they were presenting. You appear to be incapable of recognizing this point.

  103. Rex Anger says:

    Their cases couldn’t withstand the most cursory of examinations.

    Third time. Maybe it will sink in:

    17 successful findings out of the 24 that were actually heard (i.e. where bullshit excuses about mootness or laches weren’t trotted out) again proves you to be a liar, m0ntard…

  104. m0nty says:

    Since their cases were dismissed on grounds of standing, mootness or laches, it had nothing to do with the evidence they were presenting.

    The reason they were dismissed on those grounds is that the officials in charge of the elections are supposed to be the ones overseeing elections, not random members of the public. Those officials, including many, many Republicans, certified all results. Republican officials declared it the most secure election ever.

    You can not accept those facts.

  105. Rex Anger says:

    The reason they were dismissed on those grounds is that the officials in charge of the elections are supposed to be the ones overseeing elections, not random members of the public.

    Incorrect.

    At the expense of potentially oversimplifying the definitions:

    Laches suggests that the case was brought too late.

    Standing is that the case was brought too soon.

    Mootness is that the Court’s ruling on the issue(s) in question would have no effect on the matter.

    Nothing at all to do with appealing to the authority of electoral officials versus ‘random members of the public.’ That’s your ignorance of both the matter and your ignorance of your Democrat-provided propaganda points.

    Trying to bash said propaganda points around some judges’ legalistic greaseweaselling just makes you look stupid.

    The Cat deserves a better class of troll…

  106. dover_beach says:

    The reason they were dismissed on those grounds is that the officials in charge of the elections are supposed to be the ones overseeing elections, not random members of the public. Those officials, including many, many Republicans, certified all results.

    This makes no sense. You’re now arguing that no election case/contest should ever see the light of a court room, whatever the point of law or fact, because only election officials oversee elections and what they certify is final. This is a new twist on: It’s not the votes that matter, but who counts the votes.

  107. Boambee John says:

    None of that is true in the slightest, Dot. You are deep in the fever swamps.

    The fat fascist fool munty will post unequivocal proof of this statement in 3 – 2 – 1 – …

  108. Boambee John says:

    dover_beach says:
    June 14, 2021 at 12:29 am
    Their cases couldn’t withstand the most cursory of examinations.

    They weren’t given cursory examinations, nincompoop. Since their cases were dismissed on grounds of standing, mootness or laches, it had nothing to do with the evidence they were presenting. You appear to be incapable of recognizing this point.

    The bolded words are redundant. munty is completely incapable.

  109. Boambee John says:

    Republican officials declared it the most secure election ever.

    Despite his long standing obsession with US politics, the fat fascist fool munty has never heard of RINOs and Republican “never Trumpers”. Idiot!

  110. m0nty says:

    This makes no sense. You’re now arguing that no election case/contest should ever see the light of a court room, whatever the point of law or fact, because only election officials oversee elections and what they certify is final. This is a new twist on: It’s not the votes that matter, but who counts the votes.

    No. The Republican Party had standing. Many of the lawsuits did not involve the party but represented individuals as plaintiffs, because the state party would not be involved in such a farce.

    When it is Republican officials who count and/or oversee the counting of votes, as it was in all cases, there is not much point whining to the courts about how the Republican Party got stiffed. They were embedded in the process, and in all cases participated in certifying the results.

  111. Boambee John says:

    Keep squirming fascist fool!

  112. Rex Anger says:

    Many of the lawsuits did not involve the party but represented individuals as plaintiffs, because the state party would not be involved in such a farce.

    So why were so many of the cases brought forward, brought forward by State Republican groups? On behalf of the President?

    And where State Law requires, individuals are identified for the purposes of filing records?

    How desperate are you to delegitimise the lawsuit process, because it is the hated Other who did it?

  113. m0nty says:

    Once again I ask my Reply Guy trolls to lift their game. Very low energy from you lot, disappointing really. I deserve better quality opponents.

  114. Rex Anger says:

    Once again I ask my Reply Guy trolls to lift their game. Very low energy from you lot, disappointing really. I deserve better quality opponents.

    Less projection from you please, greaseweasel.

    Prove your assertion it was only ‘private’ individuals bringing suits, rather than abyone or anything Republican linked.

    A list of some of the filings would do the job. Maybe with an additional modicum of research to identify the affiliations of any individuals named on said filings.

    Silence only proves your duplicity, fatman.

    GO!

  115. Boambee John says:

    m0nty says:
    June 14, 2021 at 12:00 pm
    Once again I ask my Reply Guy trolls to lift their game. Very low energy from you lot, disappointing really. I deserve better quality opponents.

    Our responses exceed your quality.

  116. dover_beach says:

    No. The Republican Party had standing. Many of the lawsuits did not involve the party but represented individuals as plaintiffs, because the state party would not be involved in such a farce.

    When it is Republican officials who count and/or oversee the counting of votes, as it was in all cases, there is not much point whining to the courts about how the Republican Party got stiffed. They were embedded in the process, and in all cases participated in certifying the results.

    Were Rs ’embedded’ in Philly? Detroit? Atlanta? Milwaukee? Did no R candidates or state party officials express concern about the conduct of the count in those election centres and initiate legal proceedings? You’re just making shit up, monty.

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