Hoxploitation: Vaccination nudgers seize on shindig numbers

The more instructive statistic: 30 out of the 30 are healthy and well.

I can report that of the more than 30 people that were at that party, 24 of those people are now positive for Covid-19. And not one of those 24 people were vaccinated. I could also advise that six health workers who attended at that party, who were fully vaccinated, not one of those people has been infected.”

– When a vaccinated person does contract it, I’m sure Brad Hazzard will tell us immediately

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71 Responses to Hoxploitation: Vaccination nudgers seize on shindig numbers

  1. mh says:

    I can report that of the more than 30 people that were at that party,

    So how many people were at this party?
    500 is also more than 30.

  2. Shy Ted says:

    Why, it’s almost as if they can make a person +ve or -ve at will. Could it be the actual tests? Could it be the number of PCR cycles? Check back on the vaxed in a few months.

  3. Baba says:

    Why has the vaccine status of the infectious Virgin flight attendant gone unreported?

  4. yarpos says:

    Gee if being vaccinated is such a talisman against evil, why on earth is Scomo isolating for two weeks ?

  5. a reader says:

    Why does the Government now get to dictate to people that they must get a rushed and not thoroughly tested drug? The sad part is by making that statement, morons will now consider me an anti-vaxxer

  6. mh says:

    This is reassuring:

    GP indemnity in AstraZeneca vaccine push
    Scott Morrison and national cabinet will offer indemnity to GPs for AZ shots to under 60s in a push to boost the vaccine rollout
    .

  7. Damon says:

    “morons will now consider me an anti-vaxxer”
    Console yourself. Many of them will suffer the unintended consequences.

  8. mh says:

    What Hazzard is trying to push is not even part of the narrative

    RT

    BBC journalist Andrew Marr says he caught a “nasty” bout of Covid-19 despite being fully vaccinated. Government advisers say this is normal, and similar cases are cropping up around the world.
    Speaking on his Sunday programme after a week off, Marr told viewers that “he had a bit of Covid last week, despite being double jabbed, and very nasty it was too.” Marr described his symptoms like those of a “summer cold,” and asked guest Professor Peter Horby, a government adviser on the coronavirus, whether he was “just unlucky” to catch the virus after being fully vaccinated.

    “I think you were,” Horby replied. Vaccines, he said, “are actually remarkably effective at preventing hospitalisations and deaths. They are less effective at preventing infection.”

  9. MatrixTransform says:

    I read last years NSW health document where they validated the testing machines against a known-good covid sample and came up with a Ct of 42.

    granted, I don’t exactly know how PRC does it’s magic but I do know that there’s a doubling.

    yah.
    2 ^ 42 = a very fucking large number

    there’s 8 billion pax on earth right?
    well this number is 500 times larger than that number

    its all bullshit people

  10. rickw says:

    Pure BS.

    These wankers have messed up big time, they’re now launching squirrels in all directions.

  11. Scott Osmond says:

    So Scotty and national cabinet if the not-vaccines are perfectly safe why do gp’s need indemnity?

  12. Leo G says:

    I could also advise that six health workers who attended at that party, who were fully vaccinated, not one of those people has been infected with (the coronavirus)

    NSW Health would be very concerned about the implications of vaccinated health care workers involved in a publicised “superspreader event”.
    The protocol for possible vaccine breakthrough infection in significant cases is to collect samples for genomic sequencing to identify the lineage of the infecting virus.
    A limitation is that the specimen needs to have a usable concentration of virions. The limitation has led to a requirement that an RT-PCR test positive result for the specimen required for sequencing must have an RT-PCR cycle threshold less than 29 cycles.
    The health workers would have been regarded as potential significant cases, for political reasons, even though they had no symptoms.
    It’s therefor quite possible that everyone at the event would have tested possible if all had been tested to the same standard.

  13. Leo G says:

    It’s therefor quite possible that everyone at the event would have tested positive if all had been tested to the same standard.

  14. mh says:

    Greg Reese
    The late Dr. Kary Mullis, the inventor of the PCR test, has been blowing the whistle on Fauci and big pharma for thirty years

    https://www.banned.video/watch?id=60a8280ab72e4b4268fa84ba

  15. Squirrel says:

    Interestingly, we have not been told what the six attendees who have tested negative have been vaccinated with – although “fully vaccinated” might be a clue.

    Likewise, none of the reports I could find about Andrew Marr mention which vaccine he had taken.

  16. Simon says:

    And all the ivermectin studies are too small to be enough evidence.

  17. ozman says:

    mh says:
    June 28, 2021 at 10:24 pm
    https://www.banned.video/watch?id=60a8280ab72e4b4268fa84ba

    Kary Mullis:

    The PCR, if you do it well, you can find almost anything in anybody. It starts making you believe in the Buddhist notion that everything is contained in everything else. If you can amplify a single molecule up to something you can measure–which PCR can do–there are very few molecules of which you do not have a single one of them in your body. That could be thought of as a misuse; to claim that it is meaningful.

    Which variant from A to Z ad infinitum do we need to find. Just name the number of amplifications permitted and it will be found. If 13’s not enough, how about 39? Or 51?

  18. m0nty says:

    Nice to see the Cat leading with its chin once again.

    All you lot have left is trooferism. No conspiracy is too outlandish for you.

  19. mh says:

    The fantasy football guy is here.

  20. Rex Anger says:

    All you lot have left is trooferism. No conspiracy is too outlandish for you.

    Says the fatman who honestly believes the common cold will kill him unless we unconditionally accept his lot’s Fascism…

  21. Matt says:

    granted, I don’t exactly know how PRC does it’s magic

    That’s pretty obvious.

  22. H B Bear says:

    Bad news punters, as Britons are firding out, there is no level of vaccination at which politicians and their public health bureaucrats will relinquish their level of control over the population.

  23. Mark M says:

    Same press conference, straight after Brad ‘health’ Hazzard made his China flu party announcement, Gladys says every one must continue wearing masks and socially distance even if you have had the jab, as you can still catch the plague and pass it on.

    These fools can’t even get their story straight.

    70% more infectious and travels at super sonic speed is not medically or scientifically backed, it is pure scaremongering.

    Like yelling fire in a crowded theatre.
    There is a law against that.

  24. flyingduk says:

    And this morning they announce that our wise medical masters have decided to mandate COVID Vax for aged care workers. I work in health, but not in aged care and I WILL NOT be complying with the obvious next step, extension to all health workers. This shits getting real.

  25. Dave of Reedy Creek, Qld says:

    I really think they missed the opening line of Hazzard’s report. Let me sub edit. Begins with “Once upon a time…” Do these people think we don’t follow real information of people dying and destroyed by this guinea pig vaccine? How come fully vaccinated people wear masks and have to be locked down with the serfs and peasants? Then there is the question of the “outbreaks” around school holidays every time. Once or twice, maybe but repeatedly, really???? When we make it to the next holidays, see if there is a “breach” at some facility.

  26. Mother Lode says:

    NSW superspreader party becomes case study in effectiveness of coronavirus vaccines.

    It is not a case study. It is an anecdote. They are seizing on it because in isolation it looks like is supports their case.

    If I looked at a case where people at a barbecue got food poisoning it would not be a case study for the theory that barbecues cause food poisoning.

  27. Figures says:

    As Leo G said, the number of cycles run for people that pathologists believe are likely to have the virus is much greater than the number of cycles they run for people that they don’t think will have the virus.

    That is how you get so-called “outbreaks” and why it can appear that the vaccines work.

    This is not new by the way. The number one characteristic of medicine all throughout history has been self-fulfilling prophecy.

    There were no more rats and fleas in the 14th century than there were in the 13th or 15th centuries. Rats and fleas had nothing to do with the Black Death. It was medical treatments, panic and murder that killed tens of millions of people.

    It was also medical treatments that killed tens of millions in the “Spanish Flu” (which was neither flu nor Spanish). Experimental vaccines (given predominantly to soldiers and their close contacts when they got home) and massive doses of aspirin were the culprits. That’s why the people who died were young adults (especially returning soldiers) – they got most of the vaccines.

  28. Up The Workers! says:

    I feel sorry for all the Nursing Home workers forced under threat of sacking, to submit themselves to poorly researched, shabbily tested, lucrative so-called “Vaccines” from “Big Pharma” that the Government itself has so little faith in, that it has gifted the rapacious manufacturers a full legal liability waiver for, and now has extended that waiver to all G.P.’s who wilfully inject it into their victims.

    If these “vaccines” are safe, then withdraw all the waivers and compulsorily inject the Directors and Senior Staff of the manufacturing firms with their own potions, and then compulsorily inject all Federal and State politicians and G.P.’s, to demonstrate precisely how “safe” they really are.

    No such problem if using Ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine, both of which are long-standing, tried and tested, safe and cheap products not known to kill those to whom it is given.

    For Nursing Home staff, it must be like standing in the queue waiting for the Zyklon B showers at Auschwitz. That was another fine Socialist Health Program.

  29. Tim says:

    So what if 24 people caught it! How many of them are in hospital? How many of them didnt even know they had it.

    Brad hazzard (good name for the jerk) how about telling the population how many are having complications from the vaccine. Deaths = ? Cases of blood clots =? etc How about some stats on the number of people that died in the 30days before having the vaccine pre covid and how many are dying now within the 30 day window after vaccine. Stats can tell you anything you want to know, its how you ask the question and how you take the sample data.

  30. mh says:

    Hazzard Warning would be a good header.

    I’m sure there will plenty more opportunities.

  31. MACK says:

    A UK study of a million people shows the risk of getting the “highly transmissible” virus from household members is just 10% if unvaccinated; 6% if vaccinated. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2107717

  32. Tim says:

    I feel sorry for all the Nursing Home workers forced under threat of sacking, to submit themselves to poorly researched, shabbily tested, lucrative so-called “Vaccines” from “Big Pharma” that the Government itself has so little faith in

    Now would be a good time for those health and aged care workers not wanting to have the vaccine to take some leave, all at once. A month would sort the issue out. I wont be having it, fortunately I dont work in health or aged care.

  33. Mother Lode says:

    Hazzard Warning would be a good header.

    And all the people offering holocausts of sheep and pouring libations upon the ground in praise to Brad are:

    The Dupes of Hazzard.

  34. MatrixTransform says:

    mUnty and Matt about to race each other to the bottom.

    a pair of aces

  35. gary says:

    Anyone over 50 should be vaccinated if they want to be, therefore they are as protected as they will ever be. If you are under 50 you have a very low risk of dying from COVID. So why not just treat Covid like the Cold or the flu – like they are doing now in Singapore. Being fixated on zero Covid cases is no longer a practical approach, because even with vaccines there will be Covid and people will die from Covid.

    In England now most people who die with Covid have been vaccinated.

  36. Davey Boy says:

    what’s wrong with youse all?? you MUST

    wear a mask or PEOPLW WILL DIE!!
    get vaccinated or PEEOPLE WIL DIE!!
    eliminate CO2 emissions or PEOPLE WILL DIE!!!
    Not talk about SameSExMarraige or PEOPLE WILL DIE!!!!,
    do what you’re told or PROPLE WILL DIE,!,!,!
    follow the Sceince or PEOPLE WILL DIE!,,,!!!!

    chicken tendies for those who earn enough goodboy points by following the roolz.

  37. mh says:

    Matt and mUnty – the Dupes of Hazzard

  38. Matt says:

    Someone posted this paper recently as evidence that there were significant safety concerns with the COVID vaccine.
    ‘The Safety of COVID-19 Vaccinations—We Should Rethink the Policy. Vaccines 2021, 9, 693’
    The journal has now issued an expression of concern, and it’s likely the paper will be retracted.

    The journal is issuing this expression of concern to alert readers to significant concerns regarding the paper cited above [1].
    Serious concerns have been raised about misinterpretation of the data and the conclusions.
    The major concern is the misrepresentation of the COVID-19 vaccination efforts and misrepresentation of the data, e.g., Abstract: “For three deaths prevented by vaccination we have to accept two > inflicted by vaccination”. Stating that these deaths linked to vaccination efforts is incorrect and distorted.
    We will provide an update following the conclusion of our investigation. The authors have been notified about this Expression of Concern.

    Be careful of the junk science that you try and use to support your claims.

  39. max says:

    Kary Mullis

    People believe these things, and a slew of others, not because they have seen proof but because they are ingenuous: they have faith.
    We live with an uncountable number of retroviruses. They’re everywhere—and they probably have been here as long as the human race. We have them in our genome. We get some of them from our mothers in the form of new viruses— infectious viral particles that can move from mother to fetus. We get others from both parents along with our genes. We have resident sequences in our genome that are retroviral. That means that we can and do make our own retroviral particles some of the time.

  40. Judge Dredd says:

    Yes, the media and elites are now turning on the unvaccinated as the “bad guys”. It was always going to be the case until we have to wear a yellow star.

  41. BM says:

    Be careful of the junk science that you try and use to support your claims.

    …you mean like using an anecdote of 30 people to draw a conclusion when there are millions of people around the world whose experiences are providing a contradictory outcome?

    Nice to see you agreeing wholeheartedly with the Cat for once!

  42. Matt says:

    Like using an anecdote of potential vaccine harm to draw conclusions when there are millions of people around the world whose experiences are providing a contradictory outcome.

    And the 30 case anecdote was never published as a scientific article.

  43. MatrixTransform says:

    I think Matt is going to use his horse to ante up

  44. Figures says:

    Like using an anecdote of potential vaccine harm to draw conclusions when there are millions of people around the world whose experiences are providing a contradictory outcome.

    How exactly do these millions of people do that?

    Firstly, just because there are millions of people with no ill effects, doesn’t mean that there aren’t plenty (perhaps millions) of people with ill effects.

    Secondly, you have no idea what these millions of people are going through. They could range from people with no ill effects whatsoever, to ill effects not quite sufficient to justify a hospital visit to ill effects that do justify medical intervention but the patient/doctor doesn’t or doesn’t want to blame the vaccine.

    For all you (or I) know, there could be *more* people with significant ill effects from the vaccine than without.

  45. BM says:

    And the 30 case anecdote was never published as a scientific article.

    Correct. So it shouldn’t be used by the government and media as proof of anything.

  46. Terry Andrews says:

    ABC RN today reported 50% of China-Fauci virus deaths in Britain last week had received the double jab

  47. Rob MW says:

    ABC RN today reported 50% of China-Fauci virus deaths in Britain last week had received the double jab

    Why most people who now die with Covid in England have had a vaccination

    It’s funny how imperfection works, maybe they try something really simple and super cheap, yet imperfect, you know, like Ivermectin.

  48. Amused says:

    Baba says:
    June 28, 2021 at 8:28 pm
    Why has the vaccine status of the infectious Virgin flight attendant gone unreported?

    In fact, all three (the two flight attendants and the quarantine hotel worker) were fully vaccinated.

  49. johnjjj says:

    Maybe I’ve got this wrong – so 24 people are now immune. If they didn’t get sick beyond a cold then it seems a cheap form of vaccination. No trip to the doctor, just have a party. The logic of all this is bewildering.

  50. Baa Humbug says:

    Scott Osmond says:
    June 28, 2021 at 10:03 pm

    So Scotty and national cabinet if the not-vaccines are perfectly safe why do gp’s need indemnity?

    I’d say the insurance companies refused to cover.

  51. Mother Lode says:

    Maybe I’ve got this wrong – so 24 people are now immune.

    Latest I have heard is that the vaccine does not stop you being infected, but stops you infecting others.

    So it seems that the vaccinated people were not infected by the non-vaccinated people. And the 6 who tested positive got it somewhere else but did not pass it on.

    Obedience is strength! Lockdowns deliver freedom!

  52. DavidHC says:

    Grand Final Brisbane October 2020

    30,000 unvaccinated attendees shoulder to shoulder seated in front of and behind each other yelling, spraying their mouthmist and saliva all over each other…

    No transmission.

    What’s going on?

  53. Frank says:

    Theodore Dalrymple made the point once about communist countries; the society ends once nobody has any faith in the public record. Sometimes one could be forgiven for thinking there is a concerted effort to seed the various noise machines with shit just to keep the pressure up. Clearly that would be delusional conspiracy mongering though.

  54. Warwick Morris says:

    There are currently 271 active Covid cases in Australia. Of those 58 are in hospital and 2 of those are in ICU. Presumable you only go into hospital if you are seriously ill and +20% seems like a fairly high number to me. I don’t know what flub stats look like.

  55. C.L. says:

    There are 271 known ‘cases.’
    There are probably thousands unknown.
    So nowhere near 20 percent.

  56. Mark M says:

    Barnaby Joyce fined $200 for not wearing a mask when getting petrol

    He should just say he was doing a press conference.

    Swirling COVID particles avoid politicians talking into a microphone without a mask.

  57. ozman says:

    Rob MW says:
    June 29, 2021 at 10:21 am
    Why most people who now die with Covid in England have had a vaccination

    The baldfaced gaslighting is typical (aimed at the gullible python and mattel toy types).

    It could sound worrying that the majority of people dying in England with the now-dominant Delta (B.1.617.2) variant have been vaccinated. Does this mean the vaccines are ineffective? Far from it, it’s what we would expect from an effective but imperfect vaccine….

    Either a vaccine is perfectly effective or it is perfectly ineffective. But not for the deluded. For the deluded an imperfect vaccine is an effective vaccine. Every troll believes this.

  58. mh says:

    Ozman, the Guardian receives funding from the Gates Foundation.

  59. ozman says:

    Barnaby Joyce fined $200 for not wearing a mask when getting petrol

    Will he contest it? There are ample grounds. Fake virus. Not filtrated. No evidence of contagion. Tests are not cases.

  60. ozman says:

    mh says:
    June 29, 2021 at 12:29 pm

    Ozman, the Guardian receives funding from the Gates Foundation.

    That explains everything.

  61. Indolent says:

    Presumable you only go into hospital if you are seriously ill and +20% seems like a fairly high number to me. I don’t know what flub stats look like.

    I’m sure someone said in the Open Forum that in Queensland everyone who is positive is sent to hospital as a better form of isolation.

  62. Leo G says:

    It could sound worrying that the majority of people dying in England with the now-dominant Delta (B.1.617.2) variant have been vaccinated.

    If vaccinated are 48.7% of the UK population, recovered infections 6.8%, then we should expect deaths of unvaccinated to exceed 55% of new cases.
    The suggestion is that vaccination may increase risk of death after infection.

  63. STJOHNOFGRAFTON says:

    Seizing on that shindig data is like desperately seizing on a sodden life preserver as the ship goes down.

  64. Lee says:

    Barnaby Joyce fined $200 for not wearing a mask when getting petrol

    I don’t wear a mask at all.
    And when I have been asked to put a mask on (which has happened twice) I reply quite truthfully that I am medically exempt, as they cause me great breathing difficulties, and I strongly suspect even higher than my normal high blood pressure, for which I am on medication.

  65. Chris M says:

    Why, it’s almost as if they can make a person +ve or -ve at will. Could it be the actual tests? Could it be the number of PCR cycles?

    CDC updated guidelines in the USA: for Breakthrough cases (already vaccinated, caught Covid) are not recorded as a +ve case unless a strong positive at not more than 25 PCR cycles AND show definite symptoms or are hospitalised. Otherwise they are not sick and good to go.

  66. Chris M says:

    CDC recommends that everyone 12 years of age and older get a COVID-19 vaccine as soon as they can.

    And yet for young people their US data shows a death rate FROM this vaccine more than 4x higher than that from Covid infection itself.

    Never mind, govt paid troll Matt will still defend it though…

  67. Matt says:

    govt paid

    I think the last time I was paid by the government I was in the Army, and that was a long time ago.

  68. Derp says:

    There are currently 271 active Covid cases in Australia. Of those 58 are in hospital and 2 of those are in ICU. Presumable you only go into hospital if you are seriously ill and +20% seems like a fairly high number to me. I don’t know what flub stats look like.

    There are 271 known ‘cases.’
    There are probably thousands unknown.
    So nowhere near 20 percent.

    Yep. And of the known cases ones that are in hospital, you don’t know any more details or how serious they are.

    My own anecdote; In Feb 2020, I got pneumonia. Rona was still fairly new but I got the test which confirmed I was clear of that. So I stayed home to rest and recover. I was at home for 4 weeks; sick as a dog, medicating, resting and a period working from home when I was bored out of my head. Halfway through that month, I was coughing so hard something popped. Super painful. The GP sent me to hospital where they confirmed I had broken two ribs (the attending doctor apologised for disbelieving it was even possible). They put me on serious painkillers and monitored my low blood oxygen for two nights. Then I was back home to see out the rest my recovery.

    So I spent less than 10% of my respiratory recovery in hospital. I got better at home, by myself. But that counts as a hospitalisation stat nevertheless. And if I’d had the rona, I would have been counted as one as well. There’s more detail in the stats that just the raw numbers.

  69. C.L. says:

    The GP sent me to hospital where they confirmed I had broken two ribs (the attending doctor apologised for disbelieving it was even possible).

    Must have been a very green doctor. Of course it’s possible to damage ribs by coughing. That’s pretty well known.

  70. Derp says:

    Must have been a very green doctor

    Yeah they were youngish. I just shrugged because I was pretty sure what the x-ray would show. Two surprised me though as I thought it was only one.

  71. Waz says:

    “There are 271 known ‘cases.’
    There are probably thousands unknown.
    So nowhere near 20 percent.”
    This reply to my earlier post is not borne out by any serology studies that I know of. It is someone’s speculation. There are literally hundred of studies on anitbodies in residual blood samples at labs that do not bare it out.

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